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Oscars change rules to "lessen bias towards old-school [2D] animation"
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I Stalk Alone
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Man, that was a good year I loved all three, pity on the winner though. I hope someone can do all the other years in images so we can see what the competition was.
It's easily the worst, most bullshit category. It's the "let's give Disney a prize" award. I find it utterly useless.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Thats a pretty apt comparison. No matter how many good handheld/animated products come out a year, you can bet your ass the most visible one will win no matter what.
ElBoxyBrown
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To win in this category:
1. Kids have to know about it.
and
2. It has to make a lot of money. More than your competition.
CONGRATS, YOU WON THE OSCAR FOR BEST ANIMATED FILM.
1. Kids have to know about it.
and
2. It has to make a lot of money. More than your competition.
CONGRATS, YOU WON THE OSCAR FOR BEST ANIMATED FILM.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Crimson_Echidna
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It wasn't even nominated, actually.
Infernostew
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Yeah. Was hoping they'd stop with the Disney shit and give Anomolisa an Oscar but no dice. Maybe whenever that new Wes Anderson stop motion film comes out they can gift it to him and retire the bloody category.
Fancyarcher
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So essentually "fuck indie animated films". They'll continue to treat animation as a low form of entertainment, basically. Serious academy!
Also they're now allowing film scores with more then three composers the chance to get nominated, (Zimmer & the remote control team have a better chance at getting nominated for certain scores), although the academy has never really enforced that rule well, since The Last Emperor won best original score, and that had three credited composers.
Also they're now allowing film scores with more then three composers the chance to get nominated, (Zimmer & the remote control team have a better chance at getting nominated for certain scores), although the academy has never really enforced that rule well, since The Last Emperor won best original score, and that had three credited composers.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Woops you're right. I totally thought it was
Is this about anime? It seems to be the predominant form of 2D animation by volume in America today from what I can tell. It's also associated with 2 groups that aren't very Hollywood, Trump/Alt-righters and socially non-norm people.
2D animation is a really time consuming artistic endeavor. There needs to more focus on it rather than less.
I'm not interested in 2D vs. "3D" CGI, since they can both be used for good and ill, and the definitions are quite interchangeable.
2D animation is a really time consuming artistic endeavor. There needs to more focus on it rather than less.
I'm not interested in 2D vs. "3D" CGI, since they can both be used for good and ill, and the definitions are quite interchangeable.
MetroidPrimeRib
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I think its more Disney/Pixar vs everyone else. Like with Laika films (Kubo and the Two Strings, Coraline) they dont get much either
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
the Paprika and tekkon pics hurt my soul. Masterful animaged movies
This is a good change
This is a good change
hosannainexcelsis
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Hardly exclusively. There's interesting 2D features coming out from places such as Ireland and France among other countries, as well as the whole category of stop-motion animation. If you look at Oscar nominations to this category in recent years there's actually been a good spectrum of nominees, even if the Disney film always wins in the end.
It's actually simpler than that. It's about big american companies putting out forgettable kids movies loosing to wonderful foreign films, particularly since the success of GKids. Instead of putting out better, more artistically creative films, they'd rather stifle the competition.
Can't have Finding Dory loosing to My Life as a Courgette or The Red Turtle.
It's kind of confusing, but this is actually a bad change for those type of movies. It's going to kill the chances foreign and non CGI films have of getting animated.
Thank God they're fixing it. I didn't quite think the deck was stacked against 2D animation after Your Name got snubbed so now I can rest easy.
The category's been a joke for the longest time anyway. It used to be a yearly Pixar award that's just being moved to being a yearly WD animation award. I mean I think I liked Brave more than most people but there's now way it even should have been a nominee let alone a winner.
The category's been a joke for the longest time anyway. It used to be a yearly Pixar award that's just being moved to being a yearly WD animation award. I mean I think I liked Brave more than most people but there's now way it even should have been a nominee let alone a winner.
They should just eliminate this category entirely. They give it to any piece of trash Disney/Pixar puts out, although at least Zootopia and Inside Out were pretty good movies the last 2 years but still didn't deserve to win compared to other animated films. Out of the films that won, Spirited Away and The Incredibles deserved their wins, possibly Toy Story 3. Any of the others?
ElBoxyBrown
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I actually didn't mind Zootopia winning. It handled it's subject matter on racism and police profiling better than most live-action movies.
hendersonhank
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The Red Turtle losing to Zootopia absolutely blew my mind.
lvl99 Pixel
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Mr Fox is a more substantial movie than Up though. I feel like people were won over by the prologue and not much else.
The Lego Movie was many things, but bland and standard are so absurdly inappropriate descriptions of that movie that it's almost as shocking as the Oscar's claim.
ElBoxyBrown
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Sunster
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what did it do that we haven't seen 100 times before?
I'll give you Boss Baby but Smurfs isn't performing well in the BO so doesn't count.
Boss Doggie
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Yes and No
There is definitely a bias towards 2D in certain circles and is actually a stigma as people claim CGI is cheap, but certainly not in the oscars.
Yes. Yes another person who thinks the same thing about Up like me!
Rango. Though I guess you mean strictly Disney/Pixar.
Honestly I feel Kung Fu Panda, its sequel, and How to Train Your Dragon deserve the oscar more than the winner in their regards too.
ElBoxyBrown
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Performing well at the BO does not guarantee good reviews. Your problems with The Lego Movie are your own personal opinions but many people were amazed that a movie starring Legos was well written and animated instead of being a lazy cash grab.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I do dislike certain of the reviews it gets, particularly RLM's one.
"It's a deconstruction of the Chosen One!"
Bull fucking shit. You know what movie actually did that? Zootopia.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
So big movie studios complaining that their expensive generic drivel isnt winning awards, gotcha.
The spin in that statement though, omg, thats some Trump administration level bullshit right there
The spin in that statement though, omg, thats some Trump administration level bullshit right there
The word "bias" is annoying like that.
You can be "biased against" something, meaning you show disfavor for something.
You can be "biased towards" something, meaning you show favor for something.
Bonen no Max'd
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Which doesn't make ANY FUCKING SENSE
A God damn shame since Summer Wars is my favorite movie of all time.
Bonen no Max'd
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Same! It made me angry to no end.
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