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[SomTervo]

This is a succinct expression of what I feel is wrong with a lot of sexual content in media in general, not just anime. There is so much expression of sexuality in these unrelated scenes for no reason other than to randomly titilate, yet an absolute failure when it comes to making genuine points about sexuality.

Anime can use sexual content to prove a valid point - for instance, in EVA there is one of those typical scenes where a male character falls on top of an undressed female character. But her lack of reaction from the female character in contrast with the extreme discomfort of the male character and the context, framing, and music of the scene make it very clear that this archetype of the submissive waifu that is so overplayed is actually very unhealthy. There are other examples of Anno subverting expectations of sexual scenes to demonstrate problems with the portrayal of women and the negative effects that unchecked societal archetypes have. Characters are designed to piss of a certain set of misogynists in order to elicit introspection, from the swapping of gender archetypes for Shinji/Asuka and Misato/Kaji to scenes clearly displaying and rejecting misogynist philosophy to the ending episodes clearly spelling out the psychological points to those who didn't grasp them. And yet, there are still random tit and ass shots that don't serve a purpose and kind of undermine the message whilst not really being justifiable under the Trojan Horse philosophy.

Damn straight.

Anno's mentor and close friend is also the man behind the [EDIT] "You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, ‘Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life. If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it. Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!" [DOUBLE EDIT] lmao it wasn't even Anno in the gif, I clearly shouldn't cite from memory gif and Anno predicts the death of anime is coming soon.

Here's a good analysis on the matter.

Brilliant.

 

[RedSwirl]

The nice thing is, if you were to hop into the AnimeGAF OT and ask if there's anime that fits your criteria you're likely to get a few recommendations that you'd really end up enjoying. For how much otaku or even just Japanese culture-centric anime there is, there's still a whole slew of great stuff that isn't like that. They may just be a small percentage of anime, however, in absolute numbers it's still a lot. It's actually ridiculously how many anime series there are. Just taking a look at MAL I've just randomly picked a very low rated show and it's ranked as low as (place) #7038.

Anime also simply does allow for a certain kind of shows that just wouldn't work in life action because you need the abstraction and stylization that animation provides you in order for e.g. strange creatures or supernatural effects to look just fine instead of completely out of place. This is actually very much so the case for most really good anime, they simply couldn't be done nearly as well in life action because they take advantage of their medium.

There probably is a lot of sort of "non-otaku" anime out there today (it's why noitaminA got started), it just feels like it's harder to find compared to the 90's or even the early 00's because it's not promoted as much. You have to dig deeper to find it, which most mainstream consumers won't do.

 

[Hatty]

Otaku culture is saved because Guts finally got off the damned boat after seven years

 

[Chmpocalypse]

I watched anime in the 90's and in the early 2000s when it blew up. There was plenty of adolescent trash released back then, but we tended to get only the better productions and the ones that appealed to adult sensibilities, for better or worse. I think as anime got bigger and the floodgates got opened, we got more of the everyday shlock that is mass produced for Japanese otaku, just piles and piles of garbage harem and moe shows, and we got fans who were more in tune with Japanese culture (relatively speaking) who set out to like anything that was popular in Japan solely because it was popular in Japan. Those people cheered on all the garbage of the last 10-15 years and probably prevented the medium from breaking through when we had a critical mass of artistically respectable productions that were gaining mainstream awareness back then.

Like others, I lost interest in it because of the fetishization of little girls (even when it is not sexual, there is a fixation on them as central characters that seems problematic to me, psychologically, for an adult to be into so much), the tropey-ness of the medium that makes TV sitcoms look incredibly varied by comparison, and just the overall lack of agency and respect for women. And unlike most any other medium there is just no real reflection on actual human life and relationships.

A big problem with these discussions is that, IMO, anime fans can't typically give accurate advice to non-otaku. Numerous times on GAF Ive been directed to an example of a strong female role that is laughable in reality, full of upskirts and shit, but she is a "bad girl" and assertive (or ADORABLY CLUMSY) and by otaku standards that is feminist. Women are barely more than squeaking objects in most anime, even "mature" ones that engage in no overt sexualization. It's like they are pulled out of some Victorian era drama, holding a parasol and gasping as an overly earnest anime hero declares their love. Is this reflective of Japanese society? I don't know. I know that otaku in Japan are notorious for not interacting well with normies, so maybe I should assume the general culture reflected in anime is just fucking wrong and toxic. It just seems like a MRA had some influence in how female characters should act in almost every anime I've seen.

I've had too many anime fans tell me a shitty show is good, because they love anime so much that they couldn't see that it was just another serving of their favorite tropes with slightly different window dressing. This a problem with enthusiasts of anything, where they overblow small details and differences in their own mind when in reality it is all much more similar than they can see.

The humor is usually god awful. It's sort of like memes, fans are laughing because it is a running gag in the medium, but isn't really funny. Is my sense of humor just simply different, not better than, someone who finds it hilarious to bodily fall over or get a nosebleed when a girl says something unintentionally sexual? No, I think I just have a better sense of humor.

Now someone with a little girl avatar can go ahead and tell me I pulled all of this out of my ass, and demand a list of the last 10 anime I watched.

This right here. The creepiness is bad, but far overwhelmed by the sheer amount of poorly-written nonsensical melodrama and "edgy" shit produced.

The elephant in the room is quality. Anime narratives are very, very often lacking in good stories with believable and engaging characters. Not all, but percentage-wise when it comes to meeting Western standards of quality it's worse than Western mass-produced stories. That's a big part of why people just aren't interested, especially in the last decade.

 

[BGBW]

This right here. The creepiness is bad, but far overwhelmed by the sheer amount of poorly-written nonsensical melodrama and "edgy" shit produced.

The elephant in the room is quality. Anime narratives are very, very often lacking in good stories with believable and engaging characters. Not all, but percentage-wise when it comes to meeting Western standards of quality it's worse than Western mass-produced stories. That's a big part of why people just aren't interested, especially in the last decade.

Well considering the subject is about comparing it to other geeky things; comic books, geeky shows like Star Trek and Star Wars, and videogames are not exactly known for high quality writing.

And considering the drivel of non geeky stuff on TV that is popular I don't think the mainstream really cares too much about the quality of the writing but rather if it will entertain them.

This is a world where Hollyoaks is celebrating 20 years being on the air.

 

[Taruranto]

Anno's mentor and close friend is also the man behind the [EDIT] "You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, ‘Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life. If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it. Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!" [DOUBLE EDIT] lmao it wasn't even Anno in the gif, I clearly shouldn't cite from memory gif and Anno predicts the death of anime is coming soon.

Here's a good analysis on the matter.

Anno was just mad his husbando Ikuhara didn't reciprocate.

 

[Not]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

 

[BGBW]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

So outside that list of four things everything else from the 100ish years of Japanese animation is just eh? I'm impressed you've managed to watch it all.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

Yamato 2199 is far from eh

That's one thing out of a list of like thousands

 

[Line_HTX]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

Really? Thre rest? No journey-type shows like Wolf's Rain or Mushishi? No cybercop crime drama like Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex?

 

[TwEE-N-Toast]

Well it's Not, he has a lady Wolverine avatar.. so ya know. Taste is subjective.

 

[Avixph]

Speaking of live action, Jellyfish Princess has a pretty great looking LA adaptation that's a nice in-between of j-drama and anime that'd be a nice compromise for non-fans of anime:

I'm still waiting on the second season.

 

[Trojita]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

Someone has watched/read Hunter x Hunter.

 

[dity]

You might want to check out Wandering Son a.k.a hourou musuko if you want to see anime that focus on lgbt.

I have, great series.

I just wish that ensemble shows would feature open LGBT folks (that aren't obvious fetish bait). At least with a lot of western media I can do this.

I was going to come in and say that's the only anime out of the hundreds I've seen that tried. Big emphasise on the "tried". The assumptions made in the show at times were pretty not good.

I don't think there's a lot of western media that non-fetishizes LGBT, but there's a hell of a lot more than Japanese media. I caught an anime recently on Hulu recently when it autoloads after you finish a series, it was called "Shimoneta", and within the first half of the episode it had a masculine character be shamed for wearing a bra and panties under his clothing. It was "gross" and everyone on the bus threw up. The show didn't exactly seem high brow, but it was incredibly how out of its way it went for that particular part. Western media is more low-key passive aggressive toward LGBT, but Japanese media like anime can be pretty direct.

*edit: I found the scene in question.

 

[Not]

Well it's Not, he has a lady Wolverine avatar.. so ya know. Taste is subjective.

Oh, I'll fight you

Spoiler

Yeah, most anime is not for me. Not trying to dis people who love it though

Someone has watched/read Hunter x Hunter.

I haaaaaaaaven't. The length is scaring me away. Is it anime tropey? I gave Gurren Lagann a shot and couldn't stomach it, even with the cool visuals.

 

[Crash Station]

Oh, I'll fight you

Spoiler

Yeah, most anime is not for me. Not trying to dis people who love it though

I mean based on what you listed, it's likely you'd find a lot to like. Liking DBZ alone opens you up to what is one of the dominant genres in the medium.

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

lmao and now this is an amusing post, here are the 3 anime(and some movies) that are worth watching, and one is fucking Dragon Ball Z.

but seriously go watch Hunter x Hunter.

 

[Not]

Really? Thre rest? No journey-type shows like Wolf's Rain or Mushishi? No cybercop crime drama like Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex?

You got me with Ghost In the Shell from '96. Completely next level stuff. That movie alone, however.

lmao and now this is an amusing post, here are the 3 anime(and some movies) that are worth watching, and one is fucking Dragon Ball Z.

but seriously go watch Hunter x Hunter.

Did everyone miss the "from a nostalgic standpoint" thing

 

[dity]

The responses to Not are kind of what I meant about that desperation recommendation thing anime fans do that I mentioned on that other page (however many pages back that was I dunno).

 

[Crash Station]

I haaaaaaaaven't. The length is scaring me away. Is it anime tropey? I gave Gurren Lagann a shot and couldn't stomach it, even with the cool visuals.

If you didn't watch to episode 11, you didn't give Gurren Lagann a shot.

And HxH subverts shounen tropes. There's no fanservice though (well there is, but not the normal kind).

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

I haaaaaaaaven't. The length is scaring me away. Is it anime tropey? I gave Gurren Lagann a shot and couldn't stomach it, even with the cool visuals.

Fuck Gurren Lagann(even if as cosmic said, watch until ep 11 at least), just watch Hunter x Hunter and love it.

 

[Crash Station]

The responses to Not are kind of what I meant about that desperation recommendation thing anime fans do that I mentioned on that other page (however many pages back that was I dunno).

Every single fanbase does this though. I've heard "oh, you don't like x medium, you should try y" almost verbatim in reference to every medium.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

The responses to Not are kind of what I meant about that desperation recommendation thing anime fans do that I mentioned on that other page (however many pages back that was I dunno).

The Dark Knight is pretty cool.

I liked watching Avatar.

Back to the Future is alright from a nostalgia perspective.

But otherwise movies are ehh.

 

[dity]

Every single fanbase does this though. I've heard "oh, you don't like x medium, you should try y" almost verbatim in reference to every medium.

People are responding in seeming offence to the "but otherwise anime is ehh" part and seem offended by it, despite it just being Not's opinion. See hosannainexcelsis' response above.

 

[Hattori]

I was going to come in and say that's the only anime out of the hundreds I've seen that tried. Big emphasise on the "tried". The assumptions made in the show at times were pretty not good.

I don't think there's a lot of western media that non-fetishizes LGBT, but there's a hell of a lot more than Japanese media. I caught an anime recently on Hulu recently when it autoloads after you finish a series, it was called "Shimoneta", and within the first half of the episode it had a masculine character be shamed for wearing a bra and panties under his clothing. It was "gross" and everyone on the bus threw up. The show didn't exactly seem high brow, but it was incredibly how out of its way it went for that particular part. Western media is more low-key passive aggressive toward LGBT, but Japanese media like anime can be pretty direct.

*edit: I found the scene in question.

Check out Paradise Kiss, it's not exactly an LGBT focused show but it has a very nice portrayal of an LGBT character (at least from what I can recall.)

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

People are responding in seeming offence to the "but otherwise anime is ehh" part and seem offended by it, despite it just being Not's opinion. See hosannainexcelsis' response above.

come on, the "everything else is ehh" in every medium is an ignorant thing to say and it's perfectly fine to call someone out over it.

You don't mention 4 movies/books/videogames and say everything else is ehh and expect everyone else to stay quiet about it.

 

[Not]

The Dark Knight is pretty cool.

I liked watching Avatar.

Back to the Future is alright from a nostalgia perspective.

But otherwise movies are ehh.

Funny thing is Back to the Future is by far the best out of all of those, and it's the DBZ equivalent in this scenario

 

[Crash Station]

People are responding in seeming offence to the "but otherwise anime is ehh" part and seem offended by it, despite it just being Not's opinion. See hosannainexcelsis' response above.

That's how you're interpreting it and is not necessarily true.

And even if it is, the "why don't you like what I like" sentiment is not limited to anime. I've gotten it much harder from fans of certain game genres than anything else.

 

[dity]

come on, the "everything else is ehh" in every medium is an ignorant thing to say and it's perfectly fine to call someone out over it.

You don't mention 4 movies/books/videogames and say everything else is ehh and expect everyone else to stay quiet about it.

Someone doesn't need to be "called out" for only liking 4 (well, 3 and 1 person's collective works) things, gosh. It's not "ignorant", it's just how they feel. They didn't even pin the rest of anime with anything, they just said "ehhh." Maybe the list will expand and less things will become "ehh", but I doubt it'll be from people jumping on them for not liking what they like in their list.

That's how you're interpreting it and is not necessarily true.

And even if it is, the "why don't you like what I like" sentiment is not limited to anime. I've gotten it much harder from fans of certain game genres than anything else.

It seems pretty true.

And it doesn't matter much that it's not limited to anime. This thread is indeed about why the anime community are still outcasts - this is likely an added factor to that. The other game fandoms are another story and may also be outcasts from the general gaming community, I don't know you didn't say what they were.

 

[Not]

come on, the "everything else is ehh" in every medium is an ignorant thing to say and it's perfectly fine to call someone out over it.

You don't mention 4 movies/books/videogames and say everything else is ehh and expect everyone else to stay quiet about it.

I'm serious, though, I couldn't think of anything else I really like. Even Samurai Champloo is too flawed for me to rewatch, despite how much I enjoyed a lot of it.

Fullmetal Alchemist and Shingeki no Kyojin are similarly okay, but I would by no means recommend them 100%.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

People are responding in seeming offence to the "but otherwise anime is ehh" part and seem offended by it, despite it just being Not's opinion. See hosannainexcelsis' response above.

I'm not offended by it. I just think it's patently ridiculous to say "All anime ever is shit is except these 4 random things I happened to watch." If he said "I don't care to check out Japanese animation because I don't like looking at animation / listening to Japanese / the cultural framework behind it / etc.", fine. But as it is, it comes across as ignorant and needlessly inflammatory.

Seriously, if you heard someone say what I posted about movies, would you say "Yep, that sounds like a reasonable position, those handful are the only good movies out there" or would you say "I think you're on the wrong track there."

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

Someone doesn't need to be "called out" for only liking 4 (well, 3 and 1 person's collective works) things, gosh. It's not "ignorant", it's just how they feel. They didn't even pin the rest of anime with anything, they just said "ehhh." Maybe the list will expand and less things will become "ehh", but I doubt it'll be from people jumping on them for not liking what they like in their list.

I don't agree, it would have been fine if it had been worded in a different way, is it to difficult to say: "From what I've seen, these shows are great but everything else I've seen hasn't been of my liking" instead.

I'm serious, though, I couldn't think of anything else I really like. Even Samurai Champloo is too flawed for me to rewatch, despite how much I enjoyed a lot of it.

Fullmetal Alchemist and Shingeki no Kyojin are similarly okay, but I would by no means recommend them 100%.

There are THOUSANDS of anime out there, I'm sure you'd like something else if you at least liked those 3 anime you mentioned.

 

[Trojita]

I haaaaaaaaven't. The length is scaring me away. Is it anime tropey? I gave Gurren Lagann a shot and couldn't stomach it, even with the cool visuals.

Just watch it. It's excellent. I prefer the older show for the first couple of episodes. But it's definitely worth it and less episodes than DBZ.

Also did you watch Yu Yu Hakusho?

 

[Crash Station]

The other game fandoms are another story and may also be outcasts from the general gaming community, I don't know you didn't say what they were.

First Person Shooter fans, so definitely not outcasts.

 

[dity]

I'm not offended by it. I just think it's patently ridiculous to say "All anime ever is shit is except these 4 random things I happened to watch." If he said "I don't care to check out Japanese animation because I don't like looking at animation / listening to Japanese / the cultural framework behind it / etc.", fine. But as it is, it comes across as ignorant and needlessly inflammatory.

Seriously, if you heard someone say what I posted about movies, would you say "Yep, that sounds like a reasonable position, those handful are the only good movies out there" or would you say "I think you're on the wrong track there."

Considering they didn't present what they said as any kind of fact, as if Not's opinion is the definitive anime consensus or something, I really think you need to pull back and maybe reassess how you see responses like theirs.

They're not on any wrong track, or only saying those are the good ones. I think implying that is what's truly ridiculous.

First Person Shooter fans, so definitely not outcasts.

Considering the typical stereotype of the FPS fan, I'd definitely say they're fans of a genre that the "hardcore" community tends to typically distance themselves from. Unfortunately.

 

[Not]

Just watch it. It's excellent. I prefer the older show for the first couple of episodes. But it's definitely worth it and less episodes than DBZ.

Also did you watch Yu Yu Hakusho?

Only when it was on Toonami. I also haven't seen every episode of DBZ ( I think I read all the manga though)

OK, I could check out the first version of Hunter x Hunter. Any place I can find it online?

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

Only when it was on Toonami. I also haven't seen every episode of DBZ ( I think I read all the manga though)

OK, I could check out the first version of Hunter x Hunter. Any place I can find it online?

Just watch the new one, it's on crunchyroll.

 

[Chet Rippo]

The problem with anime is the weeaboos? I can get behind that.

 

[dity]

I don't agree, it would have been fine if it had been worded in a different way, is it to difficult to say: "From what I've seen, these shows are great but everything else I've seen hasn't been of my liking" instead.

It was basically said like that but in list form. D:

 

[Trojita]

Only when it was on Toonami. I also haven't seen every episode of DBZ ( I think I read all the manga though)

OK, I could check out the first version of Hunter x Hunter. Any place I can find it online?

The original series might be a little bit harder to find on a streaming site. The new one in my opinion just wasn't quite as good at the beginning (which even the beginning of the original wasn't the best, the story really shines a bit ways in).

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Considering they didn't present what they said as any kind of fact, as if Not's opinion is the definitive anime consensus or something, I really think you need to pull back and maybe reassess how you see responses like theirs.

They're not on any wrong track, or only saying those are the good ones. I think implying that is what's truly ridiculous.

I don't know, if I wandered into a thread about movies and said what I posted, I think I'd get pushback there and rightfully so. While Not has since elaborated on his viewpoint, which I appreciate, his original post is indistinguishable from drive-by trolling, even if that was not the intent.

Considering the typical stereotype of the FPS fan, I'd definitely say they're fans of a genre that the "hardcore" community tends to typically distance themselves from. Unfortunately.

Huh? Multiplayer FPS - Call of Duty, Halo, etc. - is at the very core of gaming fandom, as well as the general cultural perception of "gamers".

 

[Daingurse]

One-Punch Man's pretty good

Cowboy Bebop is awesome

Miyazaki is top-tier

Dragon Ball Z's fairly entertaining from a nostalgic standpoint

The rest is ehhh

No Hunter x Hunter 1999/2011 . . .

Only when it was on Toonami. I also haven't seen every episode of DBZ ( I think I read all the manga though)

OK, I could check out the first version of Hunter x Hunter. Any place I can find it online?

Ah, so you plan to rectify this. Goooood, good. Netflix has a lot of 2011, crunchy roll has the rest. Not sure where you watch 99' nowadays. I like both series a lot, but prefer the 2011 adaptation. When I remove the influence of nostalgia Hunter x Hunter is my favorite shonen manga/anime, EASY.

 

[Not]

There are THOUSANDS of anime out there, I'm sure you'd like something else if you at least liked those 3 anime you mentioned.

Sorry about the wording. I was just throwing my hat in.

Despite there being thousands, I've still found only very few do it for me. That's why I like One-Punch Man so much, it doesn't feel anime-y. Maybe because the creator never expected it to be anything other than a webcomic.

I read a few of the My Hero Academia series based on recs and wasn't really impressed. Cool stuff (All Might

Spoiler

and his alter ego

are neat ideas) but not executed well enough to hold my attention.

I watched all of Darker Than Black a few summers ago because I was bored and heard it was superhero-y and that just put me off all anime for a while, haha

 

[Nanashrew]

What rekindled some of my love for anime was going back and watching older anime that I never got to see when I was younger. There's a lot of good stuff out there. It all started because I wanted see an old Toei Animation film from the 60's which then turned into binge watching most of their library into the 70's.

There's a lot of good stuff out there, even some compilation films that play around with animation and story. Recently for my birthday, I watched 1987 anime, specifically Robot Carnival and Neo Tokyo, which lead me into newer compilation works like Genius Party and Genius Party Beyond, which lead me into Masaaki Yuasa's works.

 

[Not]

It was basically said like that but in list form. D:

Just in case you need further evidence we probably agree about a lot of stuff, Steven Universe is my favorite show on TV right now. Period. Like, who cares that it's an 11-minute cartoon.

 

[dity]

I don't know, if I wandered into a thread about movies and said what I posted, I think I'd get pushback there and rightfully so. While Not has since elaborated on his viewpoint, which I appreciate, his original post is indistinguishable from drive-by trolling, even if that was not the intent.

His post was in no way as destructive as drive-by trolling or anything like that. I think you and like two others just way overreacted to it, I reckon more-so than a thread about movies would to your example. Although they might just assume you threw in Avatar to take the piss, but I doubt they'd be offended.

Huh? Multiplayer FPS - Call of Duty, Halo, etc. - is at the very core of gaming fandom, as well as the general cultural perception of "gamers".

Yeah, and lots of people like to make fun of them and it's basically synonymous with the "dudebro" frat gamer stereotype these days. Y'know? It's like they're video gamers, but not video gamers. It's like they're their own thing sometimes.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Sorry about the wording. I was just throwing my hat in.

Despite there being thousands, I've still found only very few do it for me. That's why I like One-Punch Man so much, it doesn't feel anime-y. Maybe because the creator never expected it to be anything other than a webcomic.

I must confess I find that strange, as One Punch Man is definitely steeped in the environment of battle shounen, just treated in a comedic fashion. The One Punch Man anime features a lot of the best animators working today showing off their trademark styles, so if you like the animation there's other examples where that came from.

What rekindled some of my love for anime was going back and watching older anime that I never got to see when I was younger. There's a lot of good stuff out there. It all started because I wanted see an old Toei Animation film from the 60's which then turned into binge watching most of their library into the 70's.

There's a lot of good stuff out there, even some compilation films that play around with animation and story. Recently for my birthday, I watched 1987 anime, specifically Robot Carnival and Neo Tokyo, which lead me into newer compilation works like Genius Party and Genius Party Beyond, which lead me into Masaaki Yuasa's works.

Yeah, Genius Party is great, and I'm glad Studio 4C put that up on Netflix along with Mind Game and Princess Arete. I assume you've seen the recent Animator Expo, which basically takes a similar approach to Genius Party?

 

[Nanashrew]

I must confess I find that strange, as One Punch Man is definitely steeped in the environment of battle shounen, just treated in a comedic fashion. The One Punch Man anime features a lot of the best animators working today showing off their trademark styles, so if you like the animation there's other examples where that came from.



Yeah, Genius Party is great, and I'm glad Studio 4C put that up on Netflix along with Mind Game and Princess Arete. I assume you've seen the recent Animator Expo, which basically takes a similar approach to Genius Party?

Oh no, I haven't :O

I'd love to hear more about this!

 

[The Silver]

Sorry about the wording. I was just throwing my hat in.

Despite there being thousands, I've still found only very few do it for me. That's why I like One-Punch Man so much, it doesn't feel anime-y. Maybe because the creator never expected it to be anything other than a webcomic.

I read a few of the My Hero Academia series based on recs and wasn't really impressed. Cool stuff (All Might

Spoiler

and his alter ego

are neat ideas) but not executed well enough to hold my attention.

I watched all of Darker Than Black a few summers ago because I was bored and heard it was superhero-y and that just put me off all anime for a while, haha

One Punch Man is very "animey", it just takes the piss out of standard shounen tropes.

 

[dity]

Just in case you need further evidence we probably agree about a lot of stuff, Steven Universe is my favorite show on TV right now. Period. Like, who cares that it's an 11-minute cartoon.

<3 We shall survive this hiatus together.