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Cancel culture appears to be losing steam
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Brianna Wu knows now about cancel culture and she's had front row seats.
She had a turnaround is actually pretty cool nowadays.
Hopefully more people that adopted things like cancel culture will see it for what it really is.
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I remain somewhat pessimistic about this and I really don't think it's going to swing the other way. I don't want it to swing completely the other way either. I'd like it to return to the middle.
There is some hope I guess. Brianna Wu has become quite disgusted in the contemporary left and lately she's been on a roll. She's getting a lot of hate from other people on her side lately. But it's people like her that at least make me think that change can happen.
deathstardom
Banned
Ahh Brianna Wu.
Nothing quite gets the far left and far right together agreeing faster than hating an Israel supporter lol
It's literally the ONLY thing the two cuckoo ends of the spectrum agree on
IFireflyl
Gold Member
I don't know what the purpose of this post is. It added nothing of value, and seems a bit looney. No offense.
deathstardom
Banned
Yeah I'm still getting used to this new phone and this thread somehow popped into suggestions.
I actually want to delete this post but it seems deleting or editing isn't possible on this phone
nush
Gold Member
Hatred and scapegoating of Jewish people tends to be a feature of extremism in all forms. The far left I today is just a mirror image of the far right. It has little to do with the liberalism I knew growing up.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's because they're most certainly not liberals.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Hating on Jewish people is partially from their own doing. Not in a bad way, but because despite insanely small numbers around the world compared to other religions, Jewish people have achieved so much with so little people, land, and always needing to spend time and resources fighting mid east wars.
So what you got are tons of jealous people. And like anything in life, the more people have achieved or earned, the more low browers try to take you down. They stare in the mirror looking at lazy asses with more manpower, but knock down Jews because of what the achieved and its easy to do since they dont have strength in numbers to do mob protests back.
If Jewish people were the same number of people, but historically did nothing in life being a forgettable group of people from noname country X, people wouldnt care about bashing Jewish people.
Think of it like sports. I love sports analogies best I can do them. Jews are like a cast of all-stars who come from a small country. Somehow they do it. Some like them, but some will hate them. Reason why you get so much attention is because you've done something well worth criticizing. If you were bench players nobody has heard of, nobody would ever care to bring you up. You could be benched or cut and nobody would notice. Not the greatest analogy, but you get the idea.
Just to prove how retarded it is, people always hate Hitler and Nazis. but they hated Jews. So you'd think people would give Jewish folks a break as an enemy of WWII Germans. Nope. They actually copy Hitler acting like modern day Nazis.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Not cancel culture per se, but DEI-ish related.
Latest big corp changing DEI ambitions. McDonalds.
www.linkedin.com
apnews.com
Latest big corp changing DEI ambitions. McDonalds.
McDonald's scales back DEI goals | LinkedIn
According to a post on the company's website, McDonald's will no longer set "aspirational representation goals."
www.linkedin.com
McDonald's is the latest company to roll back diversity goals
McDonald’s is ending some of its diversity practices, citing a U.S. Supreme Court decision that outlawed affirmative action in college admissions.
apnews.com
Decal4
Neo Member
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/zuck...tize-free-expression-over-censorship.1679330/ wow even Facebook is getting with the program? Things really must be truly desperate for certain groups
I wish they would understand that if they actually tried to win hearts and minds instead of resorting to their us vs them cancel culture we wouldn't be in this backlash.
If people did not feel like all they hold near and dear was under attack they might at least hear them out.
If people did not feel like all they hold near and dear was under attack they might at least hear them out.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They pushed their "utopic" end-game too hard and too fast and much too soon. They still want that end-game. It's just that they're on a time schedule and have already been set back a few times.
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To them it is utopia but to many it is dystopia and anybody that doesn't toe their line is an oppressor that must be destroyed.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Making them literally an oppressor. The irony of it all.
deathstardom
Banned
The thing is, they always end up against each other. Which is when the sensible people begin to rise up.
Purity test sorts of cults always end up collapsing in on themselves. And it always seems out of nowhere, too. But it's not. The model goes like this:
1. A small group of people position themselves as more enlightened than anyone else and start to coalesce around a niche sort of movement or cause that gives them special status among one another as unique and enlightened thinkers.
2. People come to believe in the cause or movement and/or to see it as the cool crowd, and they get on board, and as it grows it becomes sort of self perpetuating as more and more people are drawn to the gravitational pull of it's developing world view.
3. The purity tests start to arise as a way to self-identify as part of the movement and to signal "in crowd" status separated off from those outside the movement.
4. More people join the movement, but no longer because they are drawn to it, but instead because they fear being left outside or, worse, lumped in with those people (and the ideas of those people) who suspect or actively oppose the movement.
5. The movement grows too large, and the entire raison d'etre of the (originally "niche") movement (to feel special) starts to dissolve. This is the tipping point. The moment the movement hits its "mainstream" peak it paradoxically loses it's cultural cachet.
6. The purity tests move inward as a way of establishing a new niche group set apart from the mainstream group.
7. People within the mainstream movement follow along for as long as they can, which means spouting nonsense they don't believe (or at least being sure not to speak up against it) in hopes that they can pass and won't be thrown from the mainstream.
8. You now have two very different goals working against one another in the movement: One subgroup is pushing the envelope to hack the movement back down into a niche group of special people; the other subgroup is trying desperately to keep their place in what they believe has become the new mainstream.
9. You now have an ironic and unsustainable situation where the larger majority of those in the group are just faking compliance because they believe the views they are faking to be mainstream... but it only feels mainstream because of the sheer volume of people who are faking it.
10. Try as they might, there's no way for regular people to sustain this, and at some point or other they fall on the wrong side of some purity test or other; they are thrown into the wilderness, and then with nothing left to lose, they just start speaking their mind on all of it.
11. People in the movement who have been holding on for dear life start to realize that (far) more people agree with the doubts and criticisms they have been so desperately trying to self-censure, and they just start saying what they think. And with that, the whole thing collapses as a main stream movement.
12. Those who never jumped on board express cynical skepticism about the new claims by those who have left the movement who now, all of a sudden, disavow the principles they've been vocally supporting up until very recently. That cynical skepticism is well earned and deserved... but it's also true for most of these people that they never really bought into most of those ideas. They're just cowardly sorts who couldn't bring themselves to express their genuine thoughts until someone else made it safe.
Very true. They can actually learn a lot from the fight for gay marriage. They won that because they approached it the right way.
They convinced people that they wanted to join the club instead if burning it down and they meant no harm. They also didn't generalize all heterosexuals as an oppressor class and now you have even some conservatives that are okay with it.
Compare that to how the transgender, feminist and raced based movements do things and you see why the results are different.