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As a Tracer player, I agree. You can't even kill Reapers or Zaryas with it.
Edit: Well, besides Dva. McCree's is pretty shit too.
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As a Tracer player, I agree. You can't even kill Reapers or Zaryas with it.
Edit: Well, besides Dva. McCree's is pretty shit too.
The Omega Man
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Enemy team needs to know when a widow ult has been activated, also lower body shots damage and scoped fire rate.
You wanna play l33t sniper? Then learn to aim and make every shot count.
You wanna play l33t sniper? Then learn to aim and make every shot count.
Poodlestrike
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Widow's Ult could stand a lower charge speed. Ditto her sniper, amusingly. About the only changes I'd make.
Finaika
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Make her invisible when she's firing.
Yeah, no. Tracer's ult charges fast and can either get a quick kill, take out a turret/Bastion, or cripple a tank. Pharah's ult will most likely get you killed for using it and it's very easy to play around.
Mmm. Yeah, Tracer's isn't so hot, but if you know what you're doing it's a free kill, which is more than I can say for Pharah's
What else could Tracer's ult be? Unlimited blinks for a short time?
Sure you are landing sticks? Stickied ult from Tracer easily OHK's Reaper.
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They can just wraith out of it even if stuck.
the % of Reapers that would react in time to do that is very small, assuming its even up
Dead Prince
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instead of insta kill with the flash bang combo you live with only 10 hp now. but now it'll be a 3 hit combo with melee added.
Is there news on what else might be coming along with that?
Well sure, but when it's on CD you are so dead. More than once I have died little from inside when Tracer has stickied me and wraith form has been on CD.
Poodlestrike
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Something time-based, for sure. Could just be a massive buff to her base move/reload speed, + a rewind at the end of it, or if she ever takes lethal damage during it she auto-rewinds but loses the ult charge.
toastyToast
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It's plenty of time to react to. I don't really mess with Reapers unless they're busy with something else
Thanks, I'll take a look later. Battle. net seems to be blocked for me at work.
orthodoxy1095
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Absolutely not. If you're dashing in and placing it well, it can cause large amounts of havoc.
Plus it charges fast enough to offset any potential strength differentials between it and other ults.
A "landed" Tracer ult will guarantee at least a kill or two. You can't say that about all the ults, even the theoretically "offensive" ones.
I quoted the full post from battle. net on the last page. But he doesn't really say much else.
The bigger patch will be later this month. This week it's just a minor balance patch so there might not be a lot more to it.
Stone Ocean
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It has actual uses against players with half a brain unlike D.Va's
I see the post. Thanks!
Ghost is Bad
Banned
Nah, worst ult in the game is easily D.VAs. Slow, easy to avoid (crouching behind a fucking cardboard cutout on hollywood can block it) and super telegraphed.
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Well if you know what you are doing, it's a free kill with Pharah too no?Mmm. Yeah, Tracer's isn't so hot, but if you know what you're doing it's a free kill, which is more than I can say for Pharah's
Justice rains fro-UGH
She says "Personne n'échappe à mon regard" (French for "No one can hide from my sight")
It's audible from everywhere, just like Molten Core...although not as loud but enough.
Nocturnowl
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I've ended up playing her so much because the sheer amount of Toblerone turrets on PS4 as well as a common lack of tank usage in the team lineup, as such she ended up as one of my better characters as a result.
Having a mech also helps, Hana Song herself just happens to be part of the package and I have to imagine she'd be annoying as all hell in reality.
Now Zenyatta, that's the bot I play for looks, such wonderful harmony.
But you could say that about any ult. That's not something specific to Tracer.
Thank God for those incoming Mcree and Widow nerfs.
His fan the hammer should not murder a Zarya and Widow's charge shot should take twice as long to build up (2 seconds instead of 1). Screw her SMG which does roughly 80% of Soldier 76's assault rifle's damage.
Oh, and I think the enemy team should be notified when her ult is up in a more apparent way.
Basically, screw snipers - especially with those obscene headshot hitboxes.
His fan the hammer should not murder a Zarya and Widow's charge shot should take twice as long to build up (2 seconds instead of 1). Screw her SMG which does roughly 80% of Soldier 76's assault rifle's damage.
Oh, and I think the enemy team should be notified when her ult is up in a more apparent way.
Basically, screw snipers - especially with those obscene headshot hitboxes.
D.Va's ult has actual use too i.e. area clearance.
Tracer's ult is so easily avoidable, she can't even throw far, has shit blast radius and can't kill tanks unless they are already hurt.
Some enemies have ways to get out even if they are stuck like Mei, Reaper, another Tracer and Zarya (the only tank vulnerable to her from full health actually has capability to use it to her own benefit)
Don't really see anyone playing the game. Figured I might join a GAF thing or something if I do.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Finally. Mcree really sucks now. I was killed so many times in decisive moments with maximum health as Zarya.
Same reason Reinhardt's ult affects him and even Pharahs or Genjis. There's a lot of weird things with physics in this game. The Reinhardt being hooked during a charge against Roadhog still bothers me.
He has not yet experienced tranquility
Land your shurikens.
You have to land shurikens to be good at genji. Spam them on supports from the flanks at medium range, try to get multiple people to look at you just by shurikens spamming, and then run away..... If they don't look at you kill the support and get out. That's the the trick with genji, don't go in until they're distracted.
When in close range you want to right click and melee, it comes out really fast.
Save reflect to buy time for cool downs and until after they've already committed to shooting you. Lots of people use reflect way too early, in a 1v1 you should try to tank the first one or two shots to bait them into thinking they're gonna kill you because then they're more likely to keep shooting at the reflect.
I -think- she does have a line that she says to announce using it, but it's quiet compared to other characters' and isn't easily distinguished from her other chatter
Edit: supposedly it's "Personne néchappe à mon regard"
TheLetdown
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Mmm. Yeah, Tracer's isn't so hot, but if you know what you're doing it's a free kill, which is more than I can say for Pharah's
It's not a free kill, though, unless you sticky a squishy character. Tanks and all that have to be followed up. I suggested before that a sticky should be a guaranteed kill. Area damage could be less than that.
Pharah just takes positioning and you can usually get at least one kill out of it.
She's already super single-target focused, so maybe make the bomb have a bigger radius with less damage? Maybe something that nulls barriers so you can follow up with shots? I'd even prefer a DoT skill.
Most ults currently are minor game changers. Even Hanzos, which most people know how to look out for and dodge, disrupts the entire match for that brief window while people GTFO. Even D.Va's, as bad as it is. Pharah, too, when you hear that "Justice..." start. But nothing about Tracer's ult is a game changer, even when you get a sticky double kill out of it.
She's still one of the best characters in the game.
TheLetdown
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Supposedly, they're looking at the two separately.
And the more probable scenario would be the opposite of what you're suggesting. They're looking at balancing McCree and Widowmaker, both of whom are way, way better on PC than they are on consoles.
On console, I think Widowmaker is in a good spot. Dominating ones are few and far between. I totally recognize that it's not the case for PC, though. I've taken my fair share of AWPs to the dome.
EDIT: Sorry for double post.
Despite my avatar suggestin otherwise, I think it's about time. McCree dropped me single handely 4 to 6 times yesterday as Reinhardt and that's ridiculous while Widowmaker completely shutdown 4 games the other day just by spamming sniper shots.
He does here.
Im ok with these nerfs but what it really sours my experience of the gmae (Which i friggin love) is Bastion's cannon and Torbjörn turrets.
With those nerfs i would be in heaven.
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE !! >8(
With those nerfs i would be in heaven.
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE !! >8(
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