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Klyka

Banned
Zenyatta healing power is too low he is more of an offensive support. And lucio is ok but the res ult is gamechanging when hit correctly. It wins games alone. So no surprise mercy is the most played even in tournaments.

Lucio's ult can completely win games as well.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
I love how winston is supposed to counter widow, and yet 90% teams have a mercy that gets her heal on widow so you do like 10 dps and widow does 130 with smg, not including headshots.

I wish winston was more aim skill based. I don't like playing him much.
I don't really agree with Winston being a Widowmaker counter, it only seem to work against Widowmakers that stay 20 meters behind her team and have bad aim or no awareness of her surroundings. Anyways, I don't enjoy playing Winston that much either, even though I love the hero himself. Jumping around is fun, but his tesla cannon is so damn boring.
I understand that, but do people have fun playing her? I don't.
Yes, I do. I have fun playing all four support heroes. Mercy is the one I have the least fun solely because my fun with her relies on what heroes the team picked. Having Pharah in the team always makes thing a lot more fun.
 

cHinzo

Member
Winston just need a damn alt fire for some extra burst to finish people off at the end. So many people just walked back to their group surviving with a sliver of health, because his Tesla Cannon is more of a tickle cannon.
 
Best team comp last night - Hanzo, Hanzo, Widowmaker, Widowmaker, Genji. For Attack on Route 66.

In those situations I've now started picking Hanzo/Widowmaker myself, just to highlight how stupid the whole thing is.
 
I don't really agree with Winston being a Widowmaker counter, it only seem to work against Widowmakers that stay 20 meters behind her team and have bad aim or no awareness of her surroundings. Anyways, I don't enjoy playing Winston that much either, even though I love the hero himself. Jumping around is fun, but his tesla cannon is so damn boring.

Yup. People in this thread think that because it works in their pub games against completely uncordinated teams that it actually works well. Turns out, it works against bad teams really well. That's true.

But a widow can just easily escape or have her health outhealed by winston's damage to the point that all you really accomplished was removing her from the fight for 5 seconds. Some might view that as a win, but it's not. Because the duration that widow is out of the fight, you're out of the fight as well. No one has really gained an advantage in that exchange unless someone dies.

I wonder what the nerf will be...
 

Genryu

Banned
Got a PotG with Winston by leaping at a Mercy, ulting, and pummeling her to death. Then I spun around and there was a half-dead McCree just aching to get smacked upside the head, so I obliged. Then apparently a Junkrat who hadn't gotten the message yet who was just starting up his rip-tire, and my last two swings killed him and his Rip-Tire just seconds before we finished capping the point.

Harambe Revenge, indeed.
 

Klyka

Banned
A Widowmaker doesn't even need to in an entire coordinated team, even just playing with one friend who supports you makes you almost untouchable.

A Widow with a Mercy rips basically everyone to shreds.
A Widow with a McCree close to her is gonna laugh at Flankers or Winston trying to get her.

The amount of Widows I tried to keep from destroying my team only to find them with a pocket Mercy at all times is staggering.
 

Klyka

Banned
My favorite moment is when I am Widowmaker to somehow try and counter an enemy Widowmaker and I clearly shoot her in the head,I even see my bullet trail through her head but it counts as a bodyshot and she survives while at the exact same time dispatching me with a headshot.

Every.

Single.

Time.

uuuugh learning to snipe is so hard D:
 
I am sure this has probably been said by players in the support class but I am tired of getting no voting recognition when I have put in a metric f*ck-tonne of healing to the team.
 

ViviOggi

Member
I am sure this has probably been said by players in the support class but I am tired of getting no voting recognition when I have put in a metric f*ck-tonne of healing to the team.

It shouldn't be said because at least on PC there's a massive healer bias which only gets beaten by stack/team bias.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
I am sure this has probably been said by players in the support class but I am tired of getting no voting recognition when I have put in a metric f*ck-tonne of healing to the team.
inb4 voting doesn't matter!

I personally always vote for healers unless they only have 15% healed in a considerably long match.

On the subject, finally got a sweet Zenyatta POTG yay! I think he was the only hero I hadn't got POTG with yet.
 
It shouldn't be said because at least on PC there's a massive healer bias which only gets beaten by stack/team bias.



inb4 voting doesn't matter!

I personally always vote for healers unless they only have 15% healed in a considerably long match.

On the subject, finally got a sweet Zenyatta POTG yay! I think he was the only hero I hadn't got POTG with yet.

I must be getting unlucky then with unappreciative players. I had something like 40% that amounted to 9500 last night and not a vote. I want some love ;p
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I see healers getting the votes all the time.

Moreso if you're mercy because lucio is seen as the noob option i guess.

What I'm even more annoyed at is that i get cards based on my objective time than my healing more often than not. :Lol

Stay on the fucking objective lads.
 

ViviOggi

Member
I must be getting unlucky then with unappreciative players. I had something like 40% that amounted to 9500 last night and not a vote. I want some love ;p

I mean yeah, that's always gonna happen here and there. It's not that easy to recognize who played well especially from the pointless postgame cards unless it's preceded by a truly impressive POTG. On the flipside I see utterly dreadful Mercys get epic all the time, or irrelevant Reinhardts for that matter just because they have 10k+ damage blocked (no shit everyone's gonna shoot your barrier to break it).

Honestly for how chaotic the game is the postgame votes are, on average, surprisingly accurate in my experience.
 

Hex

Banned
I've had this happen a few times in the past couple of days. It's incredibly frustrating. I wish blizzard would implement what Treyarch did with Black Ops 3. If you join a game in progress and lose, it doesn't count against you but if you win you still get the win.

That is how it works. At least you get the xp but I do not think you get the win but at least you do not get the loss.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
Those snipers that refuse to step on the point to buy the team some time are driving me mad. Stupid people.

Edit: Hanamura defense, people picked Genji, McCree and Tracer. I... just left on the hero select screen. I can understand having one flanker on defense, but three?
 
I don't really play FPS games, especially on PC, but Overwatch looks fascinating to me, and I want to get it. But I want to get a decent gaming mouse and keyboard. I don't want to break the bank, but I figure it's time to upgrade from the standard office-fare junk I'm currently using.

Any suggestions for a mouse/keyboard combo that works well with Overwatch?
 

mxgt

Banned
Those snipers that refuse to step on the point to buy the team some time are driving me mad. Stupid people.

Edit: Hanamura defense, people picked Genji, McCree and Tracer. I... just left on the hero select screen. I can understand having one flanker on defense, but three?

Hopefully this is something that improves in the future.. the amount of people, not just snipers, that refuse to dive on the point in overtime, or stick to their low mobility characters to run back is crazy.
 

Hex

Banned
Fam...I have to drive out to Orlando tonight after work to work at our office out there for the rest of the week...it will be three days with no Overwatch :(
 

Dunfisch

Member
Oh man, just played Mystery Heroes for a bit, and what a rush that is. The forced "git gud or die trying" approach does in fact work wonderfully. Really makes you adapt and evolve as a player.

I also had a sick moment as Zarya on Numbani Payload, Ult'ed the cart when the whole enemy team was there, hearing that "double- triple kill QUADRUPLE KILL" announcer, oh man. Wrapped it by shielding a d.Va on my team so she was safe from a Roadhog coming up close. Called PotG right there and to no surprise it came at the end.

And I didn't have Shadowplay on. Tried to launch it while ingame, it wouldn't trigger. Restarted in the slim hope that my highlights reel would still be there... NOPE.

For all that is holy Blizzard, implement saving of PotG from the highlight reel menu. That moment is lost forever to me :( . Think I won't play Overwatch without Shadowplay active from now on.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
Just lost a match on Lijiang Tower against a team that consisted of Reinhardt, Torbjorn, Symmetra, Bastion, Soldier and Lúcio. We couldn't do anything :( I switched to Junkrat but I couldn't really do much...

Edit:
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Better than another D.Va legendary or a legendary for some hero I don't like, I guess >_<
 

Jarate

Banned
And I understand K/D isn't everything, but I'm going to 22-4 as torn on defense, they shouldn't be able to fucking roll us

My teams today have been absolutely garbage in every sense of the word, my MMR must be too high :/
 

cHinzo

Member
Just lost a match on Lijiang Tower against a team that consisted of Reinhardt, Torbjorn, Symmetra, Bastion, Soldier and Lúcio. We couldn't do anything :( I switched to Junkrat but I couldn't really do much...

Edit:

Better than another D.Va legendary or a legendary for some hero I don't like, I guess >_<
That team should have trouble taking a site, but oh boy once they do lol. That's like a small fortress.
I am sure this has probably been said by players in the support class but I am tired of getting no voting recognition when I have put in a metric f*ck-tonne of healing to the team.
Almost everyone on PC vote for the support, because we all understand what a thankless job it is. :d
 

cHinzo

Member
The problem with defending is that you are not gonna hold the enemy team back if your team hardly make any kills :^) It's like getting a gold medal for eliminations as support and prepare to get steamrolled by the other team.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
So 2 reins, 1 bastion sitting on the payload, one zarya, a widow and a mercy are escorting the payload.

How do you break that off?

I was the zarya btw.
 
Last night I was attacking on Volskaya with randoms, and we were getting wrecked on the second attack point. I was playing Mercy and held my ultimate for at least three minutes, waiting for the moment when the stream of randoms managed to finally attack in unison (and spamming the chat to stop running in alone dammit). The defense got a bit cocky and pushed up too far, we dropped a couple of the guys hanging on the point, I rez'd a Reinhardt and a Reaper, and we picked up the second capture point. The only member of our team with a card was me - for healing as Mercy.

Point is: score is near meaningless. Even when your team is getting destroyed, all you really have to do is get one team fight to go your way and you'll take the point. There's no such thing as an unloseable or unwinnable game.
 

PatjuhR

Member
Don't know about that.

You said yourself the defense got cocky. But what if they didn't and stay focussed on D. Would you still win it?
 

Jarate

Banned
Also holy crap koth symm is fucking hilarious. Got gold in elims and obj elim.

I usually only like to run Symmetra for a couple of maps in KOTH, because she is easily countered by a lot of classes in the game, but man, there is no better feeling then sticking a shit ton of turrets all over the place and just melting opponents with your microwave gun. Certain classes who cannot deal with her it's just an easy kill

The teleporter is harder to use, but if the other team is running a tracer, McCree or reaper, your teleporter should be fine
 
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