Nocturnowl
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I know right? not only that but I swear every one of them is pretty competent as well so I've grown to fear her.
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I know right? not only that but I swear every one of them is pretty competent as well so I've grown to fear her.
Stone Ocean
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I blame all those POTG videos of her ulting some wall and dragging an entire team to a pit - I call it the Hanzo effect.
Plus people are likely finally understanding that she's fucking strong.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Man, I love it when pubs get salty when I use sym in KOTH (hey don't blame me, I got silver in obj time and obj elims).
Then only to lose to my team when MM mixes up players.
I'll admit though, she seems super situational (well, when is she not really) and need the right team composition (aka have a lucio) but when it works it works man.
Then only to lose to my team when MM mixes up players.
I'll admit though, she seems super situational (well, when is she not really) and need the right team composition (aka have a lucio) but when it works it works man.
Shake Appeal
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Those are pretty minor nerfs, honestly. In fact, the way I play McCree probably just got more powerful with the reduced reload time.
A Widow charged headshot is just as powerful as before. I'll be more scared of Tracers (and the McCree nerf is also a buff to Tracers!), but that's about it.
A Widow charged headshot is just as powerful as before. I'll be more scared of Tracers (and the McCree nerf is also a buff to Tracers!), but that's about it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Is it a buff to tracer? He'll still kill her outright.
Oh ok, I knew headshots do more damage, I guess I was just confused by the verbiage.
Thanks!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also holy crap, that headshot buff is gonna suck for DVa if her critical hitbox is as it is now.
orthodoxy1095
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Didn't even get think of that. Say goodbye to any D.Va usage that was left.
Stone Ocean
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It won't change a thing, the headshot change is just to make it so Widow's fully charged headshots do the same damage as before.
This change only applies to her, not all heroes.
The headshots literally do the same damage they did before.
Shake Appeal
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A small one. Before, he needed to land three bullets on her if she is at full health, two if she was hurt at all. Now he needs to land four, which is fine at point-blank range, but gives her a little more help in the Fan the Hammer RNG game, especially as distance increases.
It's more of a buff to Reaper/Mei, because McCree now needs to land a full six shots for a single FtH to kill them.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Ah, so it just normalises the damage done by headshots after the charged scope damage nerf?
Incendiary
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Question: approximately how far do you need to ride the payload to get the trophy? Like in terms of length of level - I know it says 100m but is that the distance between two checkpoints? Further? Is it best to just ride it with Bastion and just hope nobody kills you? I feel like I've ran next to a payload for a long enough time multiple times but I still haven't gotten it.
Stone Ocean
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Correct
Old headshot: (15x2) x 10 = 300
New headshot: (12x2.5) x 10 = 300
120
StrangeTaco
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Weird, patch notes are live but apparently the patch itself isn't?
Just tested in practice range and Widow's bodyshots still are doing 150.
Just tested in practice range and Widow's bodyshots still are doing 150.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
But that shouldn't be a problem at the range he operates right?
If we are talking about flash+fan then
5 actually (and still 3 for Tracer)...the flashbang does 25 damage.
One Foul Note
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I wouldn't be surprised if it will go live tomorrow. Given that Battlenet has its maintenance then.
GwyndolinCinder
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Yes cause good tracers die to Mccree.....
TheLetdown
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But then that also means it's not a buff, since good Tracer wouldn't die to McCree in his previous state, either.
So... it's a wash?
Can you even get off all the shots before the stun ends? Or will Mei/Reaper pretty much always get away now.
StrangeTaco
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Because they're not OP? Widow + junkrat annihilate them.
Antiwhippy
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You can.
Flashbang stuns for 0.7 seconds...FTH takes 1 second to unload all 6 bullets....you only need 5 which takes 0.83 seconds.
This gives the Mei/Reaper player like ~0.3 seconds to react (taking into account the stun time wasted due to the delay between flash and starting FTH)....I don't think it's practically possible to respond to that and press a button that fast..
Even if you repeatedly press it chances are you'll miss it.
This Widow nerf actually means turret buff now that I think about it.
Torb turrets got a slight buff since it takes 2 charged widow shots + a half charge to kill a turret now, right?
edit: takes 2 shots to kill a l1 turret now too
Just had my most intense and best game yet.
As Lucio, 15 minutes on Lijang Tower, 1-0, 1-1, 2-1.
With the 2 last points both being contested in overtime for a long while!
Had career best scores in eliminations (36), objective kills (32), objective time (04:48), damage done (5,503) and healing done (16,615)
As Lucio, 15 minutes on Lijang Tower, 1-0, 1-1, 2-1.
With the 2 last points both being contested in overtime for a long while!
Had career best scores in eliminations (36), objective kills (32), objective time (04:48), damage done (5,503) and healing done (16,615)
KINGofCRA5H
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I wonder when/if PS4 is getting these changes
PartTimeWarrior
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I got a dupe icon in a crate
I realized last night that I have a shit Tracer. I try to be all evasive with her blinks only to immediately get caught up against some random object in the world behind me. It makes me sad.
They've said that consoles are being balanced differently. From what I understand there is zero reason to nerf Widow on consoles.
They've said that consoles are being balanced differently. From what I understand there is zero reason to nerf Widow on consoles.
TheLetdown
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They're not great on console, either.
The main I'd say is get good at blinking left and right. Stay on the outskirts of a point or wherever the fray is and attack your targets at medium range. When your clip is empty and you start the reload, blink left or right. Every time. Get used to doing that. Mix it up, though. Don't just get left, then right, then left, etc. That timing means you'll always have a blink up your sleeve in case something goes awry.
You'll be able to wreck your opponents 1v1 because you always know if you're blinking.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Wait did they make Widow's headshots do MORE damage
Omega Kirby
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They nerfed widowmaker?!?! Finally Zenyatta can live again 
Same damage
Tyrant Rave
Banned
They do the same. Bodyshots do less so the modifier had to be adjusted.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Oooh, I wonder if the scope changes would make it easier for mei to harass widow from a distance now. Getting an icicle shot off seems quicker than widow getting scope charge.
There is. Console players still one shot Zenyatta with body shots, they're not THAT bad.
toastyToast
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Update is live. Takes 5 bullets to fan the training dummies. From now on you'll have to make a point of starting your fans from the enemies groin/lower torso
The Omega Man
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So FTH has bigger recoil now?
toastyToast
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You can control it of course but it bucks up so start low. Can't afford to miss any really
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