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Overwatch |OT3| White, White, Blue, White
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toastyToast
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Also the de-scope delay is noticeable but it'll barely reduce the efficiency of a good Widow
Stone Ocean
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Console or PC? Did you search for updates? It's definitely live, Widow fully charged, point blank body shots are dealing slightly less damage than a fully charged Hanzo arrow and the scope delay is there.
Freezasaurus
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They didn't touch Pharah did they?
PC gonna try again, person I was testing it with said he didnt have an update so I told him to restart battlenet
GwyndolinCinder
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We were testing on EU PC.
optimus8936
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Is it only live on PC? I'm on console and I'm not seeing any differences.
Dead Prince
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Mercy can heal a self harm pharah right?
Stone Ocean
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I was testing on the American server so that's probably it.
Console won't be getting this patch, but a bigger one later.
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745235963
GwyndolinCinder
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Really surprised by changing the damage values, tracer not dying to a body shot is kinda crazy.
Blame console cert times - the patches will ALWAYS go live on PC quicker.
That's why they're being bundled on the console later on with more changes. It costs Blizzard money to push out any changes so it's more efficient to do many at once rather than the trickle that PC gets.
Definitely points to PC as the main platform (unsurprisingly with Blizzard's heritage) but it's no console TF2 scenario either.
I can understand Zenyatta surviving body shots making him stronger, but it also means it's a Tracer buff.
I feel Tracer doesn't have many counters as I'm always posting about, and nerfing both McCree and Widowmaker means she'll be even tougher to stop. The odds of headshotting a Tracer seem crazy small.
I feel Tracer doesn't have many counters as I'm always posting about, and nerfing both McCree and Widowmaker means she'll be even tougher to stop. The odds of headshotting a Tracer seem crazy small.
Official patch notes
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745235963
Not coming to console until a bigger patch.
optimus8936
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I see, that's a shame, I was happy about the mccree nerf. Oh well, I guess I'll have to live with it.
Symettra, out-of-mech dva and other widows will also survive now. Its a pretty significant change.
I've never felt that Tracer was an issue, even if she has no direct counters.
No. Nerfed
Ginger Hail
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Headshots do the same damage. They just upped the multiplier to make up for the reduced damage she does in general.
They wanted headshots to still do the same damage so they up'ed the multiplier.
I'm going to miss you EZ mode sniper
Headshoots do increased damage for all heroes, they just increased Widow's scoped headshot multiplier so that when they lowered her base damage she still does the same damage with her headshots.
You do more damage if you hit the head. A fully charged shot did 150 damage, a headshot gave a 2x multiplier.
Now it's 120 damage and 2.5x instead, which is also 300 so her headshot damage is still the same.
That dude doesn't rely on FTH like most players. Dude gets constant headshots with the left click version.
I think this is a good change. If your landing consistent headshots and a godlike sniper in general, then you'll still be a monster. If you were relying on bodyshots before for most of your kills,this will encourage you to better your aim.
And for mcCree, this will encourage players to use his left click more and try to play with the team at medium range rather than going in, killing the tank and dying.
And for mcCree, this will encourage players to use his left click more and try to play with the team at medium range rather than going in, killing the tank and dying.
GitarooMan
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Gonna have to get that last bit of shredding done with McCree on console while I adjust on PC.
Oh they fixed the reaper teleports too. That's nice even if I never ran into it personally
super-famicom
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Interesting patch notes. McCree nerf was not unexpected. As a PS4 player, I won't be seeing this for a while..
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Deleted member 325805
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Interested to see how McCree feels now, and I'm glad Widow got hit, I still wish they'd made it more obvious when she has ultimate up though.
yes.
CybernatonEvolution
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The Widowmaker nerf is amazing; now I think I will have a better chance of picking her instead of ALWAYS changing heroes to fill in the missing roles. The next hero that should get completely fucked up is Hanzo. He is getting picked more than Widow and people seem to like picking him as their "main"; you will often see those assholes stick to Hanzo even though their team is either losing or having too many snipers (who picked before them).
My suggested nerf to Hanzo to reduce his hitbox/aim-assist, or decrease his range.
I feel sorry for those idiots who main those "fun" characters; I am having a lot of fun by changing roles and learning all characters. I mean, it makes sense to master and perfect a certain character or a small number of them for specific high-level teams where the team members are static, but you still have to learn all characters for the sake of knowing their strengths and strategies--aside from having fun.
My suggested nerf to Hanzo to reduce his hitbox/aim-assist, or decrease his range.
I feel sorry for those idiots who main those "fun" characters; I am having a lot of fun by changing roles and learning all characters. I mean, it makes sense to master and perfect a certain character or a small number of them for specific high-level teams where the team members are static, but you still have to learn all characters for the sake of knowing their strengths and strategies--aside from having fun.
Hanzo isn't that great already though. Widowmaker probably still better than him all things considered.
Stone Ocean
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Hanzo is shit
CybernatonEvolution
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Yeah he is. I have an irrational hate for him, but that is because of the community. I don't remember a game without Hanzo in it; I am certain that he is used more than Widow (she is just more dangerous). I am interested in seeing how Widow will fare in high-level play; they just made her less accessible.
It kinda reminds me of overpowered fighting game characters that have ridiculous execution requirements.
As much as I know deep down that Hanzo is not a very good character, nothing makes me rage more than playing against him and watching the most ridiculous kill cams. The number of times I've been head shot blindly by a Hanzo just lobbing arrows at an area he can't even see or getting randomly killed by scatter arrows...
Snacks the sober sea lion
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People who complain about Hanzo don't really seem to understand the difference between hitscan and projectiles. If his arrows had the same hitboxes as bullets, he would be infuriatingly difficult to play effectively as and just not viable.
I hate getting killed instantly by barely-glancing scattershots while mine sporadically do only 50 damage, though.
I hate getting killed instantly by barely-glancing scattershots while mine sporadically do only 50 damage, though.
That nerf is not even close enough to stop all the players who "main" widow.
Also it's not only Hanzo's arrows which have a bigger hitbox but pretty much all projectiles. Everyone is just salty about Hanzo because he shoots thin arrows.
That's completely untrue.
CybernatonEvolution
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Both Hanzo and Widow have an enlarged hitbox for headshots, and shit-ton of active frames on the bullets/arrows. Hanzo's arrows are on the ridiculous side though; the scrubs just have to point where you are and shoot--Widow requires a bit more precision because of her zoom. Pre-shooting is a bit overlooked from what I saw, but it is most likely by players who like to hide and camp with Widow instead of pressuring the other team.
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Deleted member 325805
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So is it live or not? I just played McCree and wrecked the same as usual.
Maybe it is on PS4 or XBO but it's in no way reflective of what is going on on PC.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Yay... widows have to actually aim for the head now it looks like instead of double bodyshotting people. Well certainly looks like a less viable tactic to double bodyshot. Assuming the top damage on charge is 120, you can't even full charge double bodyshot a reaper but you can full charge 1 headshot a reaper.
She'll still be the most picked sniper. Wall hacks still active on death(lol), charge rate still fast as hell, 200HP with her frame, mine does 75 damage, still no reason to play hanzo.
RespectThySole
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Did D.Va get buffed already? Just went 38-1 with her lol
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