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Snacks the sober sea lion
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That depends on the situation. An accurate Junkrat is a real threat on offense or defense, compared to the dummies the game will put on your team who just wander around and spam at random.
I'm at level 150 and people seem to not realize there is more than one route on each map. Get used to it.
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Very bad, there are far better tools for the job.
Can catch people off guard when you set up a pocketed turret/Bastion on the payload but it's a pocket strat for sure. On absurdly attacker-favored maps like Numbani you'll get away with it more often. Don't ever go full memelord though trying to float into the enemy base via Volskaya's moving platforms on attack, literally the worst
This makes me laugh becaue I've seen Bastions doing this and after the brief SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER moment they die horribly and waste their team's time.
Yeah people not using side maps is rough.
Also I just had a Mercy who felt the need to pop her ultimate as soon as she got it even though nobody was dead....three times.
I find it to be awful, essentially making it 6v5 in most cases.
Bastion is the best of those 3 on attack I find. He's decent out of turret mode and he can quickly pick up everything and move to a new location as the situation demands. Plus his ult is killer in terms of breaking through enemy defenses.
Torb is alright. He's got a great gun, but he needs time to set up his turret whereas Bastion just plops down in a spot and he's ready to go. Symmetra is even worse in this regard because of her slow cooldowns on her turrets, but she also has a great gun. If you're encountering a ton of tough resistance her teleporter is great, but it's worthless if you're already winning, whereas Bastion's tank mode can break through enemy defenses or clean up.
For point B on assault maps, I've won multiple times by switching to Symmetra (only if we have a mercy, 2 offence, 2 tanks though) and setting up a sneaky teleporter very close. It can force everyone to group up after being wiped too.
I love Symmetra catfights when I'm on offence, they never expect it.
Bastion can be really effective on attack, as long as the player is mobile and skilled in his recon mode too. I did find Symmetra's teleporter handy once on the last checkpoint of Route 66, where the walk from the spawn to push the paylod those last few meters can be a pain in the butt.
They can aloso be successful in KOTH games. Bastion is decent on the Nepal maps, Symmetra can be nice for some of the Ilois maps, etc
Just played a match with 2 Symmetras on an Attack map.
I mean, I get liking certain characters and all, but c'mon pubbies. She's like the worst character to double up with as her shields can't be double stacked and her teleporter doesn't partciularly combo well together. I can kinda see it on defense maps just for the sheer turret spam, I guess.
Doesn't help the defenders had two torjborns and a generally turtle-ish attitude so nobody was coming to get into range of the sentries anyway.
I mean, I get liking certain characters and all, but c'mon pubbies. She's like the worst character to double up with as her shields can't be double stacked and her teleporter doesn't partciularly combo well together. I can kinda see it on defense maps just for the sheer turret spam, I guess.
Doesn't help the defenders had two torjborns and a generally turtle-ish attitude so nobody was coming to get into range of the sentries anyway.
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No because you wouldn't end up with people not playing the objective, eventually would would get to a level of play where you are playing with the majority of players attempting to play the game correctly.
Gravemind IV
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Just bought into the hype. Got 7 deflection kills with Genji in one game, he's great.
Shouta
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Symmetra is no bueno on attack. She can't assist as you make your approach and her turrets are only good for choking up points because their range is limited. The only positive she has is her teleporter but you actually have to get meter to do it and that usually means getting into the thick of things.
Bastion and Torb fair a bit better but it's less than ideal most of the time. On Escort maps, you can setup on the payload. If you have a Rein, he can guard it like he would everyone but that can be dicey as you're clumped up together. You can also move around but you need to be able to take out folks in one on ones as you encounter them and make sure you're helping as your team is moving the payload. Other wise, things go south fast. King of the Hill is a bit better than Escort but because of the slugfest nature of those maps, you really need to pick and choose when to setup and the like.
Assault (Take A+B) maps are kinda butt for all 3 though.
That said, certain team comps make it possible to play at least Bastion on Escort maps but it requires really good coordination to even pull off.
Do they? I'm pretty sure I've had kill against hitscan heroes because of my rockets continuing after I died. Them disappearing could be a latency issue, or I might be hallucinating.
JMZ555
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Not everytime but it has happened multiple times to me and its annoying.
Ive watched it on reply aswel and you can just see the rocket disappear in mid air
Mobius and pet octopus
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It's latency. You shot a rocket but the game interprets the data as you dying already and having never shot it. I think. Isee the deal with blinking, I blink but in the kill cam I never did.
JMZ555
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If the rocket had just literally left my gun I wouldn't care but when its travelled a bit of distance and you can see it would have hit target but fizzle away its annoying
Felix Lighter
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Yes that's the situation. You were dead before the rocket was actually fired but the client wasn't updated until after the rocket appeared to be fired on your screen.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Offense Bastion is a gimmicky version of offense McCree; an immobile flanker that kills anyone he gets the drop on. Bastion is not locked to cooldowns, can heal himself and has a better ult. That said, I can't see it being worth giving up McCree's immense utility as one of the few Tracer and Phara counters.
Offense Symmetra can work on the second point of capture maps as the walk to cap B is further for offense than it is for defense. Hiding a teleporter close to the point can get you a sneaky win as well. Overall it's just too inconsistent though, would only try it if you have time to spare and failed the first rush for cap B.
Felix Lighter
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That's an interesting nerf. It would be huge. What about replacing a turret before it's destroyed? If that is delayed, he becomes pretty much useless for straight escort defense.
GreenMonkey
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Me and a couple of buddies played against 4x Tornjorns the other day doing payload. The other guy was playing Genji or Tracer or something, I forget. That many turrets is just annoying...can't find any angles to pick them off without being instagibbed by 2 or 3 turrets.
Haven't figured out the counter to that yet. Benji gets shredded, Pharaoh gets shot out of the air too quickly, Dva's field only good for one turret, the others blast her too quickly.
So he goes from 12 secs to 22 seconds? I dont mind, give him back the 450 hp level 3 he can build at anytime and the damage buff.
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Felix Lighter
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Yeah, Torbs has been little more than a minor annoyance in my experience on PC. I've done well with him but just as a back up for cleaning up kills. Not really a huge defensive roadblock. Bastion has been more effective but he doesn't typically last long either. Fixed defenses just aren't great with Widowmakers out there.
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I don't mind someone picking Bastion on attack as long as they actually use recon mode too and can aim, but this happens maybe 5% of the time.
Sym really only works on payload or KOTH when the enemy needs to at least be in your vicinity, and only if the rest of the team is on point. Seen it work on the final piece of payload if she's able to set up a TP in a safe spot close to the spawn, but not something I'd rock.
Torbjorn's actually not bad as the turret has better aim and awareness than most players and serves as a distraction, while Torbjorn himself is short, has a gun that works well at close or long range, and can heal/armor himself and others, not to mention Molten Core. Unfortunately too many who try him on attack place the turrets poorly and babysit them too much.
Sym really only works on payload or KOTH when the enemy needs to at least be in your vicinity, and only if the rest of the team is on point. Seen it work on the final piece of payload if she's able to set up a TP in a safe spot close to the spawn, but not something I'd rock.
Torbjorn's actually not bad as the turret has better aim and awareness than most players and serves as a distraction, while Torbjorn himself is short, has a gun that works well at close or long range, and can heal/armor himself and others, not to mention Molten Core. Unfortunately too many who try him on attack place the turrets poorly and babysit them too much.
dryuriev7777
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BOY HOWDY you know what's a tad bit frustrating? Spending 15-20 minutes on the 3rd round of a koth and losing and looking at your team and there's 2 goddamn Lucios when we needed a tank. Especially when they were asked for one to switch to a tank before it started. I mean they weren't bad players or anything, we just didn't need 2 Lucios and the other team had like 2-3 76s and man a Rein or a Roadhog would have been so helpful but I lose and I still get PotG and I still get 4 golds and I'm playing goddamn Symmetra and aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIUGEbgIURHgIUH
I wish I didn't like playing this game as much as I do lol
I wish I didn't like playing this game as much as I do lol
That's Bastions in general I find, lol. I rarely see anyone pick Bastion anymore.
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You were playing Sym on KOTH and you're complaining about other people?
Aaronology
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You were playing Ms. Satya against several 76s and you think the 2xLucios (both very effective and very common in KOTH) were the problem? If you guys needed a Reinhardt or a Hog, why didn't you switch?
Had a funny encounter with Reinhardt v Reinhardt yesterday. Enemy pins me but doesn't get the kill, I pin him back and finish him off. Felt like a cartoon lol.
Practicing getting accurate with your grenades is also worth your while. Sure, a lot of the time it'll be artillery but there'll be plenty of awry times when a direct hit can save your life and so on.
Just wanna give a +1 to the concussion mine advice given, it can be pretty versatile.
Practicing getting accurate with your grenades is also worth your while. Sure, a lot of the time it'll be artillery but there'll be plenty of awry times when a direct hit can save your life and so on.
A close KotH match was my only good one today, and we lost anyway because aparently our group didn't know to spread out when you hear "fire in the hole?" Then on the tie breaker our team brawled instead of heading to the point, giving it to them in the beginning.
Stayed with the same queue but we lost an attack game because my team literally as a group was chasing kills. Turning game off until my late night group gets on.
Kicker, over time hits and I fly past all the BS and destroy torb turrets as Pharah so my team can safely enter the point, DEFEAT pops up as I land on the objective. My group was brawling instead of rushing the point -_-
Stayed with the same queue but we lost an attack game because my team literally as a group was chasing kills. Turning game off until my late night group gets on.
Kicker, over time hits and I fly past all the BS and destroy torb turrets as Pharah so my team can safely enter the point, DEFEAT pops up as I land on the objective. My group was brawling instead of rushing the point -_-
dryuriev7777
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Yes!
Because we asked for one of them to switch. Honestly in all the crazy power struggle for the point in the last round, I thought one of them had switched. It wasn't until the end result that I saw we still had two Lucios. Also I held my own as Sym and I wanna bitch like the whiny tantrum child I am.
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