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Mupod

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So every tank survives at full health except for Zarya. Good to know. I'll still stick them when I get the chance just because that's still a lot of damage (and I NEED that adorable spray), plus how often are tanks at full health anyway?

if the Zarya has a shield up it will eat the damage. It only absorbs 200 damage but a single hit above that will be fully negated (junkrat tire, D-va explosion etc).

of course if the shield is on cooldown or doesn't have the presence of mind to hit it on reaction, then it's still a good option.
 

nOoblet16

Member
I am legit not good enough as a Genji player to easily 1v1 a Widowmaker.

I have 3 hours played as him but just have a really hard time getting his Shurikens on target.
Especially Widowmaker will just grapple away, jump around ,poison mine and keep peppering you with her SMG. You deflect the SMG for a bullet or two which makes her stop and then once it's over she'll go right back to it.

I don't know,maybe it was just a bad match with he Widow having a constant pocket Mercy.

I just really need to get better with those shurikens.
I'm a good Genji but even I can't take out a good widowmaker consistently, that combo doesn't kill her and she has plenty of things to escape.

This is how it goes against a good one:

1) I do the combo,
2) she is low on health but starts moving towards a health pack.
3) I have no dash, she drops a mine then uses her submachine gun while hopping around damaging me.
4) If I am lucky I manage to get her with deflect otherwise now I am low on health too as well as out of dash and deflect.
5) At this point either my shurikens get her, or her submchine gun gets me, or she gets backup that kills me or here's the worst one....she just goes far away with her grapple and I have no dash left to chase her or get out so as to heal.

The submachinegun is too good of a secondary weapon for a long range specialist.
 

Alex

Member
Attacking on Hanamura really is the worst. Map needs a complete overhaul.

The strategy that I've seen work best is not fighting through the gate. Use characters like Winston, Pharah, Tracer to nullify their fortifications. While their attention is split the less mobile characters can just walk through. If enough people are still alive they'll be so focused on the control point, those respawning can keep strolling their way through. Same with Anubis, don't respect the gate
 

Angel_DvA

Member
Just ended a match against 3 symatra cheaters on PS4 which where using an exploit with their turrets behind a wall in Dorado, they looks to be proud too...

I hope Blizzard will do something against cheaters on console too.
 
Does Zarya's shield have a certain amount of damage it can take before it pops? I always thought it just lasts X seconds, and the more damage it takes the more powerful she gets.
 

LiK

Member
Just ended a match against 3 symatra cheaters on PS4 which where using an exploit with their turrets behind a wall in Dorado, they looks to be proud too...

I hope Blizzard will do something against cheaters on console too.

What exploit?
 

RedFury

Member
Anyone have a good control mapping for genji? Would like to easily double jump and climb walls while maintaining accuracy instead of trying to hit X to jump. It also needs to have all skills readily available.
Thinking about putting one of the skills or L3 or R3 and punch/hit with face button.
 

Klyka

Banned
I play on console, but two changes really helped my genji game.
First, change the reticle from the default to the cross (or the dot). Also, change the color to yellow or green, which makes it pop a lot more.
Second, if you're on console, map jump to left bumper. This enables you to be very mobile and aim while you're jumping and climbing. As a side note, I also map jump to left bumper on Lucio as it makes wall running much easier.

I am on PC, but yeah I have been using bright green cross on all characters since first day open beta :)
 
Trying to gauge a little interest here. PS4 Overwatch GAF - This Saturday, I have absolutely, positively nothing required of me. I want to take advantage of this by doing nothing but play Overwatch.

What I'd like to do is create a rolling GAF Group ALL DAY. As people have to leave, more people can fill the spots. Ideally, we'd have a constant full or near-full group.

Mics would be ideal. We can create a PS Party Chat and just let people join up.

Casual play for the most part. We would still want to win. We can try out weird strategies, daydrunk goof games, tryhard lineups, whatever.

So yeah, anyone down for this? An all day GAF group?
 

PAULINK

I microwave steaks.
This happened on brawl last night

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darklin0

Banned
So every tank survives at full health except for Zarya. Good to know. I'll still stick them when I get the chance just because that's still a lot of damage (and I NEED that adorable spray), plus how often are tanks at full health anyway?
My Lucío says hello. :D
 
What exploit?

There is a wall near one of the the payload's first chokepoints, where the map geometry seams don't line up 100%, and you can place symmetra's turrets inside the wall, making them impossible to damage, but they can shoot outside the walls.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Just ended a match against 3 symatra cheaters on PS4 which where using an exploit with their turrets behind a wall in Dorado, they looks to be proud too...

I hope Blizzard will do something against cheaters on console too.

What exploit?
And do you consider exploits the same as cheating?
As in do you want them to ban the players rather than just fixing the exploit?
 

Klyka

Banned
I'm a good Genji but even I can't take out a good widowmaker consistently, that combo doesn't kill her and she has plenty of things to escape.

This is how it goes against a good one:

1) I do the combo,
2) she is low on health but starts moving towards a health pack.
3) I have no dash, she drops a mine then uses her submachine gun while hopping around damaging me.
4) If I am lucky I manage to get her with deflect otherwise now I am low on health too as well as out of dash and deflect.
5) At this point either my shurikens get her, or her submchine gun gets me, or she gets backup that kills me or here's the worst one....she just goes far away with her grapple and I have no dash left to chase her or get out so as to heal.

The submachinegun is too good of a secondary weapon for a long range specialist.

Yep, what you described is exactly what happened yesterday, only the Widowmaker would always have her pocket Mercy save her.

The submachinegun just makes no sense to me.
I know it's not by itself a super strong weapon compared to others, but it absolutely shreds the squishies that are Widowmakers counter.
Like Genji and Tracer just get mauled by her SMG if she hits them.

I don't quite get the decision of giving the strongest ranged character in the game an absolutely competitive close range weapon.
 

Zoracka

Member
What exploit?

The bridge before second point, there's a small gap between the underside of bridge and the house where you can place Symmetra turrets. These turrets will shoot though walls and the bridge itself (even people walking on it). The turrets can only be destroyed through the small gap, making it close to impossible to do so.

Edit: https://youtu.be/orjhz5F2l6Q (the video doesn't show how to do it, but how it affects opposing players).

Edit 2: This bug (and how to do it) was on the front page of r/Overwatch a couple of days ago, making this exploit fairly well known. Please do report players who abusive this spot.
 

DrArchon

Member
if the Zarya has a shield up it will eat the damage. It only absorbs 200 damage but a single hit above that will be fully negated (junkrat tire, D-va explosion etc).

of course if the shield is on cooldown or doesn't have the presence of mind to hit it on reaction, then it's still a good option.

That's a very good point. Zarya's probably the worst target for a Tracer bomb. At least the others will take some damage and won't get stronger. I'll also have to look out for a Zarya hanging back when I'm looking for other targets so she doesn't save them. At least almost no one plays Zarya from what I've seen.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Anyone have a good control mapping for genji? Would like to easily double jump and climb walls while maintaining accuracy instead of trying to hit X to jump. It also needs to have all skills readily available.
Thinking about putting one of the skills or L3 or R3 and punch/hit with face button.

Map jump to L1 and your L1 ability to X.
 
D.Va and Reinhardt will survive the bomb from full health. D.Va will also easily get away after the bomb, and Tracer's gun barely hurts her and it doesn't even tickle if at distance (due to armour).

Oh you're right. For some reason I though D.Va and Rein had 400 like Zarya. Also didn't know that about D.Va vs. Tracer - I'll have to keep that in mind next time.

That's one of the things I still need to learn about this game - which people to target when I'm playing certain characters and which ones to just run the hell away from.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
semi-related but just tried that Brawl mode in hearthstone, and its just as horrible (in my opinion of course) as the one in Overwatch. I guess I just hate random bullshit no rules I guess.

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UCBooties

Member
I know Lore is meaningless in a game like this, but after watching the shorts I just can't figure out what they're going for.

Sometimes it seems like Overwatch was disbanded 30 years ago. Do the heroes never age? The only one who looks old enough is Soldier 76 and maaaaaaaaybe McRee. Why don't they age? Or were D Va and Tracer not members of the original Overwatch?

Also, Winston says that the world needs Overwatch because of disasters and war, but that doesn't make any sense when the game is just literally them all fighting each other.

Like I said, lore doesn't matter, but I honestly don't know why they bothered. We're never even presented with the most basic framework of why we're fighting. I would honestly prefer the Team Fortress 2 rational of because they're a rival company/spy agency or something like Monday Night Combat where it's explicitly a sport.

The game itself is a ton of fun though. I wish I had some friends to play it with on PS4 though. Playing with randoms is fine most of the time, but any time I'm up against a coordinated team it's a total slaughter.
 

BigDug13

Member
The bridge before second point, there's a small gap between the underside of bridge and the house where you can place Symmetra turrets. These turrets will shoot though walls and the bridge itself (even people walking on it). The turrets can only be destroyed through the small gap, making it close to impossible to do so.

Edit: https://youtu.be/orjhz5F2l6Q (the video doesn't show how to do it, but how it affects opposing players).

Edit 2: This bug (and how to do it) was on the front page of r/Overwatch a couple of days ago, making this exploit fairly well known. Please do report players who abusive this spot.

Can Winston on the bridge be a good counter with his auto seeking gun?
 

mbpm1

Member
I know Lore is meaningless in a game like this, but after watching the shorts I just can't figure out what they're going for.

Sometimes it seems like Overwatch was disbanded 30 years ago. Do the heroes never age? The only one who looks old enough is Soldier 76 and maaaaaaaaybe McRee. Why don't they age? Or were D Va and Tracer not members of the original Overwatch?

Also, Winston says that the world needs Overwatch because of disasters and war, but that doesn't make any sense when the game is just literally them all fighting each other.

Like I said, lore doesn't matter, but I honestly don't know why they bothered. We're never even presented with the most basic framework of why we're fighting. I would honestly prefer the Team Fortress 2 rational of because they're a rival company/spy agency or something like Monday Night Combat where it's explicitly a sport.

The game itself is a ton of fun though. I wish I had some friends to play it with on PS4 though. Playing with randoms is fine most of the time, but any time I'm up against a coordinated team it's a total slaughter.

I think they said they're going to develop the story as time goes on.
 

Indignate

Member
I know Lore is meaningless in a game like this, but after watching the shorts I just can't figure out what they're going for.

Sometimes it seems like Overwatch was disbanded 30 years ago. Do the heroes never age? The only one who looks old enough is Soldier 76 and maaaaaaaaybe McRee. Why don't they age? Or were D Va and Tracer not members of the original Overwatch?

Also, Winston says that the world needs Overwatch because of disasters and war, but that doesn't make any sense when the game is just literally them all fighting each other.

If you really care go read the wiki about the Overwatch organization itself. That should be enough to answer your questions.

http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_(group)
 

Klyka

Banned
I think the lore and the gameplay are totally seperate. Like,non of the gameplay actually happens "in universe"
 

Lesath

Member
I am legit not good enough as a Genji player to easily 1v1 a Widowmaker.

I have 3 hours played as him but just have a really hard time getting his Shurikens on target.
Especially Widowmaker will just grapple away, jump around ,poison mine and keep peppering you with her SMG. You deflect the SMG for a bullet or two which makes her stop and then once it's over she'll go right back to it.

I don't know,maybe it was just a bad match with he Widow having a constant pocket Mercy.

I just really need to get better with those shurikens.

I feel like getting kills as Genji is more of a plus, though admittedly a very big plus. All that time Widowmaker is worrying about you is time she isn't spending destroying your team.
 

abundant

Member
The bridge before second point, there's a small gap between the underside of bridge and the house where you can place Symmetra turrets. These turrets will shoot though walls and the bridge itself (even people walking on it). The turrets can only be destroyed through the small gap, making it close to impossible to do so.

Edit: https://youtu.be/orjhz5F2l6Q (the video doesn't show how to do it, but how it affects opposing players).

Edit 2: This bug (and how to do it) was on the front page of r/Overwatch a couple of days ago, making this exploit fairly well known. Please do report players who abusive this spot.

Man, I hope this bug gets fixed ASAP. I love playing on Dorado, but this bug could easily make it the worst to play on.
 
What exploit?
And do you consider exploits the same as cheating?
As in do you want them to ban the players rather than just fixing the exploit?

Well, knowing how Blizzard has dealt with cheaters in the past in World of Warcraft, using wall geometry exploits, knowingly and willingly is the same as cheating to them. It isn't playing the game as they intended, and you are exploiting a bug for a competitive advantage. To me, it doesn't seem that much different than cheating. Sure, you aren't using a secondary program to exploit the game's code, but you are still knowingly using an exploit. The intent is the same either way. I wouldn't feel bad if they banned all of the people using that exploit, but they probably shouldn't do that. Unless they warn people about using it first, I don't think they have done that.

I am not saying a map bug or exploit it is the same as using a trainer, but Blizzard, in the past, has treated this the same way.
 

aeolist

Banned
i really need to train myself not to just shoot at everything i see, especially if i'm playing a flanker. i'm a pretty decent tracer but i feel i could be way more effective if i sneak around without revealing myself and assassinate people from close up instead of harrying from midrange.
 
Personally, I love sneaking in as Genji through the "window" on the upper left side of the entry way, I dash out of range from any turrets/bastions, go around back of the checkpoint and report what I see to teammates. From there, we adapt. Junkrats and Farrah's are super useful to eliminate turrets/bastions, which are always holed up there, especially in the room to the right of entrance.

If I'm playing as Symmetra on that map I'll usually coat that side of the map with turrets, for that exact reason. Usually the defending team has its eyes on the chokepoint, so I'll keep watch over that side window by myself. It's only usually a problem if two or more players attack the window at the same time (especially if a Winston gets involved) but that's reeeeeeeally rare.

It's actually quite surprising to see how often people will mindlessly charge into that wall of death at the first chokepoint.
 
I know Lore is meaningless in a game like this, but after watching the shorts I just can't figure out what they're going for.

Sometimes it seems like Overwatch was disbanded 30 years ago. Do the heroes never age? The only one who looks old enough is Soldier 76 and maaaaaaaaybe McRee. Why don't they age? Or were D Va and Tracer not members of the original Overwatch?

Also, Winston says that the world needs Overwatch because of disasters and war, but that doesn't make any sense when the game is just literally them all fighting each other.

Like I said, lore doesn't matter, but I honestly don't know why they bothered. We're never even presented with the most basic framework of why we're fighting. I would honestly prefer the Team Fortress 2 rational of because they're a rival company/spy agency or something like Monday Night Combat where it's explicitly a sport.

The game itself is a ton of fun though. I wish I had some friends to play it with on PS4 though. Playing with randoms is fine most of the time, but any time I'm up against a coordinated team it's a total slaughter.
It's all pretty straightforward if you just read the stuff they've released
 
I know Lore is meaningless in a game like this, but after watching the shorts I just can't figure out what they're going for.

Sometimes it seems like Overwatch was disbanded 30 years ago. Do the heroes never age? The only one who looks old enough is Soldier 76 and maaaaaaaaybe McRee. Why don't they age? Or were D Va and Tracer not members of the original Overwatch?

Also, Winston says that the world needs Overwatch because of disasters and war, but that doesn't make any sense when the game is just literally them all fighting each other.

Like I said, lore doesn't matter, but I honestly don't know why they bothered. We're never even presented with the most basic framework of why we're fighting. I would honestly prefer the Team Fortress 2 rational of because they're a rival company/spy agency or something like Monday Night Combat where it's explicitly a sport.

I'm pretty sure a lot of the characters were not part of the Original Overwatch. A lot of them appear to be related somehow to the original Overwatch, or are people have been tapped by the Overwatch to come in now. (Or they're part of the amorphous force of bad guys that the Overwatch needs to be brought back to stop.)

As for why they're fighting, all that's super trivial. You certainly wouldn't have the "good" guys and "bad" guys on the same team if any of it actually mattered. I doubt they ever really get into a story for this very reason. There is that "fuck the red team" comic that encapsulates that all pretty well.
 
I know Lore is meaningless in a game like this, but after watching the shorts I just can't figure out what they're going for.

Sometimes it seems like Overwatch was disbanded 30 years ago. Do the heroes never age? The only one who looks old enough is Soldier 76 and maaaaaaaaybe McRee. Why don't they age? Or were D Va and Tracer not members of the original Overwatch?

Also, Winston says that the world needs Overwatch because of disasters and war, but that doesn't make any sense when the game is just literally them all fighting each other.

Like I said, lore doesn't matter, but I honestly don't know why they bothered. We're never even presented with the most basic framework of why we're fighting. I would honestly prefer the Team Fortress 2 rational of because they're a rival company/spy agency or something like Monday Night Combat where it's explicitly a sport.

The game itself is a ton of fun though. I wish I had some friends to play it with on PS4 though. Playing with randoms is fine most of the time, but any time I'm up against a coordinated team it's a total slaughter.

The original Overwatch was 76, Reaper, Mercy, Pharah's mom, Genji, Tracer, Winston, Torbjorn, Reinhardt, Mei, and McCree. There were probably others they just aren't playable. Tracer in particular was very young and has the time shenanigans which explains her. McCree also started pretty young and was Reaper's protege. The biggest age to appearance offender is really Mercy whose like 40 something and doesn't like a day over 25. There's actually a quip about it between her and Mei. Everyone else is basically a newcomer.

Fun fact Reaper was turned into a wannabe vampire edgelord in a failed experiment by Mercy. Mercy kind of has a Doctor Frakenstein thing going on. She botched the Reaper things and turned a near death Genji into a cyborg ninja without his consent. Apparently he was super bitter about it until he met Zenyatta.

Edit: Genji, Tracer, McCree, Mei, and maybe Winston came to the program later.
 

jacobs34

Member
There is a wall near one of the the payload's first chokepoints, where the map geometry seams don't line up 100%, and you can place symmetra's turrets inside the wall, making them impossible to damage, but they can shoot outside the walls.

Yeah. I've already come across this a couple of times, it's amazing how fast people pick up these exploits. We won both games though.
 

Tawpgun

Member
I have a health question.

What's the deal with regular health, armor, and shields.

Is one type more resistant to certain attacks?
 
I have a health question.

What's the deal with regular health, armor, and shields.

Is one type more resistant to certain attacks?

I think armour is more resistant to bullets, and shields more resistant to things like Winstons or Symetra's primary. But I could be wrong.

Edit: It seems I was wrong.
 
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