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[Kayo Police]

Small rant. Please excuse me.

So earlier I was invited to play some group games with my friend's cousin and his group of friends.

Never before have I wished I was playing with Randoms as much as I was then.

It literally was the first time I ever have experience the "casual" mindset that I often hear about but never really experienced 1st hand, most GAF groups and my IRL friends group take this game's meta pretty seriously. (No that doesn't mean I'm amazing or anything, I consider myself pretty bad.)

These people had no idea on proper team comp/tiers/meta, would instantly switch characters upon each death, thought stacking Heroes was the key to success and thought Elims/Medals/Achievements(Fucking REALLy?!) were more important than objectives. Yet whine and moaned when we lost.

I don't think we ever had a successful group push as everyone was trying to play Hero ball and chase down elims. I have to ask, do the majority of people who play this share a similar mindset?

I just don't get it, To me winning is fun, grinding the red team into the dirt is fun, seeing the other team all leave is fun. Complete Global Saturation is fun.

I don't understand Gaf, I just don't understand.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

I've found Genji to be way more annoying than Tracer. Jumping bean POS.

Actually, Tracer's movement is usually easier for me to figure out, so yeah. Genji is a real pain.

 

[MarioHead3]

I've found Genji to be way more annoying than Tracer. Jumping bean POS.

Go Mei or Winston and laugh maniacally as he struggles to escape certain death.

 

[Kayo Police]

Go Mei or Winston and laugh maniacally as he struggles to escape certain death.

I always laugh when I see a Genji try to reflect Wintson/Sym/Zarya's beams before death.

 

[DrArchon]

I understand why Reinhardt's ult charges as fast as it does, but it's really annoying to try to fight Reinhardt and have him slam on the "I win" button. Normally Reinhardt is easy prey on KOTH maps with Reaper, but it seems like more often then not he hits Q and I lose.

Also fuck Torbjorn's ult while I'm at it. That's the real "I win" button, except it charges slower and it wins 1v5 instead of just 1v1. I stood in front of his turret and went Whole Hog with Roadhog, but then Torb just turns on Molten Core and I die without even cutting the turret's health in half. Unbelievable.

 

[Pancakes]

FFS matchmaking, when I leave a match I want to stay gone. 3 times I get placed with the same horrible teammates because of matchmaking.

 

[Nocturnowl]

I think generally there are a few heroes people just dislike, including Mei. I've noticed when the cards come up at the end of the match Mei never gets votes, neither do fan the hammer McCree's nor turret kill Torbjorns. How generally irritating and anti-fun those characters can be causes the community to see them differently.

From playing with my friends I can confirm that Torb Turrets, McCree fans and maybe Bastion kills/damage dealt tend to get ignored in favour of anything else.

As for Mei, with us it's usually just a case where she only ever gets enemy frozen time cards which never sound particularly impressive when stacked against everything else. The game can be odd like this with some characters, like when I have a great Zen game with gold medals galore but they present a card of miniscule transcendence healing as my contribution.

My team loves me when I play Mei.

It's all fun and games until you're the one frozen with the cranium icicle incoming.

 

[MarioHead3]

Small rant.

Anything can work if you play a bad enough team. I'm also guessing they think this is like a fighting game in which any character can beat any other in theory.

 

[ramyeon]

That's kind of the exact thing you want though isn't it?

Couple of times I have to type "Stop chasing that goddamn genji/tracer"

Yeah pretty much. I tend to target the Reinhardt from the get go, zipping around and behind him. Kind of acting like a fly they want to squat. Must really infuriate a lot of people to the point they stop shielding their team mates and run around trying to wack me. Good times

 

[MarioHead3]

Yeah pretty much. I tend to target the Reinhardt from the get go, zipping around and behind him. Kind of acting like a fly they want to squat. Must really infuriate a lot of people to the point they stop shielding their team mates and run around trying to wack me. Good times

I've had times where half the enemy team was preoccupied trying to kill me as Tracer.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

I understand why Reinhardt's ult charges as fast as it does, but it's really annoying to try to fight Reinhardt and have him slam on the "I win" button. Normally Reinhardt is easy prey on KOTH maps with Reaper, but it seems like more often then not he hits Q and I lose.

Also fuck Torbjorn's ult while I'm at it. That's the real "I win" button, except it charges slower and it wins 1v5 instead of just 1v1. I stood in front of his turret and went Whole Hog with Roadhog, but then Torb just turns on Molten Core and I die without even cutting the turret's health in half. Unbelievable.

Honestly I think a lot of the ults are "i win " buttons. A lot of nicely timed ults can really clear the way to the objective or repel the attackers when you're about to lose.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Genji is pretty damn easy to deal with as mei from my experience. It is pretty funny to see them panic reflect her ice beam. Tracers think that they're so cute being able to phase out of freeze, but now I just icicle them. So much fun to predict where they'll zip to only to fall down dead with an icicle at the back of their heads.

 

[Gryph]

Honestly I think a lot of the ults are "i win " buttons. A lot of nicely timed ults can really clear the way to the objective or repel the attackers when you're about to lose.

Ult management really is the name of the game... People who can coordinate and bank ults properly with their team are the ones who will go on to do well in ranked...

 

[Seductivpancakes]

Ult management really is the name of the game... People who can coordinate and bank ults properly with their team are the ones who will go on to do well in ranked...

Agreed. Whenever I playing with a zarya, I keep an eye out for her ult so I can combo it with mine.

 

[Xeteh]

Small rant. Please excuse me.

So earlier I was invited to play some group games with my friend's cousin and his group of friends.

Never before have I wished I was playing with Randoms as much as I was then.

It literally was the first time I ever have experience the "casual" mindset that I often hear about but never really experienced 1st hand, most GAF groups and my IRL friends group take this game's meta pretty seriously. (No that doesn't mean I'm amazing or anything, I consider myself pretty bad.)

These people had no idea on proper team comp/tiers/meta, would instantly switch characters upon each death, thought stacking Heroes was the key to success and thought Elims/Medals/Achievements(Fucking REALLy?!) were more important than objectives. Yet whine and moaned when we lost.

I don't think we ever had a successful group push as everyone was trying to play Hero ball and chase down elims. I have to ask, do the majority of people who play this share a similar mindset?

I just don't get it, To me winning is fun, grinding the red team into the dirt is fun, seeing the other team all leave is fun. Complete Global Saturation is fun.

I don't understand Gaf, I just don't understand.

Yeah, I get what you're talking about. I played the other night with my brother and a friend of his from CS:GO. His friend was alright but we were also playing with this guy's dad and he picked Mei every single game and I love me some Mei, I play her as much as I can. He was awful, I can't tell you how many times my hooks on Roadhog or shots on other characters got blocked because he basically would cast Wall on cooldown. Anytime we'd kill their team to clear the point "I killed everyone, we're good"... dude, there's 3 other people here, "ELIMINATED" doesn't mean you killed them. I know it doesn't matter but people taking credit for every little thing drives me up a wall.

I'm fine if people aren't really good, its fine. We all sucked at a game at one point... its alright... It drives me up a wall when people are bad but think they're great, they aren't thinking about improving, they just blame the people around them.

 

[SeanR1221]

McCree masters help me. I want to do better with him, but I feel like I die really fast and I'm not effective.

I try and stay at a medium range near tank or support.
I'm not holding down the fire button and instead taking deliberate shots.
I feel like I have a good handle on his stun.

But I'm doing terrible

 

[Vital Tundra]

McCree masters help me. I want to do better with him, but I feel like I die really fast and I'm not effective.

I try and stay at a medium range near tank or support.
I'm not holding down the fire button and instead taking deliberate shots.
I feel like I have a good handle on his stun.

But I'm doing terrible

Hallways and tight spaces are your friend for taking out anyone who isn't a tank. When firing don't click but hold the mouse as it will help you focus on aiming and not adjusting do to your finger presses. When they get close flash and fan, if you miss or don't kill them, roll and fan again. Thats basically McCree. Other than that, just practice.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

McCree masters help me. I want to do better with him, but I feel like I die really fast and I'm not effective.

I try and stay at a medium range near tank or support.
I'm not holding down the fire button and instead taking deliberate shots.
I feel like I have a good handle on his stun.

But I'm doing terrible

McCree is a close range character not mid since he has a fair amount of damage drop off. Sounds like the way you are playing him you might be better off with Soldier 76. Staying near the support is a proper way to play him since his primary job is to protect them from characters like Tracer and Genji but most people will flank for surprise high noons and camp doorways with his flashbang.

 

[Ramirez]

Amateur hour over here. Should be public now.

Edit: link again
GAF V GAF - Overwatch Gameplay

Had no idea you were Dakar, lol.

I really wish consoles could get their own thread when OW moves to community.

 

[aeolist]

Team doesn't pick tank

Team won't use me as a tank when I pick tank

Oh well

this is why i never pick rein

 

[orthodoxy1095]

McCree masters help me. I want to do better with him, but I feel like I die really fast and I'm not effective.

I try and stay at a medium range near tank or support.
I'm not holding down the fire button and instead taking deliberate shots.
I feel like I have a good handle on his stun.

But I'm doing terrible

I agree with More Fun. It sounds like you're playing McCree more like Soldier 76. Adjust to some closer range tactics.

 

[mbpm1]

Anything can work if you play a bad enough team. I'm also guessing they think this is like a fighting game in which any character can beat any other in theory.

Well that still holds true technically.

Teams tho, that's different

 

[LiK]

McCree masters help me. I want to do better with him, but I feel like I die really fast and I'm not effective.

I try and stay at a medium range near tank or support.
I'm not holding down the fire button and instead taking deliberate shots.
I feel like I have a good handle on his stun.

But I'm doing terrible

stun/fan combo.

 

[cHinzo]

These double Tracers, jesus. Literally worse than McCree.

 

[Papercuts]

Starting the day getting steam rolled by an all soldier team. great.

 

[Xeteh]

Starting the day getting steam rolled by an all soldier team. great.

idk what it is about gimmick teams lately, but I've seen more in the last couple days than I've seen since the game launched.

 

[Blizzard]

These double Tracers, jesus. Literally worse than McCree.

I'd rather be stun-mccree'd any day than face a single Tracer, let alone two. I feel like there are 1-2 Tracers in most of my games now, too.

By the way, about the 50% matchmaking goal, I'm so bad the game can't compensate. With 356 games played I only have a 47.2% win record.

 

[Antiwhippy]

These double Tracers, jesus. Literally worse than McCree.

I've face a couple of really good tracer/genji team ups that pretty much made me go mccree to deal with them.

Which is a bad idea because I barely play him so I'm not actually good with him, but god almighty man. Good tracer/genji teamups are hella annoying.

On the other hand I think I'll play mccree more now because he's really fun. I'm really bad with him though.

Also got that fly yellow suit on him so that's pretty cool too. It's actually kinda bad how epic skins influence who I play. Wouldn't play junkrat, reaper or mccree if I didn't get their epic skins.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

I keep getting into games with my team already on the brink of losing and I don't feel inclined to try.

 

[LiK]

Double Tracers ain't too bad. Counter with Pharah or Junkrat. Double Mei is where it feels like hell.

 

[Antiwhippy]

With how hard a good tracer is to hit I'm not sure if pharah or junkrat are the best counters.

Double mei is easy to counter though.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Double Tracers ain't too bad. Counter with Pharah or Junkrat. Double Mei is where it feels like hell.

Yea if your Meis can aim and use those skills pretty well...good hero in pubs.

 

[Nickle]

Double Tracers ain't too bad. Counter with Pharah or Junkrat. Double Mei is where it feels like hell.

Counter with Pharah or Junkrat

Spoiler

no /s

 

[LiK]

Yea if your Meis can aim and use those skills pretty well...good hero in pubs.

And constantly spamming their walls. Ugh, it's a pain in the ass.

 

[MartyStu]

Just recently added Reinhardt and Bastion to my repertoire of characters.

Rein is great in pubs when your team is too stupid to realize that moving the payload may actually be more important than hunting down the opposing team.

And Bastion...this dude is really fun to play if you are careful to consistently rotate you position and not try to outshoot people targeting you. People expect Bastion to stupidly sit around and and just turret all day. In the same spot.

And I know it is blasphemous, but he is often very useful on attack when you want to create enough chaos to allow your team to gain a footing on assault maps.

 

[mbpm1]

I don't think Pharah or Jrat are the best for Tracer

 

[LiK]

I don't think Pharah or Jrat are the best for Tracer

Works for me. I'm sure other people have their own counters.

I also use Roadhog sometimes.

 

[ElyrionX]

I love this game, but here is my experience: I find a pub. Everyone has chosen Widow/Hanzo/Mei/McCree, regardless of the map. I choose either Lucio/Mercy or a Reinhardt, because the team obv needs both. We get rolled because I and MAYBE one other player are actually on the point. Redo.

It happens all the damn time. People don't want to group up. Everyone wants to flank or backstab to get the kills. This is also why I don't play tanks. You never know whether your team will be around to support you or not.

The worst is being invited to a group and finding out that the group has zero coordination and teamwork. Everyone just does their own shit and refuses to group up. Might as go with pubs then.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

I love playing Tracer.

Also, I feel like I'm a boss with Roadhog against Tracer. I probably have about 75% hook accuracy against Tracer.

I'm not claiming to be good - at all. But man, I feel on point with these two.

 

[Xeteh]

I love playing Tracer.

Also, I feel like I'm a boss with Roadhog against Tracer. I probably have about 75% hook accuracy against Tracer.

I'm not claiming to be good - at all. But man, I feel on point with these two.

Roadhog is my second most played hero and he's my favorite counter for Tracer. Its not like she's free to hooks but when that hook lands you know she's dead (barring any bad hook pathing). As someone who has played a shitload of Mercy, killing Tracers will never not feel great.

 

[veloxStrix]

I can't wait for Comp. I get into this competitive mindset after a while and then end up with a group who is just fucking around - bam, insta-salt.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

I don't think Pharah or Jrat are the best for Tracer

I think winston is best bet.

 

[FiggyCal]

I had a level 90 Lucio on my team who just refused to heal. He was on speed boost the whole game. I switched to Lucio for the last 3 minutes and I got gold healing.

Maybe if you just got the game. But level 90? Come on...

 

[MartyStu]

I had a level 90 Lucio on my team who just refused to heal. He was on speed boost the whole game. I switched to Lucio for the last 3 minutes and I got gold healing.

Maybe if just got the game. But level 90? Come on...

Lucio is weird in that he can be played almost as a straight up assault character if your aim is good enough. I suppose that is what he was doing.

 

[exfatal]

Man i played some awesome random games today was on fire, and then got my loot box was like the game new i was doing good and rewarded me.

my 3rd legendary skin thus far

 

[Antiwhippy]

I did run into that team mei at hanamura point A where they are constantly icewalling. Wasn't that bad really. Just fly up with pharah and hit everyone with rockets. Point B where they changed out to something else was the true hell though. Didn't realise how effective roadhog is at that top window.

Lucio is weird in that he can be played almost as a straight up assault character if your aim is good enough. I suppose that is what he was doing.

His gun is too weak and slow to outgun anyone who knows what they're doing though. I always found it best as a supplement to a group assault.

 

[bearythebear]

Nothing makes me happier than getting a double kill as Mercy vs Genji and Tracer. People always underestimate aggressive Mercy.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

3rd legendary McCree skin. I don't even play McCree.

Meanwhile I haven't even gotten a 75c skin drop for my boy Zenyatta

 

[MartyStu]

I did run into that team mei at hanamura point A where they are constantly icewalling. Wasn't that bad really. Just fly up with pharah and hit everyone with rockets. Point B where they changed out to something else was the true hell though. Didn't realise how effective roadhog is at that top window.



His gun is too weak and slow to outgun anyone who knows what they're doing though. I always found it best as a supplement to a group assault.

Oh yeah, I definitely did not mean to imply he should go it alone. And the best he can be is a nuisance/cleanup for others.

The point being he can be played much more 'assault-y' than all the other supports. Most games I am in now usually has a Lucio on point being a dick. Especially KOTH.

 

[rSpooky]

had my first "legendary" kudos (10 votes) last night (mercy ). everyone wanted to know what is got me.. other then a smile on my face?? nothing..lol

Still very cool to get that .