Turrets remind me a lot of Reaper, they dont actually kill you, they just finish you off because you were low health from some other engagement. You won't die full health from going around a corner and getting shot by a turret, like you do with snipers for example.
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I've been playing him a lot lately because I've had too much Winston and yes he is insanely fun. But he can also be insanely frustrating. When you hit that hook but don't get the kill, or worse, GET killed yourself....RWAAAAAAARRRRRGGGG.
He's worth it tho. The way he plays is awesome. He's like a wall the other team has to get past. He seems like one of the more situational heroes though, I feel like playing him in some situations (certain stages, attack) isn't the right thing to do. But I do it anyway.
The bolded is honestly the biggest breakdown for alot of stuff in the thread I think. The game is a different beast on consoles then it is on PC. Maybe there is something lost in translation for alot of people here......
People fear a widow on PC, nobody actually fears a widow on console. Certain characters will just flow different on one side then the others. I actually don't actually think Blizz considered that in some cases.
lucebuce12
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I can avoid a turret as a Mercy, can't avoid a reaper.
Incendiary
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Yeah - I know it's my own fault if I don't kill Junkrat, but it said I killed the tire.
Junkrat clearly defies laws of physics.
orthodoxy1095
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Don't go for max coverage. For example, a good turret placement is not one with 100% coverage of an objective.A friend of mine tried playing Torb and was getting discouraged because of how easily the turrets die. It's tough for new players to keep them alive and make them useful apparently.Any tips?
It's not worth them getting destroyed so easily. Their job is to finish off kills, not completely kill people on their own.
Instead, put them in a place with a focused area of fire, with decent cover, making them harder to kill. Then make up for the lack of turret coverage by moving around yourself and dealing with enemies. Torb's gun is great, and the shotgun mode is particularly stupendous.
Also, if it goes down, just put up a new one. If you can fix it, fine, but don't worry if it is being destroyed.
EDIT: This is how to effectively use a turret: https://gfycat.com/AptBadDuiker
Torb: ABF. Always Be Flanking
BreezyLimbo
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It's actually a weird design issue.
When Junkrat uses his tire, the one it spawns isn't the one that rolls. You can notice this by playing as Junkrat, and when you put down the tire it will 'blink' before it starts moving. So in reality, there are two tires-The one he spawns to do the animation of him launching it, and the one that actually rolls around.
I always wondered why the tire would 'blink' out of existence before actually starting to roll, and this confirms it~
What happens there is that Genji kills the one used for the animation of Junkrat launching it before it 'blinked' into the real tire.
RandomExpletive
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A friend of mine tried playing Torb and was getting discouraged because of how easily the turrets die. It's tough for new players to keep them alive and make them useful apparently.
I throw it down near my team or behind them to cover us while we hold a choke point. If the enemy is focused on you and not the turret, you'll get good damage output behind what your rivet gun can do (which is a lot, right click decimates tanks). Don't be afraid to move it to another location if you think it'll have good coverage and theres a bit of downtime to get it set up.
I've had times where the whole enemy team is on the point and its just me and another teammate to hold them off. If you drop a level 1 and run in, as long as they focus you and not the turret, thats good damage you can put out, even with a level one. Sometimes that distraction is enough to get reinforcements to the point, and you can fall back or re-spawn and go re-set your turret or upgrade it. Ideally though you could just molten core a level 2 and win the defense every time
Go for headshots, that rivet gun does good damage. And again, that right click is NASTY up close
Sir Griffith
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Hard to think of something more satisfying than charging a Gengi / Bastion / Reaper after popping their ult. Maybe environmental kills with Lucio / Pharah
orthodoxy1095
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Gremlin D.Va is the real queen of Overwatch.
Put it up somewhere new. It's a real amateur move to put it back up in the same place where they'll look for it.
Actually this is key and why I always remind people that it's ok to let your turret get destroyed.
Put it up somewhere new. It's a real amateur move to put it back up in the same place where they'll look for it.
Damn, a 25 minute match. I've never had one last anywhere near that long. That must have felt great to win.
There are always people with magical versions of a game with issues
This is what it's like for everyone I know: https://youtu.be/0MgzgK2Eky8
Yep this is slowly taking me away from the game. Winston is one of the heroes that gets it the worst. There has been dozens of times when I jumped away from danger long ago and then I die and in the kill cam I never even started the jump. Widowmaker is another because I swear I sometimes have my crosshair directly in the enemy's head and I still land no hit.
Gremlin D.Va is the real queen of Overwatch.
Actually this is key and why I always remind people that it's ok to let your turret get destroyed.
Put it up somewhere new. It's a real amateur move to put it back up in the same place where they'll look for it.
Same for snipers actually
Bastions ruined my fun, two of them and our two genji's running around couldn't quite do it.
We had a fun weird game in Hollywood defense against 5ish D.va's and a Lucio i think, I'm trying to get better at aiming with Hanzo but it's still not great, luckily they are large targets.
We had a fun weird game in Hollywood defense against 5ish D.va's and a Lucio i think, I'm trying to get better at aiming with Hanzo but it's still not great, luckily they are large targets.
orthodoxy1095
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they can make a game mode for it.
Antiwhippy
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Have a rein, stand behind the shield and shoot out the turrets.
Done.
It seriously does pretty petty damage against his shield.
LurkerPrime
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Presumably all of the Toblerones will be firing at a Reinhardt at the gates, plus their turrets. Though, if that's true then a D.va and Reaper flanking them, or a Bastion set-up behind the shield, could do decent damage to them, I think. Other characters would support the push, snipers or Pharah + support. Take out half of them and they'd never have enough time to set back up before you could demolish the rest.
Gimmick builds like that are really tough to beat without teamwork. I've only faced an Toblerone gimmick build once, and it wasn't pretty.
what do i do
Each Torb does 100 dps in non-shotgun mode, even more in shotgun mode. 600 dps plus 6 turrets of damage. That shield isn't magic. And guaranteed one of those Torbs have molten core for double dps on turret and Torb.
The turrets themselves might not do that much damage but Torbs are a fairly damaging class on their own without turret.
Each death drops scrap for all 6 torbs. They have so much armor laying around, they basically keep healing themselves for 75. It's a tough break up without ults.
LurkerPrime
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Self-Destruct has a huge radius, but if you're behind any wall you're perfectly safe. The same is true for enemies.
So boosting it in (protip: you can activate it after boosting) to surprise the enemy is the best deployment method.
Antiwhippy
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And the people behind your shield should be able to do even more damage, plus buy enough time to scatter to various spots to take out turrets and torbs from the backline. Hell, have a widow or two just behind your shield should be able to take care of it in 2 shield cycles, and that's assuming that the flankers who are pretty good with turrets (d.va, genji) aren't pulling their own weight.
Play him like a big tracer. Don't bite off my than you can chew. Get in and out of a situation. He's a tank that's suppose to take people by surprise.
Your jump comes back really fast and that's super crucial to use.
Soldier is a hell of a lot of fun. He's my goto offense guy and I've been playing him more and more. Surprised on how fun they've made a character who is seemingly so basic.
And his ultimate is one of the most fun and satisfying in the game. I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS.
katsubento
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What happens if Rein and D.Va charge at the same time towards each other head on? D.Va still gets pinned?
It requires tight coordination against a stacked class that could be fully PUG level with zero coordination. It's tough.
i learned the hard way that she still gets pinned
katsubento
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Thanks.
LurkerPrime
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Rein wins and pins. If Rein charges another charging Rein, they stun eachother.
D.va's boost isn't really an attack, more of a mobility thing. It deals 50-ish damage, but merely bumps them.
Officer.Sanchez
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With enough gold to complete my Mercy
Symmetra is next
Symmetra is next
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Eh, thems the breaks I guess, but I generally find that people nowadays tend to know what to swtich into even on pubs.
Bumps people off cliffs pretty well though!
SkullHydra
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Two days in a row of nothing but losses. Man, feels bad.
One of the best parts of Roadhog is you can instantly shut down some of the most powerful ults in the game.
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