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Overwatch |OT3| White, White, Blue, White
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TheAngryMonkey
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How would teams of 2-5 find matches in such a system?
old manatee
Banned
ps4 Overwatch is back up for me.
Ravensmash
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Same here - UK.
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Find/get more teammates
orthodoxy1095
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People generally seem pretty amicable about losses as long as you're communicating and actually trying your best. ¯|_(ツ
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Got my first sextuple kill. Was playing Reaper in a competitive match. We were on defense (Gibraltar) and pretty much steamrolling the other team. Finally they got their act together and grouped up for a big push and started moving the payload. I dropped down behind them and did the Reaper Ballerina. Killed their entire team.
Next match we had to attack. They kept stalling our team, but twice I moved in, cleaned house without even using the my ult and pushed the payload for the win. People on voice chat were chanting my name. Felt like some sort of ESL league player.
Of course, that was followed by 4 defeats, two were very close games and I didn't mind since they were at least fun and balanced. 3rd loss was because of a leaver 2 minutes in right after we wrested the point away from the enemy team on a KoH. 4th match wasn't even close, balanced MM my ass, we never even got out of our spawn doors. Went from 36 to 40 to 37 before calling it a night.
As for leavers I dunno. It happens less than it does in quick play, but still too often. Of course you notice it more because it won't backfill in competitive. I'm not sure increasing penalties will help, cause that might just result in people getting screwed.
For example, the other day, I got kicked twice out of competitive matches with friends because of the loading bug, where it takes a million years to load the map for no reason and you get kicked. This happened twice in a row after restarting Overwatch. Then one the 3rd try it worked for me, but hit another team-mate. Frustrating. I wouldn't want to see people get penalized for bugs or disconnects.
Next match we had to attack. They kept stalling our team, but twice I moved in, cleaned house without even using the my ult and pushed the payload for the win. People on voice chat were chanting my name. Felt like some sort of ESL league player.
Of course, that was followed by 4 defeats, two were very close games and I didn't mind since they were at least fun and balanced. 3rd loss was because of a leaver 2 minutes in right after we wrested the point away from the enemy team on a KoH. 4th match wasn't even close, balanced MM my ass, we never even got out of our spawn doors. Went from 36 to 40 to 37 before calling it a night.
As for leavers I dunno. It happens less than it does in quick play, but still too often. Of course you notice it more because it won't backfill in competitive. I'm not sure increasing penalties will help, cause that might just result in people getting screwed.
For example, the other day, I got kicked twice out of competitive matches with friends because of the loading bug, where it takes a million years to load the map for no reason and you get kicked. This happened twice in a row after restarting Overwatch. Then one the 3rd try it worked for me, but hit another team-mate. Frustrating. I wouldn't want to see people get penalized for bugs or disconnects.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I still think Hanamura is one of the worst. I feel like I only ever steamroll or get steamrolled there. Having a long, satisfying and tense fight seems rare.
In fact the only one that comes to mind is the long win I had last night lol.
Teasing_Pink
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This was happening on the PS4 as well last night.
I find the first point falls quickly and sometimes that can snowball the second within a minute but if it doesnt you get these really cool pushes and defences that go to the wire.
competitive sucks, you lose, the game makes you feel like complete shit by dropping all that progress at once, you win, you gain a tiny bar. lol. It doesn't matter how well you played either, if you had a troll mei on your team or someone dc'd you're still punished all the same. C'mon, give some sense of gratification to people for not messing up the games, it's so terrible right now.
They need to come up with a solo ranked and a separate team ranked. Current system is fine for full teams but solo q is a miserable experience. I'm not going to waste time playing this mode much as it is, there are many frustrating things about it. Like HotS has two separate ranked modes, they're already copying the ranked mode from there, why not take everything.
I'm going to stick to occasional quick play until next season, it's a waste of time right now, forever stuck in 40-50 hell. I'm not sure why people just don't play that if they don't want to actually try and win and just come to ranked to ruin the game for everyone. Sometimes it works and you see great people an it feels great but all of that can go out of the door in the next game and you lose more than you gained.
One thing is for certain, they need to up the level requirement a lot so that you can make sure whoever is matched has a basic understanding of the game, that level 40 something guy that doesn't know the game well yet isn't going to do as well as the prestige guys. I don't care about your skill rating and if they're close, that guy with more levels has more experience with the game and has dedicated a lot of time, that counts for a lot, it doesn't mean they are great players but at least know how things work by now, this game isn't just about pointing and shooting. When you get players with supposedly 50+ skill rating that keep feeding Zarya energy, can't deal with a rein+bastion or shoot into genji reflect, they are clearly not good enough as they don't know the game's mechanics well yet, yet somehow they get some k/d and got placed here.
Someone who started playing 3 days ago has a hidden skill rating that can go up and down a lot quickly too as the system adjusts over more games. I don't care about wait times, I go to ranked I expect to get a good match not a quick match, there is another mode for that.
They need to come up with a solo ranked and a separate team ranked. Current system is fine for full teams but solo q is a miserable experience. I'm not going to waste time playing this mode much as it is, there are many frustrating things about it. Like HotS has two separate ranked modes, they're already copying the ranked mode from there, why not take everything.
I'm going to stick to occasional quick play until next season, it's a waste of time right now, forever stuck in 40-50 hell. I'm not sure why people just don't play that if they don't want to actually try and win and just come to ranked to ruin the game for everyone. Sometimes it works and you see great people an it feels great but all of that can go out of the door in the next game and you lose more than you gained.
One thing is for certain, they need to up the level requirement a lot so that you can make sure whoever is matched has a basic understanding of the game, that level 40 something guy that doesn't know the game well yet isn't going to do as well as the prestige guys. I don't care about your skill rating and if they're close, that guy with more levels has more experience with the game and has dedicated a lot of time, that counts for a lot, it doesn't mean they are great players but at least know how things work by now, this game isn't just about pointing and shooting. When you get players with supposedly 50+ skill rating that keep feeding Zarya energy, can't deal with a rein+bastion or shoot into genji reflect, they are clearly not good enough as they don't know the game's mechanics well yet, yet somehow they get some k/d and got placed here.
Someone who started playing 3 days ago has a hidden skill rating that can go up and down a lot quickly too as the system adjusts over more games. I don't care about wait times, I go to ranked I expect to get a good match not a quick match, there is another mode for that.
orthodoxy1095
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I agree that if the first point falls quick, you can steamroll the second.
I cannot honestly remember many cool pushes and defenses on that map. I hate pushing through that gate, and I hate how limited it all feels in comparison to other maps.
TheAngryMonkey
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Just isn't realistic though. You're saying quick play for everyone and if you to do competitive mode you better have a team of 6 or GTFO. I'm as salty as the next guy about losing matches but I gathered a team of 6 and continued to lose.
TheAngryMonkey
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Getting the same as well as a flickering black box in the center
ScaryShark
Banned
People in competitive are just as dumb as normal. In my FIRST game I had 3 bastions and a Torbjorn on defense and two Bastions on attack. LEL XD So0o0o0o0 randum an FUNNI though!!!11
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
Good to see Blizzard is permanently banning players who exploit the server crashing bug in competitive.
Maybe iv missed something, but that will quickly solve itselfe with ranked playlist.
if your a level 20 who suck, you will get a low rank in competetive, and play against/with people who also suck.
If your a level 20 thats a world class player, you will get a high rank, and play against/with the best in the game
Newtype-001
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It was meant to be fixed they said 😖
Darryl M R
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Is there a GAF PS4 group/discord?
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Yup noticed all this today
Permanently A
Junior Member
I feel bad for people having a shitty time with comp. I'm really enjoying it. For me it's exactly what I wanted out of this game.
Permanently A
Junior Member
I really like her. Sometimes she's the only way to win, it's impossible to defend the first point on a tiebreaker match without Symmetra.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
That moment when you realise EVERY SINGLE loss you've had in competitive mode has been from a sudden death round.......
It sucks. It doesn't really give a real indication of who was the better team.
It sucks. It doesn't really give a real indication of who was the better team.
I know some opinions on Competitive Mode have been sour, but playing it with a full group is honestly the only way to play Overwatch. Went 7-3 in my placement matches with a rank of 54, and almost all ten matches were tense as hell (we won 2 sudden deaths as the Attacking Team and went to round #5 on Nepal).
Some of the best matches I had played yet. Can't wait to hop on again tonight.
Some of the best matches I had played yet. Can't wait to hop on again tonight.
N° 2048
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This, I'm done with randoms.
My hope is that in a few weeks with far more games played people are ranked more correctly but right now in placements matches it's like anything goes and that obviously bleeds into the games after placements too. That level 20 something widowmaker that doesn't give us one wallhack the entire game doesn't deserve 54 skill rating. They will lose their ranks eventually but they drag others with them too. yeah yeah, it's always "my team's fault and not mine" but right now it's absolutely a mess. There are good games to be had too when things work out, competitive is great but all of that goes away with stinkers like that and the system heavily punishes you for losing more than you gain for winning.
That's true too, there are low level players that are absolutely great but it's not all that common. it's just a decent way to filter the learning curve of the game, competitive is an awful place to start learning the game.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
The entire point of placement matches is that "anything goes", you'll get matched across the full skill range by design in order to minimize uncertainty. Besides the ranked playerbase being inflated as it's the new mode and has exclusive rewards, the main issue this season is that placement results are completely out of whack thanks to the KOTH bug. It'll take more time to settle than it would have had they not rushed ranked out, but it'll sort itself out regardless. Give it 1-2 more weeks and MM will be much more accurate.
While playing in a full group, MMR worked as intended. Not once were we matched up against another group that stood head and shoulders above us, which has been a problem in Quick Play. We were always matched up with another full group as well.
If you can get into a full group, I'm betting you'll like it.
ScaryShark
Banned
If I'm queuing in solo am I only competing against solo players or groups as well?
Full groups are doubtful, but 3 or 2 man groups could be common. You will know who is in a group at the beginning of the match. (Competitive Mode only)
Vestal
Junior Member
Placement matches are the tease before being bitch slapped by reality.
I went 7-3 in placement and came out at 52. Ranked up to 54 doing solo queue and full gaf team then got handed an entire afternoon of bad teams and ranked down to 47. last night fought back and forth in a gaf group and basically stayed at 47.
ScaryShark
Banned
Vestal
Junior Member
Dead Prince
Banned
Ps4 is up. First game on quick play. 4 bastion on defense on route 66. Lol they didn't make a dent. Terrible. We steamrolled them
Permanently A
Junior Member
For any good Mercy players here, when do you hide and let your teammates die so you can rez them, vs when do you stay on the point and heal them? I always feel like when I hide, we could have won the fight if I stayed. And when I stay and get picked off, I feel like I should have hid. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
ScaryShark
Banned
I wish I came across this on attack. That's a clown team.
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