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Lucio + McCree
You give McCree shields and then speed boost him and he can jog around while using his dead eye and being hard to kill
Pinko Marx
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It did for a while in beta. It made her absolutely dogshit worthless. They intended to revisit her but afaik that never happened.
She was like insta lock for any team when it was instant, then it had a delay and she stopped beign in the meta COMPLETELY. then it went back insta and now it's a mix of her and lucio.
I find it hard to get into a GAF group.
I just played 2.5 hours with two friends, and one of their friends as well and that was ok. We didn't coordinate much so it was not easy winnings and we lost a bunch too.
Bumbletron
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It's the same thing as with any other character. Sure people may know about the tricks, but it doesn't mean they will be able to do anything about it. If you place your turrets well, you can help to completely block off progress for your team. I like to throw a couple on the healthpack before the first King's Row objective from time to time just to ruin an enemy tracer or genji who is trying to push the point.
So when she has a delay her ult is worthless and when she doesn't have a delay her ult is unstoppable unless you manage to take her out before anyone else.
Huh.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
It's not even remotely OP, considering she's made of tissue paper, has no real defense or innate mobility and the resurrection is highly contextual for it to even be good. More often than not, the people who die are caught in some fire zone where a rez means insta death, or they've been knocked off a ledge, or killed at one point of an escort where rezzing one isn't all that great anyway. In the right set of circumstances, it's very good though.
But yeah, she already is so weak to any sort of incoming fire, so a delay would definitely make it utterly useless.
My honor resides on this gif so I went ahead and posted 10 sequential frames of the arrow travelling to the McCree.
I ain't gonna say Hanzo's arrow ain't the size of a barn, cause it is, but that shot seems pretty fair game to me for a non-hitscan weapon.
Yeah if the weapon was a true skillshot weapon, nobody would play hanzo in lower level games. Not like anyone should with widow in the game either :b
no one would play honzo at all if it was a true skillshot weapon, nobody plays hanzo with the way it is now.
I'm not saying she is OP, I am saying her ult is almost unstoppable. Not as in "it beats you" but as in "you have almost no chance of stopping it from coming out".
I have been literally inside a Mercy pouring all my damage into her as tons of characters and she will,without a fail,get her ult off.
Hanzo is a mid-range character who can snipe. He isn't Widowmaker who is a long range character (until she completely wrecks you with her SMG but whatever XD ).
Hanzo's scatter arrow aimed at the ground basically one shots any non tank hero, his sonar arrows are really helpful for advancing around corners and such (especially with MCCree in the game) while your Widowmaker ult isn't up and his arrows do a shit ton of damage even without the instakill headshots.
he is a good character, he just needs some more finesse than others.
2x Widow every. fucking. game
Yep,without fail.
I have come to just tune out the sound of her shots because otherwise that is all I would hear all game long.
I always have a bad Hanzo on my team, always.
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Hmm...nah.
It can undo a near wipe but it's not magic. Mercy and the revived people can't react immediately and you can often put her down soon after.
I'd rather go up against a team with Mercy than Lucio tbh
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, sure, I understand that. I'm just saying that's a feature, not a bug. If you could stop her highly situational ult, it'd be useless. And considering her maneuver set is to move more slowly...well, there are only so many useless abilities on a character before they become unplayable.
EDIT: Oppressive? Lol. No. Just...no.
As a person who has Tracer as their most played character, Mccree, Pharoah, Widowmaker, Roadhog are all good counters to her. Mccree can stun, Pharoah can fly and stay away from her smg while blasting her with rockets. Roadhog can hook and Widowmaker can easily sniper her since she is squishy. I have had an easier time dealing with Roadhog's hook recently but still have trouble with all the other characters.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Uh, where did I say anything about oppressive?
I didn't say you did. It was a comment that started this thread of discussion.
It's funny that you say Widowmaker counters her,which I agree with a lot, because Tracer is supposed to be a Widowmaker counter XD
Oh ok,it was just there as your edit and I had no idea what you meant.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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I like when my team have 2 or 3 widomakers, it give us more map presence
Eh tracer isn't a good widow counter, she can only get to her if she's on the ground. I'd even put soldier above tracer. That's not saying much.
I am a Genji player, have more than twice the playtime as him than my 2nd most played. And personally would not want speed boost, it messes up my movement and during his ult when it's difficult to keep track of enemies because you are so close to them it becomes even more difficult when you are moving so fast.
Not to mention the biggest flaw with speed boost is when you are around the edge of the effective area you will go from boost to no boost to boost which further messes up your play.
The only time I would want speed boost is when I have to run back to the point from spawn or want to avoid a big ult like the ones from McCree, Mei, D.Va, Hanzo, Pharah, Bastion or Roadhog.
She doesn't, Tracer has piss poor vertical mobility..how can she be a counter to Widow that can get to anywhere on the map?
Even Reaper and, Winston and Genji aren't reliable counter to Widow anymore. The only reliable counter to a good widowmaker is another widowmaker right now.
I like when my team have 2 or 3 widomakers, it give us more map presence
But don't you feel safe knowing you have all that sniper support behind you?
Yeah, I know, but before the game was released it was said Tracer was a Widowmaker counter. I don't know.
I agree though,no character counters her.
I surprised a Widow yesterday by ramming into her from behind with D.VA and she immediately poisoned me, started using her SMG which I absorbed and while my shield was up she charged up her sniper shot and managed to bring me down to 100HP before I could kill her.
Like,it's just insane.
Also 200 hp XD Two hundred fucking HP.
ALL I've been doing for the last week is doing pubs, and I'm pretty much have had it with the game. Was one of the first on the "sheet" for a GAF community, and have never once found myself in a GAF group on PC. Worse, since I've crossed the lv50 barrier(currently 69), all I'm seeing are groups of +100 people, and since most of these people are always in groups(more experience per), it just winds up being roll after roll.
The game desperately needs a way to group into a community, and am not sure why the game(since it has bnet support) didn't have this idea day one.
Are you in the discord? people make groups there all the time. I usually have wow guildies I play with so I don't often have space or I'd offer.
Also, the way Matchmaking works you're only playing against grouped players on the other side as a solo player if the players on your side are also grouped. IE if you're playing against a 4 stack on the other side iwth 2 pugs, you've got a 4 stack on your side too MOST of the time. It's like the foremost rule of OW matchmaking to match the premade sizes.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I find pubs ok.
Maybe it's due to mmr but when I group up i tend to find myself against groups that just stomps people.
Maybe it's due to mmr but when I group up i tend to find myself against groups that just stomps people.
The Google doc? Your battletag is missing
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's the thing, depends on the pubs your matched with but sometimes you can get things done with just a little communication. I was playing rein attacking on dorado, managed to get forward pretty ok, but then the other team just started running over us. I typed out that people need to cover our flanks, people regrouped, and we managed to get there at the last second.
Of course i get grouped with people who don't give a shit but whatever, you take the good with the bad.
Of course i get grouped with people who don't give a shit but whatever, you take the good with the bad.
The Google doc? Your battletag is missing
How? I've gotten a lot of friend requests on battlenet which I assumed was from the google doc, so it should have been on there.
Yeah, there's not much you can do against a good Widow. Only the dumb ones let a Winston or Tracer stroll up to them. Even if they do, her poison mine and SMG are usually enough to put up a solid fight. And all of that is if you can cross the entire map, fight through the entire enemy team, and scale the building she's on top of.
And of course she has been seeing you head towards her anyway cause her ult is up 90% of the round time XD
Ah, I checked again and it seems to have been mistakenly moved down a row to another person.
Ardenyal
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I keep the game in overtime as Lucio for half a minute jumping around the payload like a frigging moron and not one of my teammates stops playing TDM to help with the objective.
This game needed ranked on launch day. These shit for brain idiots need to be put on their own servers.
This game needed ranked on launch day. These shit for brain idiots need to be put on their own servers.
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