He's the highest ranked American player in the world, he took the day off to play solo queue or he'd be the highest in the world, which he was yesterday. He's also a pro on a team called C9, you should check them out. And I like said, I've been watching these guys most of the day and not only have I seen multiple Torb's but I've seen plenty of Bastions.
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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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He's the highest ranked American player in the world, he took the day off to play solo queue or he'd be the highest in the world, which he was yesterday. He's also a pro on a team called C9, you should check them out. And I like said, I've been watching these guys most of the day and not only have I seen multiple Torb's but I've seen plenty of Bastions.
CybernatonEvolution
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Do you suggest strafing to the objective? Shoulder roll? Kappa
More Fun To Compute
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Just embrace the fact that against good players you last longer as pilot d.va than than in the mech,
Hit is splash and direct is rocket connecting anywhere, there is no headshot. Maybe you don't spam enough or fire enough from above?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Bastion is super situational, and situational in a way that is never encountered in the pro scene, and he basically get destroyed by anyone who actually knows how to strafe.
CybernatonEvolution
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He just used Bastion and Torb in his stream. Also, Timou (from Envious) used Bastion as well on Volskaya (and got ran over by Surefour). Those characters are usable in very specific situations and map; you don't run them full match like scrubs do. Also, those pubs players don't know how to place torrets and maintain them (animation canceling), and they won't switch or setup torret on the other point when the other team is almost capping the first one.
That is why people hate seeing Bastion/Torb on their team; they require good teamwork, individual skill AND willingness to switch heroes.
Same here. Ive kinda stopped worrying about my rank and just hope to win to get points for gold weapons. I'm losing way more than I'm winning but what can I expect when playing only with randoms
Forerunner
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Id like to play other things, but nobody ever wants to plays support. So the beat goes on
Dude you punched him in the dick
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Hmm maybe. I think I tend to play too conservatively as pharrah in trying to score direct hits for max damage.
I think what gets to me the most is that I'm determined to get back to where I was, but each time I try to get that rank back I just fall behind. And it's worse because I know each win counts for FAR less than each loss.
More Fun To Compute
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You should always aim to hit I think but you still spam corners or whatever and try to get angles where you get splash if you miss.
I know exactly what you mean. I'm too stubborn, and In my mind I keep telling myself "the next team won't be as bad or we won't lose" and sure enough they are and we do. I guess I can see how low I can go till it levels out and I start to win.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I guess i don't aim at their feet enough.
They should put competitive behind a stricter wall, like you have to prove that you know how to play at least one character per role. I'm not talking about skill, but the amount of times I found people in competitive that LITERALLY have no idea about good team composition is staggering. For example, you need to play at least 2 hours on attack, defence, tank and support before it unlocks. "We already have two snipers on Anubis attack, I guess I'll pick a third one because why not?"
I'll probably look more into it since I wasn't playing a lot of competitive because of the bug, but it seemed like the same "bugged" amount of exp on both victory and defeat when playing a KotH map.
optimus8936
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Had a guy on my team leave, to then keep joining in and keep leaving. He had to have been put back in the match like 4 or 5 times, and left every time.
We lost, but it was worth it to watch him slowly get the leaver penalty, felt good, he deserves it.
We lost, but it was worth it to watch him slowly get the leaver penalty, felt good, he deserves it.
CybernatonEvolution
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I've met people on competitive who have no idea how to aim, flank, user cover, use mid kits AND most importantly, make use of your healers and tanks. Seriously, I was laughing hard at how both teams can barely kill anyone; they just mass-shoot blindly into the other team's direction.
Edit: Surefour getting 103 eliminations LOL. Dat carrying.
If he did that he probably had connection issues. I had a day when I couldn't stay in a game for shit.
Not two hours ago he was queued with 4 people, all 6 were in comms and they still got constantly wrecked by a Torb stack. If pro players playing in pubs are getting wrecked you can't tell the average Overwatch player to "git gud" when it comes to them.
Watching these high level players play in solo queue has pretty much invalidated 90% of the Overwatch truisms that people like to spout. I've seen Torbs, I've seen Bastions, I've seen stacks wreak havoc, I've seen classes on maps that are taboo work like a charm.
P.S. He's on Tracer right now and it's just stupid. It's like a different game.
Vault Dweller 111
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Watching Surefour get 103 eliminations. Holy shit that was unreal.
optimus8936
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Yeah, but he actually chose a character in the middle of that, and then left a few seconds later.
Although it could be your suggestion, which in that case, I feel bad for the guy ):
CybernatonEvolution
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And then his Lucio gets upvotes and says "unreal", even though they got carried hard.
dude is ridiculous. I want to be that good at Tracer
Vault Dweller 111
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There's a fucking 103 elimination card on the board getting 0 votes. LMAO
But that's fine to an extent, that's all stuff you learn while playing, but if you can't understand the basics of how to set up a team on a specific map you're doomed before even starting.
CybernatonEvolution
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Right. More people are starting to listen though. The only asshole who refused to switch was a level 90 Symmetra we met when I was queing with finalflame. We kept telling him to switch and he replies with "I choose her because I can". We end up carrying his ass, and I literally watched the other team take a huge dump on his teleporter that he doesn't know where to place (he went symmetra on attack and didn't contribute at all with teleporter and torrets).
Most people probably only upvote supports like I do; at least 90% of the time
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Surefour is just unreal in general. I've seen matches where it basically looks like he has 76's ult on all the time.
Yeah, they listen more often than not in my experience, but I really, really dislike being that guy that, even politely, tells other people what to do. I wish there was a better way to ensure that people allowed to compete do actually know the characters instead of playing 10 hours of Hanzo and starting competitive. That also frequently leads to infighing so it's just a bad situation overall.
Sapphire Dreams
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Still 12 levels away from competitive. Strangely enough, I never had that many troubles with playing solo so far. Some small troubles here and there, but nothing outrageous.
It should have been obvious when the tournament teams themselves voted for a hero limit. Last night was the first time in ages I've seen no hero limit and everyone hated it including the players themselves.
Trail Guide
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Have been getting crushed in competitive mode these past two days. It started off so good, but now I'm lucky to win one in three matches. I see by the last few pages this can be pretty common.
Also fuck quitters. 30 seconds to find a match, one minute for character choosing/pre-match setup, and then someone quits on my team ten seconds in and then the match is forfeited. What a waste of time #FirstWorldProblems! If you can't commit to a full match then just quick play.
Also fuck quitters. 30 seconds to find a match, one minute for character choosing/pre-match setup, and then someone quits on my team ten seconds in and then the match is forfeited. What a waste of time #FirstWorldProblems! If you can't commit to a full match then just quick play.
I'm at a combined 101 hours of Junkrat. I still find it super fun. I think my next highest is 4 hours
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I thought it was more due to stacks like double lucio and double winston.
Having went up against a double lucio i can confirm that they are infuriating to play against.
Wyndstryker
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Exactly, its not for double Bastions lol. Surefour just said he think Torb is tier 2 material himself a few mins ago
* 2 lucio in KOTH tho. Hm, need to try
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
1 on heal and 1 on speed. Gah.
these guys he's getting queue'd with are like what- rank 80?? I doubt they are idiots lol
The competitive update? What did it change in QP?
Personally, I'd like to see new maps soon since I'm getting kinda bored of them. Some kind of "forced" maps rotation would also help.
I would rather her do more damage. Right now she has similar mobility to Winston but her "shield" is inferior because it only works for attacks coming from the front. Her damage is already better than Winston's but the damage falloff is terrible and it kills her mobility while she's firing. Make it so her dps is closer to Rein's (not that high, since she has a little bit more range, but in the neighborhood) and I would be satisfied.
I'm level 41 and I've played 245 total games of Overwatch. 300 WINS seems insane to me at this point. Like, that number is completely out of whack for someone who is a casual player. It's a good thing I play for fun and not necessarily cosmetic goodies.
I'm not sure I understand how competitive mode works or why it's so much easier to loose rank than it is to gain rank. I'm not going to stress about it too much yet though. As long as I continue to improve my own play and have some fun then the actual rank number isn't terribly important.
That being said, it would be nice to understand that metrics behind the system. Has Blizzard explained anything about it yet?
CybernatonEvolution
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31 sound barriers provided LOL. 15k healing, and 15 objective kills. I think I can do much higher than that assault game in temple of anus. Speaking of the latter, the Bermuda triangle maps (Volskaya cyka, Hanamura and temple of Anus) are very common in ranked; those maps are horrid, and so is assault mode.
yeah ofcourse. I mean when even the pros are against class stacking then the "git gud" responses make even less sense.
As for maps, definitely need new maps soon. I don't need lots of maps, just 6-8 really good ones, and I think we only have 3 or 4 of those so far. I hate all the 2CP maps as well (Volskaya, Anubis and Hanamura), would happily never play them again.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think those responses are more to actually bad stacks like all bastions and less about the legit op stacks like double Winston.
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