Dead Prince
Banned
but now she can turn it off when she cancels it. but who actually do it in front of her anyways. #AttackTheBehind
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but now she can turn it off when she cancels it. but who actually do it in front of her anyways. #AttackTheBehind
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I thought we weren't supposed to talk about the sfm videos.
optimus8936
Banned
For anyone hat doesn't have the patch, the brawl is:
"Tanks a lot"
Only tanks
Only 2 of one hero
Yawn
"Tanks a lot"
Only tanks
Only 2 of one hero
Yawn
The only respectable, skilful ults belong to Tracer, Mei, Widow, Zarya, and any support char. The rest are bullshit and any kind of canceller is a good thing in my view. Soldier 76 in particular can die in a fire.
Burning Water
Neo Member
You on PS4?
What? The brawl is "Ana knows best".
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
No current gens so far.
Gah, a good Pharah is untouchable on console unless a soldier ult is up.
It's even worse when they have a good pocket Mercy damage boosting/healing them.
Consoles don't have Ana yet.
optimus8936
Banned
That's why I said for anyone who doesn't have the patch. AKA consoles.
Dead Prince
Banned
just turn down sensitivity to take her down.Gah, a good Pharah is untouchable on console unless a soldier ult is up.
Baleoce
Member
Only played for a little while but some things I noticed.
D.Va: I only tried her briefly, but I can see myself picking her more now.
Ana: She's fun, weird bug with her though, the hitboxes on both friendly and enemy players is huge for her. I was standing behind an ally and trying to shoot the enemy, and I kept healing my ally instead. Even though it was clearly not aiming at them.
Soldier: I know that they changed his spread recovery so that it's not instant, but does anyone else feel like he's more accurate now from an even further range when just holding down fire? It definitely felt like that to me.
D.Va: I only tried her briefly, but I can see myself picking her more now.
Ana: She's fun, weird bug with her though, the hitboxes on both friendly and enemy players is huge for her. I was standing behind an ally and trying to shoot the enemy, and I kept healing my ally instead. Even though it was clearly not aiming at them.
Soldier: I know that they changed his spread recovery so that it's not instant, but does anyone else feel like he's more accurate now from an even further range when just holding down fire? It definitely felt like that to me.
Great write up. A lot to think about.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's not a bug really, it's just that asking people to be that precise when it comes to healing is a recipe for disaster at lower levels of play. Plus you should be primarily healing anyway.
Gah, a good Pharah is untouchable on console unless a soldier ult is up.
yup, Soldier and Torb turrets are the only things I worry about as Pharah. Altho sometimes if everyone is shooting at you then you dead anyway.
Here's me playing shitty and just a fine sampling of the quality of random you find in competitive.
https://www.twitch.tv/mmgant310/v/78958778
https://www.twitch.tv/mmgant310/v/78958778
harriet the spy
Member
I am completely obsessed with hunting healers in this game, to the point of wasting time and/or ults to do it. I feel like I'm overdoing it but I'm always frustrated to see my teammates seemingly not care about them that I make it my personal obsession.
(I also play as healer very frequently and am often left kind of alone which completely befuddles me)
(I also play as healer very frequently and am often left kind of alone which completely befuddles me)
Angelus Errare
Banned
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Mei's is skillful? You just throw it at the point to deny or where a bunch of people are gathered
Mei's is skillful? You just throw it at the point to deny or where a bunch of people are gathered
Mine's pretty low, the hit detection in this game isn't that great to begin with, IMO.
optimus8936
Banned
You have to be really creative with where you throw it because it's so easy to escape, so being able to trap at least 2 people is very hard to do.
harriet the spy
Member
I'm sure people will disagree - but I feel junkrat ult requires more skill. You can always kill one person - but wiping out a team can happen and involves some creative planning.
optimus8936
Banned
Dva and Rein? Reins shield will still be super useful and with teammates behind him, zen can't put out his discord. Dvas is insanely good with the buff now and can easily kill zen.
Also, Zaryas shields can take away the discord orb, so she will still be good, and that's not including the fact that she has the most game changing ult in the game.
Roadhog depends on if he can still one shot Zen. Can he? If so, he should actually be used a good amount to try and deal with the Zens.
Winston? With the zen and dva buff, he's utterly screwed.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Only tank that gets super nerfed by zen imo is winston, because right now he can't actually do what he does best, which is harassing the backline. The other tanks should really just be working along with rein and his shield anyway, and roadhog should never be in LoS all the time, and he can drop zen in 1-shot unlike winston.
optimus8936
Banned
I can't believe they didn't realize that the Zen buff and Dva buff, two of his hard counters, would make him completely worthless. Zen and Dva will be used a ton, so it's gonna be impossible to use him. They should have given him a small buff to compensate these counter buffs.
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JeremyEtcetera
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Gah, a good Pharah is untouchable on console unless a soldier ult is up.
Other than the suggestions already listed, Roadhog's hook can also work against her on console since it's easier to hook on console.
Question for the strategists and group players out there. I normally play Reinhardt and I'd say I'm pretty good with him while tanking at the right times for my team. When we are on the cart map and moving down the road with the cart, I am keeping my shield up most of the time to block 6 other people shooting at my team, especially at chokepoints. I have a friend who gets angry with me if a tracer, reaper, or genji manages to go past my frontline and starts shooting at them.
He suggests I take my shield down and start using my hammer. I've tried explaining to him that if I do that, the 5 other people shooting at us will immediately melt my health and possibly a couple of others on the team. Is it wrong of me to put my trust in 5 other people that they can take care of one tracer, one reaper, or one genji while I shield their front-end? Should I risk my teammates lives on the fact that my hammer could work against said genji, reaper or tracer?
I'd like to think that I'm doing the right thing because I've seen other Reinhardts become distracted by one enemy and thus leave their team to die. Any advice is welcome.
I mean, they probably realized it. It's how Blizzard does stuff. Characters become completely useless from patch to patch then they get buffed through the roof. Check out Greymane in Heroes of the Storm. Zen and DVa were useless last pathc, Winston is useless this patch.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Dva buff is like whatever for winston. It does nothing to what he has to deal with when it comes to her because his gun goes through shields anyway. Zen though makes him super screwed. I don't know what you can do actually.
In PTR whenever there's a winston and I'm zen it's pretty much a 5 v 6 battle.
Dead Prince
Banned
wall riding on ljiang's garden in overtime. and boosting them from above. won it <3
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Ever since I said that I didn't think I belonged at rank 65 I've lost like 10 out of 12 games and I'm back at 60.
Feels bad man. I'm definitely not doing great. But I feel like I used to get better teammates.
Feels bad man. I'm definitely not doing great. But I feel like I used to get better teammates.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Why is Widow with these? You just press it and it stays up and helps everyone. There's not even a wrong way to use it.
Freezasaurus
Member
Certainly, but I would say there are some moments that are more opportune to use it than just activating it as soon as your gauge is full.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'm assuming because her Ult isn't a free kill and she still has to work for it?
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JeremyEtcetera
Unconfirmed Member
Seems like they all did the same thing.
I'd say Reinhardt's takes skill because its pretty much a cone shape and you can easily whiff. It feels like bowling actually.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean you can do that but that's not the best way to just use winston.
Incendiary
Banned
I don't get off work until 5:30, makes it hard to play before 7. Heh.
I hope so - I'm really looking forward to trying out Ana finally, and also finally getting to play Zenyatta on a regular basis.
optimus8936
Banned
Well yeah the buff itself doesn't affect Winston, but it will make Dva used more, and more Dvas equals less Winstons.
Red Arremer
Member
The way you worded it, it also could've been interpreted as "For those of you who didn't have a chance to install the patch yet, this is the new weekly brawl"
optimus8936
Banned
I mean, yeah, it sucks that they ignored it, but you did too, so, why are you complaining about your teammates when you are doing exactly what you are complaining about?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Ana ult + reinhardt is as broken and you only need 1 ult!
yeehamuffins
Member
While I like playing as D.Va and am glad for the buffs on one hand... on the other my girl Symmetra is kinda fucked with all the new D.Va players going on teleporter hunts. Have played her twice since the patch and only managed to get 1 teammate teleported in between the two matches before they were destroyed. Sym is sad.
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