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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
You're really not meant to play her as a sniper though.
Nano boosted reinhardt is nearly as good as graviton surge in breaking points.
Red Arremer
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Ana can't even be a good sniper because unlike Hanzo and Widowmaker, she can't easily reach vantage positions, since all she has is a basic jump and a basic walk. She's more meant to be a backrow/mid-range skirmisher, much like Hanzo is meant to be played, rather than a long range sniper like Widowmaker.
Hmm... might be... perhaps... cause she's a new character and people like to try new characters? Just a shot in the blue here, I'm probably wrong.
Hmm... might be... perhaps... cause she's a new character and people like to try new characters? Just a shot in the blue here, I'm probably wrong.
Ghostbound
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Unfortunately that's how most people seem to play her.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They'll be weeded out. She really doesn't have the damage nor the mobility to actually work well as a sniper.
Yup, probably wrong.
Garrett Hawke
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The white one
Observe her in all of her glory
Ana can be great in KOTH, as long as people don't play her as a sniper.
She's not REALLY a sniper. It's a component of her kit, but she is most effective when she is very close to the team.
Garrett Hawke
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She's okay against squishies too, as long as it's not 1v1. If she's in a skirmish and a 200 health hero is right in front of her but isn't attacking her she can probably take it out, or at least make a significant dent and then someone else will finish it quickly.
Best to focus on healing though.
Red Arremer
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Oh that reminds me, my problem with weapon switching on Mercy/Torb was indeed tied to the mouse wheel. Thanks whomever told me about that being potentially the issue (I think it might've been Antiwhippy? Definitely somebody with a Mei avatar though).
I still have to hold 1/2 sometimes to swap properly (otherwise it just cancels the animation), but it doesn't swap me back now that I put the mousewheel out of the controls entirely.
Oddly enough I have a similar problem with non-forced reloading sometimes, where I have to hold the R button, otherwise the reload animation stops in the middle.
I still have to hold 1/2 sometimes to swap properly (otherwise it just cancels the animation), but it doesn't swap me back now that I put the mousewheel out of the controls entirely.
Oddly enough I have a similar problem with non-forced reloading sometimes, where I have to hold the R button, otherwise the reload animation stops in the middle.
veloxStrix
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I've yet to see Ana influence a game in any meaningful way at higher ranks barring her ult. In Quick Play, I can make some use of her but then other issues arise like lack of communication and people assuming Ana is a Mercy-esque healer.
D.Va is absolutely broken though. I ate 8-9 ults with her in a match earlier. Didn't even know I could catch Zarya's until today.
D.Va is absolutely broken though. I ate 8-9 ults with her in a match earlier. Didn't even know I could catch Zarya's until today.
Why don't you ask me? Can't guarantee anything.
no one can really counter a good Tracer player
divisionbyzorro
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Honestly, the only thing that's "broken" about ultimates in this game is that they all charge too fast across the board.
Right. Which seems wrong. And it would give Mei something to do which she currently lacks at higher levels. Like she looks like she was designed to counter Tracer but Tracer's the poster girl so that can't happen, right?
It's just like Tracer can recall out of Heroes of the Storm's Chromie's ultimate. The fucking Aspect of Time. Tracer can recall out of it. Blizzard's Tracer boner knows no genre limits.
Red Arremer
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Mccree.
She sure has no hard counters but with only 150 HP everybody can kill her.
Dead Prince
Banned
BeautifulCheers love.
No one is going to consistently land flashbangs on a good Tracer
divisionbyzorro
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Honestly, it's not that hard to flashbang her with McCree or hook her with Roadhog.
The best way to counter Tracey is just to play in a way that makes her a useless pick i.e. No snipers and stick together as a team. Being the poster girl she has no hard counters (although McCree, Roadhog, and Winston are variably useful), but if she can't get easy pickoffs against vulnerable enemies or dies a bunch then you've made her into much less of a good pickup for the enemy team.
Also trap works with Junkrat cuz if you toss just around her, the player will accidentally run on it. I also can sometimes kill her with a bomb.
You don't really need to, if you are accurate with your left click you will make her scramble big time, land a couple and make one a headshot and she's dead
This probably doesn't translate to console though
LucidMomentum
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A good Tracer is like Akuma. Deadly, but still with a small health pool so it's not impossible. Now Mei on the other hand, with her ability to self heal and ignore damage for a few seconds to reset a 1v1, is rather annoying. Like SFIV Elena.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also i gotta say, she dies real quick to reaper.
The amount of tracers that died as she zips towards me is kinda amusing.
The amount of tracers that died as she zips towards me is kinda amusing.
Garrett Hawke
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I was watching this old Widowmaker gameplay and omg, her scope was originally like tunnel vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k65W0PLM0ww
the character voices are all really different as well. they're much improved in the final release imo.
the character voices are all really different as well. they're much improved in the final release imo.
RespectThySole
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Never really messed with Torbjorn like that until recently, but I can see what some of you are saying now. The nerf will make him mostly useless.
optimus8936
Banned
Oh, that explains it. Didn't know it was her native language either. Thanks.
Dead Prince
Banned
dva or winston needs a panda skin.
RespectThySole
Member
Been getting some competent teams lately for the most part. Hopefully, it lasts.
It won't 
Red Arremer
Member
I'd love a set of animal skins for all the characters.
Bird of prey for Pharah, Boar for Roadhog, Polar Bear/Panda for Mei, Rat for Junkrat, Coyote for McCree etc.
RespectThySole
Member
D.Va needs a bunny mech.
Shrike is nice and all, but her original blue captain Amari legendary is the best. It's such a nice take on classic military outfits.
Stone Ocean
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On console, sure.
On Pc nah.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
DVa needs her cardboard meka.
RespectThySole
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Even if he lands it Tracer will just recall out
Her Ult is pretty weak too. You never hear any Tracer players shouting "my ultimate is ready!"
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
No, pretty sure you can't recall out of stun.
You can recall the moment stun hits you, but a good mccree will make note of where you'll most likely be and headshot you.
RespectThySole
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Yeah, you can recall right as it hits you. I did it consistently to this one McCree yesterday.
One change I'd like to be made to Tracer is being able to track where she goes when she uses recall.
I know when the player uses it, he still sees tracer's hands, so she doesn't disappear, but from the outside players perspective, that's exactly what she does.
Letting us see where she's going will give players a chance to counter. I've tried to keep in mind where she is 3 seconds from now at all times, but given how she blinks, it's pretty much impossible to discern. I think her having I-frames while in transit would be fine, but I'm just sick of how she gets away EVERY damn time. Give me SOMETHING to handle her ass, please.
I know when the player uses it, he still sees tracer's hands, so she doesn't disappear, but from the outside players perspective, that's exactly what she does.
Letting us see where she's going will give players a chance to counter. I've tried to keep in mind where she is 3 seconds from now at all times, but given how she blinks, it's pretty much impossible to discern. I think her having I-frames while in transit would be fine, but I'm just sick of how she gets away EVERY damn time. Give me SOMETHING to handle her ass, please.
Stone Ocean
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League has a character with a similar power, when it's not on cd he had a shadow follow his steps so you know exactly where he'll be. I wonder how taxing something like that would be in a game like this
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