LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Sounds extremely unsatisfying.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
- Thread starter GraveRobberX
- Start date
- Status
Sounds extremely unsatisfying.
I feel like I can relax and just play whatever I feel like now that competitive is out. I don't ever want to play competitive so its great that quick play doesn't have the same pressure to do really well
Incendiary
Banned
I think I'm just going to do the placement matches and see where I end up ranked, then just stick to Quick Play unless I'm in a group from GAF. That way I see how Blizzard ranks my ability, but I don't get frustrated with the game. I may play more seriously in the next season after some of the bugs get worked out.
finalflame
Member
Can we take a moment to talk about Pachimari?
The problem with this (which I know they say they are fixing) is that the lower the rank you get, the chances of playing with or against rage quitters goes up. If you win when someone leaves the game, you barely go up in rank to the point that it's meaningless, but if you lose, you'll go down a rank.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
What class do you wish you were better at but you really aren't great with them?
For me, it would be Reaper.
For me, it would be Reaper.
Reinhardt. I can play everyone pretty well in a good team but I can't do shit with him.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Zarya and Genji.
Yeah, thats true. I had 3 games yesterday where we had a guy leave. 1 match we even won with 1 guy down from tje first round. And even if you win with 1 guy down, you still get less xp
Vestal
Junior Member
Genji
yeehamuffins
Member
Pretty much every class that requires really good, and fast, mouse accuracy to be effective. So folks like Soldier: 76, Genji, and Tracer, I really need to practice my aim on. Widowmaker I'm decent at because I usually have a little time to line up shots, but with the Offense characters you usually need to be right in the thick of it and nailing headshots left and right, and I just don't have the twitch reflexes to manage that, I guess.
LucidMomentum
Member
Zennyata. I just die too quickly.
Symmetra. Once again, I overestimate myself and die too quickly.
Widowmaker / Hanzo. I've never been a good sniper, I'm too patient and not snap enough to pick people off.
Tracer / McCree / Genji.
Haven't played them at all.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Me and my Overwatch skill rank
I can play Winston better but man, Reinhardt really boggles my mind. I was in a Comp game where a Reinhardt destroyed our team constantly. he was aggressive as fuck. I wonder if that's the magic.
Tracer. And Mercy, I guess. She's currently my worst performance on support, but I'm not yet sure how much of that is my fault, my team's fault or the opposing team's merit.
Mercy is a tough character to get good with, because like you said, it's not just about individual skill.
I feel playing Mercy on competitive leaves you solely at the mercy of chance, whether your teammates are good enough to stay in range and watch your back, as well as whether your enemies are good enough to make it their life mission to kill you. At least Lucio is a bit harder to hit, and can contribute to healing while doing (weak) damage and (decent) crowd control.
Off-topic but Competitive mode has been added to Team Fortress 2 lol
http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/
http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/
There is truth to this, I know it is rage inducing. I understand people want to "Try out" heroes but certain combos are just terrible. You can't ask them to switch because they are just having fun and don't care about winning or loosing. I kind of want a mode like Quick Play for people that don't care about winning or loosing or decent team comps or counters at all. Let them all play together and screw around but the option of only Quick Play or Competitive isn't enough to fit the player base of this game. A team based online game to me is always something I'm trying to do well at, help the team, push for the win, etc. I understand not everyone is that way but I don't want to have to jump into the borked comp play just to have teammates that are actively trying to do well. Just my opinions of course I'm sure I'm in the minority.
Widowmaker. Hitting someone constantly moving in an unpredictable manner is tough as shit, even if its just a body shot(unless it's a tank, since they all got a big body, but good luck killing one at full health). I have to forget ever getting that achievement where you need to get a scoped headshot while airborn. Even if I do desperatly try to get that achievement one day, I'll probably spend the whole match doing this and not helping my team at all.
Finished my placements, got 49. I think 6 wins 4 losses. Did one more ranked game to help my sis finish her last placement, but only with a group of 3 people. Got 3 randoms. One of them was a Reinhardt whose only strategy at Hanamura attacking Point B was to charge right into their point and raise his shield until he died. As Mercy that was really, really painful. I had to coordinate the flanking over voice chat, and it still didn't go well because the guy charging didn't give a shit. We lost. Sis got placed 50. I got dragged down to 48. FML.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Sniper/Healer HYPE!
Shake Appeal
Member
I wish I was better at Reinhardt—or just enjoyed playing him more. Same deal with Roadhog. I only really like Zarya and Winston from the tanks, and neither of them works as the lone tank unless the other team is incompetent.
Sombra is coming.
Hellshingu
Member
I'd welcome a Mayhem type mode where your abilities charge a little faster and it doesn't count towards anything. Give people time to mess around and test out abilities quicker to help get a feel for the characters before they take them into more "serious" matches.
That would be cool, I was a big fan of the original Brawl with random heroes. It helped balance things and allowed everyone to play classes they might not normally play, add some faster charge of abilities and that could be a TON of fun. Some mode needs to stick that allows people to try out and get decent with new classes without hurting the team.
I play with a core group of people and if we have a spot available for a solo queue without fail they ALWAYS pick a Hanzo or Widomaker. I tend to play Lucio or Mercy depending on the map but in the rare case I don't pick a main healer the random solo queue player will STILL pick a sniper.
Dead Prince
Banned
leaver patch should be out today. someone said it's out? i'm not at my client to know
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
Haven't there been rumors for a while about Pharah's mom being the next hero seeing as she's a sniper?
I don't know about that. I've got close to a 100% win rate with Torb over dozens of games in comp in the mid to high ranked 60s.
finalflame
Member
MOTHERFUCKING HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LET'S GO
I can't snipe for shit, so Mercy won't be my worst support anymore
Yup, Nirolak even made a nice thread with evidence about it.
edit: here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221385
Sniper/Healer?
THE DREAM IS REAL
Vault Dweller 111
Member
I want the lowdown. This is Sombre right? C'mon Blizzard give me some details!
Weak ass sniper as alt fire, healing orb type thing that you shoot at teammates as primary fire? God the first week will be awful, only a very small number of people will be effective playing that kind of character. But everyone will be trying.
Hope there is more too it than that.
I partly enjoy the longer games, especially the 2CP format is a big improvement (but still with bad maps). I've generally seen more teamplay than in QP too and with better comps. But I've been on a winning streak and managed to avoid most of what people complain a lot about in here, lucky me.
Still a ton they can do to improve and I hope they manage to sooner rather than later.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
If I can heal my team from a distance and also apply DPS from said distance.... oh man.
i think it's a nightmare for bathroom breaks lol
Depends on the player and the situation. If the team can support the Torb and Bastion they can do some serious damage but it also depends on the pace of the game, if the defense is constantly on the back pedal then there is no time to setup a defense that will work for Torb and Bastion, especially on Payload push defense... depending on how the attacking team plays there is no chance to setup and buff Torb's turret. If the attackers are slow or get shut down and you have time to setup though a smart Torb can really hamper their progress once they regroup plus the armor packs for the team are amazing to give the defenders some sticking power in team fights.
Dead Prince
Banned
new patch is up. go go go.
TheLetdown
Member
I would say Genji, because I suck with him, but Tracer is probably my best character, so I don't feel that I'm lacking in flanker picks.
Maybe Widowmaker? I'm pretty solid with Hanzo because I play him super aggressively, but there are times where you just need an actual sniper's sniper. She's hard to be good with on console.
I had a good game with her yesterday where I switched as a counter-pick to their Hanzo/Widow defending the last point on Hanamura. Me and their Widow got into a close range duel when I hooked to her perch. We did a little auto-rifle shooting but we both were those annoying jumpers, so I switched to snipe and popped her, luckily. I then jumped down to the point and helped our Winston capture and sniped when they were leaving spawn while sitting on the point.
- Status