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Overwatch |OT4| You Want A Good Genji, But You Need The Bad Hanzo
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xaosslug
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in QP I keep being teamed w/ peeps that don't seem to care about the objective until the last 60 seconds when they start to kinda group up/get it together, but by then it's too late because the other team's full-up w/ ults, and just spam them one after another until the clock runs out. smh
The Last Wizard
Member
How come you lose so much rank for a loss in competitive but barely get any for winning?
Apparently during the closed beta, Blizzard released their first shot at Competitive where you gained or lost the same amount of rank every game. Needless to say, they got enough negative feedback so they scrapped it for what we have now.
edit: There's also the winner's penalty that occurs when someone leaves the game.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Friends?
I know that I've been in groups where I've grouped up with unrankeds that they knew.
As much as I use Sym, even I'll admit those characters are accessories; I'm guessing there was a Tracer or Genji with 75% kill participation in such a game.
The Last Wizard
Member
And they really thought this was the better option? If that's the case, individual performance should be heavily factored since it's based on win/loss
how dumb do you have to be to complain about a system as good as that lol
Blizzard ¯\_(ツ
_/¯They should have just used the Hearthstone ranking system, like literally copy it, even the part where you get more stars for consecutive wins until rank 5.
iirc they said it was grindy.
Now it's negative grindy, as in, the more you play, the lower you go.
I feel like this should be restricted, that player does not belong within a game of mid 60 skill players, and it showed.
Blizzard ¯\_(ツ
They should have just used the Hearthstone ranking system, like literally copy it, even the part where you get more stars for consecutive wins until rank 5.
The hearthstone system isn't zero sum though, so you end up with everyone moving up over time if they put in the effort. The OW system is much more an actual ranking.
The Antitype
Banned
Hmmmm, you make a sound point.
I still feel as though going on wins and losses feels like an almost lazy way to go about it though. I don't feel it serves anybody particularly well.
Maybe if competitive mode were restricted to weekly clan tournaments or something that would work well, but as of right now, it feels like whether you're the single player trying to make do, or the team getting matched with some less-than-great random singles, nobody wins.
lol right
They literally made it worse by making it so you need even more wins to equal a loss
people are crazy to not want the system they had in place before
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Played against a team in ilios with a sym that seemed intent on just placing turrets in one of the side rooms that people might pass through, but didn't really do much else but wait in that room. I just kept hooking her and destroying both her or her turrets, or just ignored her altogether because she was doing nothing to cap the main point.
Felt so bad for the other team.
It was ranked too. One of the easiest ranked matches I've had.
Felt so bad for the other team.
It was ranked too. One of the easiest ranked matches I've had.
the overwatch system seems like everyone will move down over time unless they're extremely good and win a huge percentage of their games
i don't see how that's better
The original system they used is not a true ranking system. It makes it way too easy to get a high ranking. Those were the main complaints. That's not to say what we got is any better.
The Antitype
Banned
Honestly, I would never play competitive mode if the matchmaking times on Xbox One weren't so much faster.
I treat it like quick play.
lvl 43 and feeling fiiiiiiiiine
Gunslinger
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Yeah especially if you solo q then rank doesnt reflect your actual skills. It's not like a fighting game where your skill alone will take you far. Here you are dependant on five other people who may or may not be good.thus really hard to hold a high rank.
The Antitype
Banned
It's especially galling from Blizzard, who have separate rankings for Starcraft teams vs Starcraft individuals.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That is like the worst use of damage boost, because if Hanzo is hitting people like he should he doesn't need damage boost to finish off people, and if he isn't then his dps is so inconsistent you're better off shooting along with him.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
How many rank matches do people play in a stretch btw? I find myself averaging between 4-5 before needing to switch to QP or take a break.
backflip10019
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God this game has the highest of highs and lowest of lows. Those moments when playing with randoms where you coordinate ults and get a team kill... man it's unlike anything else. But then when you play with people who have no idea what they're doing it's absolutely awful. Yin and yang.
Kayo Police
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LG is awful on Defense. They really need Pookz and Gods to pick new characters, or just kick them off the team.
Pookz does nothing as Sym and Gods is so hot and cold with 76.
Pookz does nothing as Sym and Gods is so hot and cold with 76.
Dead Prince
Banned
when you defending so well on volskaya. 5 people from the other just ups and leaves. the other person (Pisbug) stayed like a champ for when he had to defend.
This was comp btw.
This was comp btw.
Orochinagis
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Forever 44-45, my team keeps picking torb, bastion and reinhart with no healers or concrete strategy.
It still puzzle me how players above 60 keeps playing that bad or dont change their pick according to the map. They are high level enough to understand the game but no, no supports outside symmetra
It still puzzle me how players above 60 keeps playing that bad or dont change their pick according to the map. They are high level enough to understand the game but no, no supports outside symmetra
Gods got hurt badly by the Widow nerf, that team is carried by Seagull now and if he isn't on top form then LG doesn't look too good.
optimus8936
Banned
It seems like a former Widow player would perform very well on McCree, as he's all about precision accuracy now, but who knows. But, yeah, Seagull is head and shoulders above his team, he makes LG.
Imagine if Seagull was on Envyus, oh god, they would be unstoppable.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
His damage falloff is not at all like widow. They both serve different functions at different ranges. Damage is nothing like widow's as well.
Dead Prince
Banned
the best thing about turrents on payload maps is that they place it in a way i can just hide behind the other side of the payload lol. RIP
optimus8936
Banned
What I'm saying is both characters require precision accuracy, it's just that they work at different ranges and have a different toolset, but it could work. Maybe he should just go Hanzo? Oh wait, Seagull does that
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I feel like if you need a hitscan mid-range DPS character soldier 76 is pretty much a no brainer.
Burst damage stunner to get rid of specific targets? Roadhog.
I do agree with nerfing mccree but seeing how it played out they probably should give him something else to compensate without giving his old stuff back. Because the other 2 characters right now just makes him obsolete.
Burst damage stunner to get rid of specific targets? Roadhog.
I do agree with nerfing mccree but seeing how it played out they probably should give him something else to compensate without giving his old stuff back. Because the other 2 characters right now just makes him obsolete.
250 health and he'd be more viable.
Officer.Sanchez
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It's worse when you tell one of them to change the heroe and Hanzo player #2 says: "I play whatever I want, if you want to win go play competitive mode"
I quit the match (quick play during heroe selection) and logged out, enough overwatch for today.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'm more of a fan of him getting his fan damage back but he can't fan immediately after roll just so that it allows him to kill characters like reaper straight out but not melt tanks like he was doing.
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