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Overwatch |OT5| 15 Million Strong, None Are On The Payload
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Interesting that they're actually open to drastically change their abilities, I thought D.Va's defense matrix was their maximum extent, i.e. keep the same ability but tweak it.
But yeah, if they want to improve the support section they should just look at Lucio and start making them more appealing compared to him. He's the complete package, he's slippery as fuck, he can heal reliably, he has the speed boost, his lmb is not great but he can still focus on dealing damage while he passively heals, he can boop, and he has a powerful ult that works on both offense and defense, there's just no good reason to pick someone else over him right now. And I don't even think they should nerf him, I just don't see why the rest of the supports should be so limited in their scope.
Dead Prince
Banned
when they pick lucio and zen in comp and all you're left with is mccree. RIP
we won after the dude switched off him
Great OT title.
From previous thread,
Even if they nerf speed boost like that, I still think he will always be picked. That is maybe unless they give Anna or Mercy speed boosting capabilities also.
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Can't wait for the inevitable defense hero buffs. The Mei meta will dawn upon us with glory.
From previous thread,
Anne said:
Even if they nerf speed boost like that, I still think he will always be picked. That is maybe unless they give Anna or Mercy speed boosting capabilities also.
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Can't wait for the inevitable defense hero buffs. The Mei meta will dawn upon us with glory.
I think he'll still be really good, but losing speedboost power opens up the game for other strats besides Lucio blitzing every fight. My goal isn't to have Lucio be bad. I want other strats that don't involve speedboost to have room to exist.
Kayo Police
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This...this is what Lucio's and Zen's speeddiscord meta has bought upon us.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Mei buff woooo!
Having her ult pierce barriers would be hilarious.
Having her ult pierce barriers would be hilarious.
I was in an incredibly fun comp match we won the other day with a Torb and Sym on Anubis defence. I was Zen behind Rein's shield and basically nobody got past the first chokepoint (the few that got through died really quickly).
Kayo Police
Member
Mei is now the counter to Zarya.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I want her ice spray to have increased width and decreased length actually.
Make it like a shotgun AoE thing.
Make it like a shotgun AoE thing.
Shit, the only Canadian I know is Surefour. Who are these people?
xaosslug
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imo, Mei is fine the way she is. They just need to give her a 'speed bump' in the form of being able to skate around on her ice spray wake.
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BriareosGAF
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Man it is miserable at L21 in QP. No coordination, only tank a DVa soloing off in some corner by herself dying repeatedly, no healer. I should just give up on playing anyone but Reinhardt or Lucio.
Red Arremer
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I never heard of any of the Austrians and just voted based on their character picks. <_<
this team did absolutely horribly, but then everyone got sanity at the same time w/o talking, switched to a better mix, and it turned out really fun
lolol finally had a bad day with randoms, got grouped with low 60s and we went 0-3 XD
250->500 about, loool
what a shitshow the 60s are X_X
(Not trying to be mean to anyone 60s, it's just 60s->70s is like an ocean apart in how people play)
edit: why does the game allow 50s to play with 60s and 60s with 70s
the skill difference is ridiculous that one premade has an average at 72 and the other has an average of 61, it's basically an acknowledgement the 65s will body the low 60s and the 70s can't carry that hard.
250->500 about, loool
what a shitshow the 60s are X_X
(Not trying to be mean to anyone 60s, it's just 60s->70s is like an ocean apart in how people play)
edit: why does the game allow 50s to play with 60s and 60s with 70s
the skill difference is ridiculous that one premade has an average at 72 and the other has an average of 61, it's basically an acknowledgement the 65s will body the low 60s and the 70s can't carry that hard.
Kayo Police
Member
What the hell Talespin's most played character is MEI?!
Also really not liking the lack of female OW players.
Also really not liking the lack of female OW players.
killdatninja
Banned
Any GAF games going on right now? Psn
Kayo Police
Member
lol my bad I meant in the Voting thing for World Cup.
pls how are those two the same sentence at all XD
Are you both on PC? We could start a group.
My BattleNet ID is "Josh5890#1468"
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I've ran into quite a few, but yeah, isn't the pro scene of most esports dominated by males anyway?
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Bear Force One
Banned
I mean you can notice it
Games and gamers can try and be more inclusive, but sexism/"no girls!" logic still applies and you regularly see girls annoyed about it or never even get into things that would start them towards esports. Obviously not a law of games or anything but it's sad it's still so much a thing.
Dead Prince
Banned
what are the odd that i end up in a game who is also "deadprince".
depends. New meta might be more open than now. There will always be a meta. There will always be complaining. I just want a meta more open than what we have now.
I work in esports so I guess I can kinda answer this? There aren't a lot of women in the major scenes yet because of the roots of esports. There are also still a bunch of guys who won't take women in esports seriously. That's a whole nother thread, but Overwatch esports is having a not uncommon diversity issue right now.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Reminds me of that korean female zarya player who was accused of cheating.
How is she nowadays? Hopefully still dominating with zarya.
If it doesn't this game can only go so far imho.
Completely cleared by blizz and still doing strong last I heard.
But yeah I remember from hearing about it more people mentioned she was a girl (gasp) then the fact she was accused of being a cheater.
Bear Force One
Banned
But things change all the time without removing abilities. No one played Zen now he's viable. And now we have people trying to nerf discord. HAHA
Zen got buffed out the ass though. Discord got significantly buffed itself.
This seems like a troll.
killdatninja
Banned
Bear Force One
Banned
It's not a troll. The point being no matter the buffs or nerfs someone will take to the boards and complain. It's human nature and a never ending cycle.
No one here should claim to know how to balance this with any certainty.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
There are a ton of people playing zen now.
This thread is always so gloomy or sad, heres something to cheer you all up with a good laugh
http://overwatch.metabomb.net/gameplay-guides/overwatch-best-heroes-tier-list-rankings-august
http://overwatch.metabomb.net/gameplay-guides/overwatch-best-heroes-tier-list-rankings-august
Bear Force One
Banned
Yup.
I already said there will be a new meta and people will complain. You just keep balancing until the meta is "good enough" that there can be decent enough diversity and strats. Of course nobody knows for certain what's up, but we do have a decent idea of a direction that might be good to go in?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Ah I think I misread. I thought you meant that no one is playing zen even though he's viable now.
Bear Force One
Banned
Outright removing speed boost tells.me.no.
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