-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Overwatch |OT6| Boop
- Thread starter ExMachina
- Start date
- Status
Vault Dweller 111
Member
It'd be much better if this were true. But no actually.
Range similar to soldier, damage similar to Tracer with a larger magazine.
THe_DeiCiDe
Member
I really hope he's not serious.
Lulz.
xaosslug
Member
i cannot wait for the monstrosity that will be 'viable @ higher level play, reworked Symmetra'. I mean if peeps think Sombra's gonna break the game just wait until reworked Symm reveal... xD
i hope D.Va gets the same treatment as well... I could go for heat-seeking rockets, tbh.
Sombra's way to valuable with the Rein/Lucio/Zarya smothering meta rn. Sombra's in the meta, period. And since she renders everyone currently in the meta moot (most of all Rein/Zarya/Lucio) it's really up in the air who she'll replace...
Really? Her gun doesn't seem that strong and have 76 range from Dyrus's stream.
She probably can never lose 1v1, but that's because of her abilities.
Red Arremer
Member
As Blizzcon comes to an end just like my consciousness, I will leave with maintaining that OT7's title should be:
|OT6.9999931%| :kapplan:
|OT6.9999931%| :kapplan:
And then it turns out that the new OT won't even be opened up by the time I get up hah
Vault Dweller 111
Member
76 range is from the devs mouth. Haven't really seen much of that. Hits like a truck from close range though.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
76 range but much higher spread, which is a really big factor when it comes to effective damage.
Her use isn't DPS though. It's tactics and considering how tanks are crucial in the meta, she will pretty much be on every team imo.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I could see ana + sombra as a support structure especially if the health pack hacking makes it through intact.
Would be kind of insane for a dive comp.
Would be kind of insane for a dive comp.
xaosslug
Member
How about a no charge secondary fire? Max 3 sentry but instant cd.
how about Symm can throw her turrets, now (but they don't activate until they land wherever, ofc). xD
Poodlestrike
Banned
I mean, she is in that second block. First 4, then it falls off a cliff, then stays relatively steady for the next 4. She's a top 10 pick. Beats the hell out of everyone under Tracer.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Running a DPS who supports and has great defense capabilities as your second healer and replacing Lucio/Zen/Mercy with a Mei/Tracer/McCree/Roadhog/etc. is just... wow
xaosslug
Member
i can see Ana being dumped before Lucio, tbh. Especially w/ her nanoboost speed being nerfed.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I want to be able to stick turrets to friends and enemies.
Frankly, though, they're going to have to do some drastic stuff to make her work. I'm expecting her shields and teleporter to be gone entirely, if what they've been saying about moving her from Support to Defense is true.
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
Damn I'm ashamed of my self
Today I was playing Lucio on hanamura. We are getting destoryed at the first point but I have my ult saved for a big push. Now here is some background info I'm high witch is nothing new, but I'm also on musinec becuase I have a cold and together those make me really spacey in the head. Well on my way to the gate I went to jump and press fucking y instead of a. Use my ult on spawn with no one else around.
The people talking just say "did you really just do that"
I'm ashamed gaf deeply ashamed
Today I was playing Lucio on hanamura. We are getting destoryed at the first point but I have my ult saved for a big push. Now here is some background info I'm high witch is nothing new, but I'm also on musinec becuase I have a cold and together those make me really spacey in the head. Well on my way to the gate I went to jump and press fucking y instead of a. Use my ult on spawn with no one else around.
The people talking just say "did you really just do that"
I'm ashamed gaf deeply ashamed
Vault Dweller 111
Member
You'll read this tomorrow and think 'wtf?'Damn I'm ashamed of my self
Today I was playing Lucio on hanamura. We are getting destoryed at the first point but I have my ult saved for a big push. Now here is some background info I'm high witch is nothing new, but I'm also on musinec becuase I have a cold and together those make me really spacey in the head. Well on my way to the gate I went to jump and press fucking y instead of a. Use my ult on spawn with no one else around.
The people talking just say "did you really just do that"
I'm ashamed gaf deeply ashamed
Was watching a gameplay video of Sombra just now and I think I'm most excited about her teleport ability..the cooldown on it seems very generous. I can see some fun possibilities for it especially on attack
ps: Here's the gameplay video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnw56QObL2U
ps: Here's the gameplay video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnw56QObL2U
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Sombra dumpsters on lucio's ult though. Like, literally makes it meaningless.
It's kinda funny how each new character they are trying to introduce more counterplay to support ults because they know how broken they are.
Huh? She's gonna kick Tracer or Genji out of the current meta with ease. Not sure how you arrived at a Mei comparison.
Edit: Her damage is great based on footage.
Damn I'm ashamed of my self
Today I was playing Lucio on hanamura. We are getting destoryed at the first point but I have my ult saved for a big push. Now here is some background info I'm high witch is nothing new, but I'm also on musinec becuase I have a cold and together those make me really spacey in the head. Well on my way to the gate I went to jump and press fucking y instead of a. Use my ult on spawn with no one else around.
The people talking just say "did you really just do that"
I'm ashamed gaf deeply ashamed
lol on a serious note, it happens
don't worry about itAll of Sombra's skills are escapes and debuffs. She won't be able to wipe a team like a Tracer or Genji. Her kit's more support/defense with high DPS.
If she's replacing anything, I suspect it'll be supports.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yash there's no way sombra outputs the damage of Tracer or genji.
Her dash is not tracer's blink. She will not be able to team wipe like a nano boosted dragon blade.
People are really overreacting honestly.
Her dash is not tracer's blink. She will not be able to team wipe like a nano boosted dragon blade.
People are really overreacting honestly.
Hamster Plugin
Member
Best way to learn is simply to play. Try out a hero's weapons and abilities in the training range then pick them in a few quickplay matches. I did this for the entire roster, found a few heroes I clicked with, and focused on them.
It definitely doesn't hurt to also look up info/guides if you want a rundown on a characters' kit. Some good hero-specific video guides here to get you started:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZVkseJlphu-g76IDcatw12i0lWLkDjR3
Also feel free to ask in this thread for tips if any particular characters catch your fancy.
Thanks, I'll try quick match (I hope it will just match me with other newbies) trying out each role. That playlist will be useful when I'm done with some games.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
She fits on any team comp like a glove. She has no counters that are hard enough to make you rethink picking her. Lucio is 100% f-tier now, that's who she replaces. She'll be on every team, what they choose to put around her will just be the usual I'm sure.
I wish I record this brutal lost on route 66 where one of my team mates went off on a solider/mcree who couldn't shoot down a Pharah.
Player: "Dude you need to learn how to play solider and McCree if your play them."
Solider/McCree:"BBBut I killed her a few times!"
Player:"We all saw the kill feed she killed you more than you killed her!"
She feasted on our entire team.
Player: "Dude you need to learn how to play solider and McCree if your play them."
Solider/McCree:"BBBut I killed her a few times!"
Player:"We all saw the kill feed she killed you more than you killed her!"
She feasted on our entire team.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Actually I wonder if they incorporate some kind of psuedo speed boost into their heroes if Lucio will be gone.
Sombra
Mercy
Tracer
Dva
Winston
Soldier
Obviously that comp won't happen but it'd be really cool to see.
Sombra
Mercy
Tracer
Dva
Winston
Soldier
Obviously that comp won't happen but it'd be really cool to see.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I honestly think that the hack being interrupted by any damage is good enough that you can have some counterplay to it.
Might have to tweak the time to hack either way but that's a good way to check it.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
Yea my 'Sombra OP' crusade has probably gone on quite long enough at this point. I'd love to talk about how fun this new character looks. But every time I start imagining the possibilities I just can't help but see
"OP AS FUCK"
At every turn. She'll go on the PTR as is, and she might actually come to live in her current state. I admit that she seems incredibly broken to me but hey Blizz has been testing her for months, so I guess I better just trust that she'll be fine (HA) or that the nerfs will be swift. In the meantime I'll be playing her every chance I get. Can't wait.
Sometimes it's hard to consistently take down a good/great Pharah one on one even if you're soldier or mccree.
You basically need elite aiming because those great pharahs don't miss much and know how to use their mobility, and then you have to worry about the rest of the enemy team.
xaosslug
Member
she does that to everyone, tho? All she has to do is hack Rein and he's a helpless baby. Does that mean he's out of the meta? >_> It's more about who is more useful in spite of the shiny new Sombra meta, imo. And even w/o his abilities or ult Lucio can still outmaneuver/play someone trying to kill him. But Ana w/o her abilities is like Widowmaker w/ her hook on cooldown... a sitting duck.
you can use her translocator to escape, or reposition (while in a fight), just like her invisibility can be used to reposition... peeps are vastly underestimating not only Sombra's potential but her crazy-ass play. I mean she can teleport WHILE IN THE AIR and teleport INTO THE AIR... no one thinks that shit's cray? LOL
It's totes cray, but she also doesn't have as many killing options as any other DPS. Pharah doesn't have a McCree/Genji/Soldier alt-fire, but she's got Rocket Barrage and the Concussion blast to get enviro kills. Tracer's got the (super-fast-building) Pulse Bomb for burst damage.
Sombra's got her M1 for killing, and that's it. Her skills give her mad survivability - think Mei 2.0 - but even that (spectacular) ult doesn't deal damage (to anyone except Zarya, Symmetra and Zenny). Her survivability is a big deal, and so is her ult - but when it comes to gettin' things killed, she's got a lot to prove.
That said, I could see folks getting three solid (squishy/defense/dps) picks before that gun of hers runs out of ammo, if their aim is Seagullesque.
BlueLiquid
Member
I saw my first mass-quit in quickplay today. The map's Eichenwald, we're on defense, nobody's picked yet. I'm in the mood for something different so I pick Bastion. Then a three-stack on my team all pick the same. The other two go Junkrat and Roadhog. The other team has a normal comp. But after a few minutes they'd managed to set foot on the point a few times but still hadn't come close to capping. Suddenly a four-stack on their team mass-quits and the whole thing gets cancelled. We all get nothing.
Tonight also seems to be a night for people throwing tantrums and matches when the rest of the team doesn't play the heroes they're told to. More than usual, anyway. I think people overestimate the effect of team comp at my level (2100-2200).
Tonight also seems to be a night for people throwing tantrums and matches when the rest of the team doesn't play the heroes they're told to. More than usual, anyway. I think people overestimate the effect of team comp at my level (2100-2200).
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'm not talking about hack, I'm taking about emp. Because sound barrier is one of the best ults out there and they negated it entirely.
Rein still has a way to counterplay hack from what I've seen. Either have a dedicated pyro like character (Winston, mei) to check Sombra or spin like crazy to break los.
It's either the best thing to happen to the game or the worst.
Nuno Pinto
Member
I still don't understand how it works exactly. They gave the example of Lucio (if he just used his ult the shields provided just vanish) but how does it work with other ults? Let's imagine a nano-boosted Genji, does it cancel the boost and the dragon blade? Or just the abilities like deflect/dash?
Let's say a Zarya has her ult charged, if she's caught in the EMP blast does it go back to 0%?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
No, it works like a wide aoe hack that also happens to destroy all barriers. Any existing ability effect remains the same i believe, it's just that you can't use new skills until it resets.
If it reset ult charge % that would be ridiculous. Does it do that??!
I love playing as Lucio, but kind of wish there was another character that had some sort of speed boost. The game feels slow without it. Not sure how it would be incorporated without it feeling like a mirror of Lucio though.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Like honestly, now that i describe it like that it doesn't sound as amazing as i thought it was originally, because at least you can still fight back. Mei's ult means you can't fight back at all, and it pretty much negated all barriers anyway.
Nuno Pinto
Member
He was definitely faking that "childish" voice.
Ok, that's not too bad. The biggest advantage of that ult is that Sombra can target exactly who she wants without failing the mark (with teleport/invisibility and the ult being cast instantaneously).
Nah, I'm just raising questions
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll