Wtf is this true?
I'm mostly zenyatta and lucio. so many games where me or other healers are absolutely the most valuable players on the team. That's bullshit.
I got 19SR for my last win and I fucking fought for it
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Wtf is this true?
I'm mostly zenyatta and lucio. so many games where me or other healers are absolutely the most valuable players on the team. That's bullshit.
I got 19SR for my last win and I fucking fought for it
You should have let yourself die to the turret for the ultimate BM.On an unrelated note, practicing some Lucio BM.
Need to get a highlight intro though.
I average out between 30-40 SR for the Defense & Tank heroes (Mei, Zarya, Reinhardt specifically), while I get 20-25 for Support (Ana, Lucio, and Zenyatta). And this is when I can average out between 6,000-12,000 for healing. For the most part, I focus on trying to keep my team alive & topped up rather than landing kills, though I do launch my discord orb & help attack an enemy Pharah/Mercy combo when teaming up with Soldier 76 or chipping in with Ana on the offensive.
In team-based games like League of Legends and MMOs like World of Warcraft, support classes (medics, buffers, debuffers, etc.) are a necessary element of achieving victory. However, they're under-appreciated and sometimes under-played. Overwatch addresses that problem in some smart ways, but it doesn't completely solve the problem & they managed to create another system which favors damage and DPS characters.
The simple solution is to not track individual performance, just track win/loss. Granted, this means that good players will lose just as many points as bad players, and that 6-man pre-made's can more easily carry players, but it beats the alternative of having a broken score system. A good player is likely to win more than a bad player, & right now, players who make sacrifices for the team (while I love playing as Ana, Zenyatta, and Lucio, many don't enjoy playing Support Heroes as much as other roles & are usually forced into them) get punished for it. That's just not acceptable.
Yeah should have laughed again until I died probably.
Damn I must suck with tanks if 30-40 is your usual gain with them.
I main tanks and get 20-30 per win lol
Same. I only sometimes get 30+ if the team miraculously lets me play DPS.
Don't throw it straight down. It's a reproducible bug.
Keep in mind that Zarya is my go-to Tank, and she is honestly more of a Tank/Support hybrid (with a dash of DPS) than a pure Tank Hero. She is the character that brought me up to Platinum in Season 2, and I'm going to focus on her again in the upcoming Season 4 and not rely on playing Ana & co., as I can't get stressed out when playing this game. My friends placed high platinum, and I placed mid gold. We did the same exact games, and lost the same amount. Only difference? They went Zarya & the DPS Heroes, and I went Lucio.
With that said, I do get 30-40 SR when playing a more aggressive Reinhardt, but I just stick to being the resident meat shield with only going on the offensive when it's called for.
How much do you lose for each role though? Maybe it evens out? I don't find climbing as a support main too bad.
Idk, I get gold or silver damage/ elim medals generally when I play heroes like Zarya, D.Va, and Roadhog, and don't get anywhere near that much. Generally I get less than 30.
Karsticles
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How much are you getting/losing for each?
I get about 30 when I play support and 25 when playing DPS/tanks.
On an unrelated note, practicing some Lucio BM.
Need to get a highlight intro though.
Does Lucio's movement affect the trajectory of his boop? That was WAY bigger that I've ever gotten against Roadhog or the other fatties.
Don't think it does. If they are moving towards you your boop won't do much. If they are retreating like the roadhog they'll go flying. Basically depends on the momentum of the enemy. Not sure if distance from the boop affects it though.
It's due to damage input and how frequent it is. Things like zoning and protecting the team is harder to track than damage dealt, which is one of the reasons why win/loss is the only thing that should matter when it comes to ranking. (And it's why I hate that the game punishes Support players for going double duty.)
The distance when you launch a character ultimately depends on which direction they are going & relative to your position. If a Roadhog player is moving to the right and you boop him to the left, he won't travel that far. If it's right and right, he will launch much farther.
Most I ever got playing a tank was 50SR as Reinhardt (not a streak). Only got 5 kills. Did barely anything that game. Just sat there on defence and died on attack. When I get lots of kills or do lots of damage with a tank still get 20-30SR.
Incendiary
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This is good booping info. I've always wondered why sometimes my boops don't seem to have as much as an effect even when I'm the same distance from the boopee.
Newtype-001
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Got carried by a symmetra main at 3.2k on koth
Lol glad no one told the player to switch.
The players name was SYMMONLYBRO.
Lmao
Lol glad no one told the player to switch.
The players name was SYMMONLYBRO.
Lmao
LucidMomentum
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I average 20-30 SR per win, and around 20-25 per loss. How much I climb or fall a night typically depends on how I go 50/50. If it's a streak of wins then a streak of losses I come out on top, but if it's alternating wins and losses I tend to be +-10-20 SR of where I started.
I only ask people to switch if the team comp doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere. Most of the time I say I'll switch because I feel X isn't doing Y and we may want to switch up to get that done.
I only ask people to switch if the team comp doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere. Most of the time I say I'll switch because I feel X isn't doing Y and we may want to switch up to get that done.
This is so strange considering the Nanohana and Pine are still around.
DR2K
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Right, but whats your win rate at? Stats are fine but if youre not winning games maybe you should contribute to the dynamic of the team. The game doesnt live and die by team composition sure.... you can have a pretty bad team on paper and just win on shear talent.(Ive had plenty of games like that) but imagine you decide to run Symmetra on attack on Hanamura.
Your teammates decide to go Lucio, Roadhog, Dva, Tracer,Reinhardt.
The enemy team also has a Symmetra, a Rein, a Roadhog, Mei, a Mercy and a Pharah.
As much as youd like to think youre contributing, youre not because no one is taking care of that Pharah. I think there needs to be a balance between picking what youre best with, picking what your team needs, and switching to something else to counter whatever the enemy team has if its not working. The most frustrating aspect to me of Overwatch are teammates who either a)dont switch ever when its not working or b)switch to soon or switch so much that they never built up any ults.
Im also not saying you do or dont do any of those things.... this is just a general rant not directly directed to you... just replying to your comment based on what other people have said etc.
I have no objection to switching if I feel like I'm not carrying my weight or my team isn't working, but I feel like the burdon of switching should be on the players performing poorly.
FatCatAttack
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The best way to play "off-meta" characters is to hard commit. Playing Hanzo in comp my success rate in coming in without joining team chat is 100 percent. If they see you come in pre-muted (you can tell people always check when somebody picks something different since you see them stop bouncing around in the spawn and stand still) they get scared and leave you alone. Talking in comms makes them believe they can convince you to switch. Even if you do, this will cause a tilt chain reaction because they believe they have control over you and you will get blamed for everything. Even on maps like koth where every new round is a blank slate.
Had a game on gibralter with a symm only player. No one said a word the whole match. No callouts no nothing. Literally the easiest game I played all season. We pushed super fast with what felt like a perma uptime shield generator and on defense the enemy team didn't even get under the bridge.
Literally every disaster game always begins with some guy putting on faux friendliness with some cheeky "Hello team! Let's win the videogame!" Bonus points if it's a Rhein or Zenyatta picker. Those are pretty much guaranteed to be screaming like banshees in 5 minutes. You can tell they got this 'hot tip' for team bonding online either from reddit or some shit youtuber like Your Overwatch (avoid this channel in particular at all costs)
Really? Is this true? PSN brethrens I am never playing support again.
Terareflection
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Pretty upset that Blizzard hasn't fixed the Mercy and Sombra bugs. What's going on?
Hopefully the next bug fixes are included with the Bastion buffs update.
Tfw a solo queue support in season 1 so never realised I was getting shafted on SR until it got fixed and I had already started using Zarya for season 2 instead.
Oh cool. Most other characters pale in comparison to playing Ana/Zen/Lucio anyway.
Ya, that's been fixed for a long time.
Her Guardian Angel gets fucked up on KOTH maps, but only after the first round.
Ooh. That's a nail in her coffin on those maps then.
And on a related note, the toggle for Widowmaker and Ana's scope has a similar issue.
Ghost is Bad
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man wtf is up with koreas teams lol
Newtype-001
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lol, wow
killdatninja
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If they're jumping/running away from you, they will go out further than normal. If there is an enemy lucio speed boosting and they're jumping, they will go FLYING!
Yeah, celebritiesin the west have always exploited their fame and popularity and there's never any repercussions like this. Guess social expectations are wildly different.
I remember reading that female Kpop singers are not allowed to have boyfriends because it makes them less desirable. Maybe it's the same for esport players however funny that might be.
Antiwhippy
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Thing about support sr gain is that it measures a lot more than just your healing.
For example it really values ana's and zen's ability to frag. For ana the amount of sleep you can land affects it as well.
For Lucio it's also about frags and ability to get offensive assists.
So yeah you really can't be passively healing as support.
For example it really values ana's and zen's ability to frag. For ana the amount of sleep you can land affects it as well.
For Lucio it's also about frags and ability to get offensive assists.
So yeah you really can't be passively healing as support.
Wouldn't be surprised. Esports players in Korea are celebrities. Popular/good-looking Starcraft players used to end up on magazine covers, put in commercials, and brought in for game shows, just like boy band members.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
This is arguably good for lunatic hai though, because it means esca can play instead of leetaejun.
Ghost is Bad
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LTJ wasn't that bad vs AFREECA Red. Plus, they lost Dean too.
Antiwhippy
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Eh, he's real hit or miss though. And with mccree back in the meta it would be good to have their mccree back.
Also Dean wasn't playing in lieu of zunba anyway.
Also Dean wasn't playing in lieu of zunba anyway.
It's an easy bug to fix, you just have to go into options and tick the relevant options back and forth and then click Apply.
It's just really annoying to have to do that for every round, other than the very first.
scotcheggz
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Fuck the dva nerf, all I ever hear now is some monkey dva player spamming "I need healing" over and over. I so want to slam that fucking button up her arse.
Hellwarden
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Am I wrong for thinking you should be able to use the payload as cover against D.Va's ult?
Seems odd that you can't.
Seems odd that you can't.
Don Draper's Hat
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You can.
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