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Overwatch |OT8| Our love will last Pharah-ver
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Silver and low gold is way worse, it's not even a comparison.
The Wizard
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Log in and notice I've lost 150 SR to decay. Decide to play some comp to stem the bleeding, Everyone is still playing bastion meta on console. Guess I'll check back tomorrow then.
Newtype-001
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Harbleu shares my hate of mercys <3 https://clips.twitch.tv/AmazingFantasticPancakeTheThing
I've been on but I guess I'm not on your friends list anymore lol
FiveSix4Three
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Its amazing the amount of stress that is lifted in gold by instalocking soldier or tracer.
Had a mercy main in my placement game who was 3900. Team dies but I manage to escape. We regroup but not enough healing so at can't engage yet. Wondering why mercy wasn't healing. Turns out she was near their spawn losing a 1 V 1 to their mercy.
I feel bad for Mercies that take the surprising amount of damage meme as actual advice to use the pistol.
I don't know why Mercy has a "Solo Kills" stat on Overbuff. The higher that stat, the worse the Mercy.
Shake Appeal
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Since turning off voice chat and putting on music instead, I've climbed from my low point of 2450 (immediately after placements, when I was on a gross losing streak) to about 2750.
The other key is to not let anyone else play Ana or Soldier, I've discovered.
The other key is to not let anyone else play Ana or Soldier, I've discovered.
I'll play zen as long as there's a lucio/ana (map depending)
I can play Zen for that. Did that in placements with no issues as long as other people know to focus on him.
Yeah don't know what they were doing. Guessing they disengaged but they should've just jumped off. Staggered deaths and we lost that team fight since they engaged us right after mercy died. Lost that round but won the game at least.
Shake Appeal
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Mercy's pistol's hurtbox is insane, though. It's like firing bowling balls.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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I've been playing all solo queue this season and have been doing just that. After 3 seasons in the 2800 range, I have decided that comms are mostly worthless in that elo and below (when solo queing). People will generally not listen to call outs and strategy and the flaming and tilting of others occurs often and is detrimental. The few times I have joined voice this season upon specific request, the person requesting usually turns out to be a huge jerk and I find myself just muting and squelching them. There are times when it has been useful but it's rare.
I always use coms if I'm playing with anyone else but I'm finding it to just not be worth it when I'm solo. I'm also maining DPS this season while solo and DPS get a lot of flak when things go awry. As a DPS it's easier to focus and come back with huge results after a bad engage and win when people aren't constantly screaming in your ear to swap within the first 30 seconds of the game.
Nuno Pinto
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I'm playing way too late for you on the week, usually 0-1am, though that might change in this one. My SR right now is 2750, if we play together the average will be around 3000SR. In theory the games should be easier, but I don't know if there's also a higher chance of getting throwers compared to games with an average 200-300SR higher than that. I'm always up to play with you when I'm in a comp mood.
Bastions in my games have been hilarious. He's OP for sure, but a lot of people overestimate his abilities, you can't just be by yourself in sentry mode completely exposed and expect to survive lmao
And yeah, I'm also not using mic anymore. If I'm in a group I turn voice chat on, but I'm not speaking anymore. My concentration levels are much higher this way, and in my last games I didn't felt like the talk was helping at all... on the contrary, only makes me feel more frustrated.
He needs a team to babysit him do to anything. So yea, he's not that much of a threat.
Nuno Pinto
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CybernatonEvolution
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Wow. No wonder my stats are shit compared to last season. I just had a complete shutdown in Hanamura defense with Soldier, and quick rush to cap the point when we attacked (team did well and changed). The only person that rubbed me the wrong way was our Junkrat; he doesn't give a shit about team comp and died instantly at the choke point instead of taking the high ground or spamming form a safe place.
In every competitive game I had, a Junkrat must have been there, and he was argumentative and mostly refuses to switch. Seriously. Junkrat is the new Hanzo; at least Hanzo has his shitty arrow and ult+grav combo.
I am probably a game away from gold. Last game was good; we had good communication and our plan worked. Hopefully low level players will start rushing choke points and choosing dive characters more instead of dying at choke points. They just give Sym and turret characters too much respect; just rush them and capitalize when a flanker starts poking the team from behind; it is like they freeze, watch you die while preparing a toxic team message that says die with us behind the choke point. I recall going behind the team and destroying EVERY Sym turret there with Tracer, so half of their DAMAGED team starts chasing me and my team didn't respond. It is partially my fault for not calling them via voice channel even if they don't want to listen (it was QP with me preparing Tracer for comp).
I had some good games with Tracer and Winston lately; I am getting the hang of them. I previously avoided DPS heroes because of my ping and lack of map knowledge (health packs specifically). My aim got much better too, even though I don't have aim issues in another games. I bought the G502 logitech FPS (optical is much better than laser) mouse and it is really great; that and practicing aim in custom games.
Speaking of my gaming mouse, the last one I had was brand new, but it was cheap. I bought cheap stuff because I already have another set and I am transporting my whole damn PC with me every weekend. So the new cheap one has a shitty laser and low DPI. When I do fast movements like concussive blast behind and then look in front again (-180 degrees and back to neutral), the mouse actually slows down as in it cannot read movements that fast. I tried messing around with dpi settings but it was clearly a crappy laser issue lol. It was hilarious; flicks were very inaccurate with MCree and Widow.
In every competitive game I had, a Junkrat must have been there, and he was argumentative and mostly refuses to switch. Seriously. Junkrat is the new Hanzo; at least Hanzo has his shitty arrow and ult+grav combo.
I am probably a game away from gold. Last game was good; we had good communication and our plan worked. Hopefully low level players will start rushing choke points and choosing dive characters more instead of dying at choke points. They just give Sym and turret characters too much respect; just rush them and capitalize when a flanker starts poking the team from behind; it is like they freeze, watch you die while preparing a toxic team message that says die with us behind the choke point. I recall going behind the team and destroying EVERY Sym turret there with Tracer, so half of their DAMAGED team starts chasing me and my team didn't respond. It is partially my fault for not calling them via voice channel even if they don't want to listen (it was QP with me preparing Tracer for comp).
I had some good games with Tracer and Winston lately; I am getting the hang of them. I previously avoided DPS heroes because of my ping and lack of map knowledge (health packs specifically). My aim got much better too, even though I don't have aim issues in another games. I bought the G502 logitech FPS (optical is much better than laser) mouse and it is really great; that and practicing aim in custom games.
Speaking of my gaming mouse, the last one I had was brand new, but it was cheap. I bought cheap stuff because I already have another set and I am transporting my whole damn PC with me every weekend. So the new cheap one has a shitty laser and low DPI. When I do fast movements like concussive blast behind and then look in front again (-180 degrees and back to neutral), the mouse actually slows down as in it cannot read movements that fast. I tried messing around with dpi settings but it was clearly a crappy laser issue lol. It was hilarious; flicks were very inaccurate with MCree and Widow.
The Wizard
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Karsticles
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Who are a few pro Roadhog players to watch?
Nuno Pinto
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Yeah, if they are discorded they should know what's coming.
But they don't. Still in the same spot 5 seconds after with no Rein to protect them. Pls
Harbleu would be my best suggestion to watch. He plays zarya a lot too though.
It's funny. As soon as they get Discorded, the Bastion players try to run away to get it off them. Like clockwork.
Most of that gold damage was probably from spamming at large, impossible to miss barriers.
DrRiku isn't pro, but he is a god Hog
https://www.twitch.tv/drriku
Harb is awesome, but he does play a lot of Zarya.
ROBOKITTYZILLA
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Harbleau, Hymzi, Agilities, Taimou, Evermore (KR).
I also saw Seagull and GrimReality with some good Hog play even though they don't typically play that hero. KOREA (KOREA10) isn't pro but he seems to play a pretty good Hog on stream often.
LucidMomentum
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Didn't get to play this weekend.
Did I miss anything or has the meta settled down a bit post Bastion buffs?
Did I miss anything or has the meta settled down a bit post Bastion buffs?
Karsticles
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Thanks!
So I watched this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiWJtxQookg
And he plays how I do, which is the opposite of how people here said to play Hog. He's not tanking the team fights, he's roaming and taking picks, even to the point where he stalks a Lucio for a good 2 minutes toward the end instead of protecting the payload. I don't know what to think. :-/
TheLetdown
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I was on a tilt and tried to force my last two placements, which were losses, and landed in the mid-2800s. I've been playing solo since. Hit a personal low, dipping into the 2700s, where I've never been.
But I'm back in the 2800s. I go up to 2890 and then I fall down to 2810. Back and forth, all weekend long. Ugly, ugly weekend.
I need to duo/trio to break through to the other side but haven't caught anyone on.
Also, FYI for everyone: Zarya at max charge using just her beam cannot out-damage Bastion's self-heal when he's in turret mode. Bastion never gains any ground, but she can't kill him with that alone. You'll eventually reload and he'll poke you.
I had a round the other day as Zen on Hanamura. We had a Mei that would wall when Rein's shield would drop. I kept a discord on Bastion and charged alt-fire. When he blasted through Mei's wall, I'd let it go. Killed him around 3 times that way before he finally changed his tactics. By then, it was too late and they never took point A.
Zen smokes Bastion if he can peek around corners or have some type of protection.
CybernatonEvolution
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I just hate Bastion. Why? Because you need your WHOLE team to know how to deal with him. The moment they are afraid and they don't know how to navigate the map, you lose. It is stupid because today I had a game in Anubis where our generic Bastion player who stood in one place behind my shield got cheesed by the other team when they rushed left in the first point and flanked us from the right. I shielded them and pointed out the direction of the other team, yet fucking Bastion didn't change position, and my team didn't kill the damn overextended rein that I baited from the other team.
Next round, I tell them to use the same standard strategy to attack point A in Anubs that the other team demonstrated live in front of them, yet I find myself alone and FUCKED in the left hallway even though I told them I am going there. Okay, shit happens, I tell them to regroup and go left, then I flank left from windows above yet they still die and I've never been healed (ironically, Ana blamed me and started cussing when we lost). I killed their Bastion and Mercy at the same time, and nothing happens. We still lose after D.Va ults and our Reinhardt is not Reinhardt anymore (could have blocked the ult AND allowed us to shoot into our Zarya's grav). A lot of stuff happened in that game that were wrong, but the most jarring was that Bastion; it happened in front of them. The other team showed them how to enter and take point A. It is ridiculous.
I just can't wait until Bastion becomes irrelevant again. There is no point in having a systematically powerful team just because of one stupid character that requires too much attention from both sides. It negates all the mechanical skill and positioning that you would have in a non-Bastion game. His issue is high DPS; the game doesn't work well with high DPS characters that can have healers and barriers around them; it is stupid. Get the fucking memo and nerf that gimmicky piece of shit. How generic can you get with a moving, self-healing, high DPS turret? Just make anything other than that.
Next round, I tell them to use the same standard strategy to attack point A in Anubs that the other team demonstrated live in front of them, yet I find myself alone and FUCKED in the left hallway even though I told them I am going there. Okay, shit happens, I tell them to regroup and go left, then I flank left from windows above yet they still die and I've never been healed (ironically, Ana blamed me and started cussing when we lost). I killed their Bastion and Mercy at the same time, and nothing happens. We still lose after D.Va ults and our Reinhardt is not Reinhardt anymore (could have blocked the ult AND allowed us to shoot into our Zarya's grav). A lot of stuff happened in that game that were wrong, but the most jarring was that Bastion; it happened in front of them. The other team showed them how to enter and take point A. It is ridiculous.
I just can't wait until Bastion becomes irrelevant again. There is no point in having a systematically powerful team just because of one stupid character that requires too much attention from both sides. It negates all the mechanical skill and positioning that you would have in a non-Bastion game. His issue is high DPS; the game doesn't work well with high DPS characters that can have healers and barriers around them; it is stupid. Get the fucking memo and nerf that gimmicky piece of shit. How generic can you get with a moving, self-healing, high DPS turret? Just make anything other than that.
BossDarkseid
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I've only seen him picked sporadically but he doesn't seem THAT hard to burst down.
I played Zenyatta for 3 matches in a row (King's Row, Gibraltar, King's Row) and he was one the first two and it was pretty easy for someone to do normal flanking while I debuffed him and Kamehameha'd him. He's getting nerfed a tad, I believe, and it's certainly something he could do with because it feels like he can suck too much out of a team if people don't know how to deal with. That's probably as it should be (if you don't know + adapt you should lose), but equally he's just a bit too tanky.
In other news, made it to Diamond for 2nd season in a row which is nice. Sometimes those matches that will tip you over the edge are so tense that by the end of if I feel all Inner Me vs Battle Zenyatta:
Esp when you're so close to wwinning and the team go on Bilbo-esque adventures
edgefusion
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Why do people hate Zenyatta? I get worse abuse than when I choose Sombra :v
Dead Prince
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getting a little better shooting. also i LOVE the sleep animation when you dart a pharah in the air. her ugly but gracious falling from the sky is great lol. we had a soldier who didn't do shit through a game. i took her down with my dart than the soldier did (which only killed her because he had ult)
Really? Zen is one one of the best heroes, imo. What rank are you?
Because he's not Lucio or Ana.
It's Blizzard's fault for making those two the dominant Supports to such a degree that people get mad at you for picking anything else.
edgefusion
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Hazardous Metal
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Reading all of your placement match horror stories, I don't understand how I got off so well in comparison. I ended the last season at 3009 SR and after W7-L3 placement matches I ended up at 2950. I won one game and I was back where I was last season.
Lucky?
Lucky?
Because he don't have burst healing. But in comps that have a lot of squishies (200 hp) characters and few tanks, I would argue Zenyatta is a better pick over the average Ana.
Can't really tell you anything about it since I don't play hog. I stick behind rein though on the rare time I do play him. Probably because he's playing against diamonds instead of the usual GMs so he can afford to play like that? Better to find a game with him playing better players.
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Hazardous Metal
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Harbleu himself would tell you that he only does this in Competitive because he knows he can get away with it. He's specifically said that in a team environment/higher SR match going for those roaming picks can end up fucking you and your team over if you get caught out. It really just depends on the coordination of yours and the enemy team.
Man, his Discord is so good that I dunno why anyone would bitch about him. Oh well, can't win them all.
Karsticles
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Dead Prince
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rogue zen is best zen until you realize theres no healers on your team. feelsbadman. i can do both until team decides to go behind a wall. bitch. if blizz buff zen to allow heals through walls it would be great.
i need to learn a tank. because everyone rushes to pick support during comp.
i picked zarya which i'm so bad at it. need to learn how to put up barrier and shield others better. luckily QP still allows me to goof around and learn until they get people whining like they trying to recruit people or something.
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