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Paapa Essiedu Eyed to Play Severus Snape in HBO’s Harry Potter TV Show (Exclusive)

bitbydeath

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There are not enough LOL emoji’s in the world.

The British 'I May Destroy You' actor is being eyed for a fan-favorite role in the eagerly anticipated fantasy series.

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Mattyp

Not the YouTuber
Fan favourite by who? No Harry Potter fans. This is just a legit drum up of fake news.

I have faith in JK since she’s got fair bit of creative control over this not letting it go to the dogs there’s black positions to fill already.
 

Rockondevil

Member
A black dude ain't giving me Snape vibes in any way whatsoever. His appearance matters to the character in this case.

Sure, you could arguably make Hermione black and nothing would matter, but this one does.

But hey I've always got the movies for me if this turns out garbage like I expect it will.
 

AfricanKing

Banned
Fan favourite by who? No Harry Potter fans. This is just a legit drum up of fake news.

I have faith in JK since she’s got fair bit of creative control over this not letting it go to the dogs there’s black positions to fill already.

JK might have strong conservative views when it comes to gender but she’s very fucking liberal

If the person who wrote the books doesn’t care about the race of person playing them .. neither should you

 
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Mattyp

Not the YouTuber
JK might have strong conservative views when it comes to gender but she’s very fucking liberal

If the person who wrote the books doesn’t care about the race of person playing them .. neither should you


That was a long long time ago, then they attacked her for some of her comments and she’s gone full anti woke/trans mindset to openly attacking them now the same as some of her writing under alias is pretty based.

She’s not racist by any means at all and never was, but she won’t be appeasing the liberal retards.
 

Soodanim

Member
JK might have strong conservative views when it comes to gender but she’s very fucking liberal

If the person who wrote the books doesn’t care about the race of person playing them .. neither should you

In fairness, Harmione was originally designed and written as white. This is Rowling’s drawing of the group. It’s noted as Gary but later became Dean. Note the skin shading that the others lack.

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Then you’ve got the only mentions in the book, where she made reference Ron getting freckles and Hermione looking brown. That wouldn’t have been an observation if she were already brown.

Good acting is the most important thing, but before JKR’s current reputation she had a bit of a reputation for changing things after the fact. Gay Dumbledore is the biggest example.

But the other important point to mention for balance is that Harry Potter doesn’t make too many references to skin colour. It’s a world within a world where it’s full of pure bloodlines contrasting the muggle born wizards, which is critical to the world building. Kingsley Shacklebolt is part of one of those pure families and is definitely black, so skin tone is more as it should be in the real world - it carries no more weight than hair or eye colour.

Snape should be a very specific casting. Not for his tone, but for his description as a character. Whatshisface in the OP does not strike me as that by any stretch of the imagination, so if that’s the direction let’s see if they can pull it off.
 
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xrnzaaas

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Should have been Adam Driver
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After a quick google search it seems he's starred in Girls for HBO, but after Star Wars he became a much bigger star and I'm not sure if he would commit to a (potentially) long-running tv series.
 

AfricanKing

Banned
That was a long long time ago, then they attacked her for some of her comments and she’s gone full anti woke/trans mindset to openly attacking them now the same as some of her writing under alias is pretty based.

She’s not racist by any means at all and never was, but she won’t be appeasing the liberal retards.

She’s had her trans views for a long time - and Snapes race has zero bearing on the character. Jk doesn’t care so neither should you

I’m sorry you’re getting a black Snape and no amount of mental gymnastics will make it any better. HBO have confirmed it will be a very diverse cast JK has no creative decision in the TV show like the Game.

😎😎
 

Kraz

Member
He's done Shakespeare/theater, like Rickman had.
He can bring that experience to the role as well. Likely do very well with the role.

The casting could change the way some characters are viewed by their behavior towards Snape.
Could bring fresh elements to the story.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Rowling wouldn't allow that.

Yes she would. She’s repeatedly said she supports trans people and their right to exist and work. Her issue is when they try to enter women’s safe spaces and ignore biological facts. I can absolutely see her encouraging a trans person to be part of the series, in a similar way it happened in Hogwarts Legacy.
 
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FunkMiller

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JK might have strong conservative views when it comes to gender but she’s very fucking liberal

If the person who wrote the books doesn’t care about the race of person playing them .. neither should you


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She doesn’t have conservative views about gender! She’s very liberal when it comes to women’s equality and feminism. She just doesn’t think men can become women. She’s a staunch labour voter (when they’re being sensible) and dead set against the Conservatives.

Being gender critical and believing in biological facts is not a conservative point of view!

Shape being black is fine. We don’t just want a bloody Rickman impression.
 
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bitbydeath

Member
After a quick google search it seems he's starred in Girls for HBO, but after Star Wars he became a much bigger star and I'm not sure if he would commit to a (potentially) long-running tv series.
Nothing big after Star Wars.
The Dead Don’t Die in 2019 was alright.
 

Zathalus

Member
My position is the same as always, if the race of the character is not integral to the character then it does not really matter that much. Denzel Washington played an excellent Hamlet. Quality of acting really matters far more.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Why are they making another adaptation of the books? There are plenty of stories they could tell in this universe in and out of Hogwarts. Do we need the same story again?
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
Dude is talented as fuck and nothing against him but c'mon. He isn't Snape.

I didn't even care about the whole Hermione being black thing. It's not just about race. I just can't see him as snape.

I do hope he gets a role in the show but just not Snape.

Why are they making another adaptation of the books? There are plenty of stories they could tell in this universe in and out of Hogwarts. Do we need the same story again?
The thing is the movies weren't completely accurate to the books. Prisoner of Azkaban pretty much completely skips over all of the Marauders. All we get is the map and find out that it was Harry's dad. Goblet of Fire misses out a lot. Order of the Phoenix even more. Half Blood Prince focuses a lot on Harry/Dumbledore learning how to defeat Voldemort but they wanted to make it more into a teen romance movie.

Scenes/plots I want to see on screen that weren't in the movies:

The two scenes of Weasley's and Dumbledore picking harry up from Dursley's in GoF + HBP. Weasley's destroy their house and Dumbledore talks shit to them.

SPEW/more house elf stuff

Marauders (not just the map)

Seeing Neville's parents and the whole St Mungos scene.

Peeves

Two Way mirror (it is in the movies but not as important as the books)

Lots of foreshadowing scenes were cut from earlier movies.

Ginny not being a dumb idiot

Deathday Party

More HBP voldemort related flashback scenes. I want to see Trelawney make her original prophecy, Dumbledore interviewing Voldemort to be a teacher, the Gaunts, and Hepzibah,

there is actually too much stuff to list that was left out the movies.
 

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Dude is talented as fuck and nothing against him but c'mon. He isn't Snape.

I didn't even care about the whole Hermione being black thing. It's not just about race. I just can't see him as snape.

I do hope he gets a role in the show but just not Snape.


The thing is the movies weren't completely accurate to the books. Prisoner of Azkaban pretty much completely skips over all of the Marauders. All we get is the map and find out that it was Harry's dad. Goblet of Fire misses out a lot. Order of the Phoenix even more. Half Blood Prince focuses a lot on Harry/Dumbledore learning how to defeat Voldemort but they wanted to make it more into a teen romance movie.

Scenes/plots I want to see on screen that weren't in the movies:

The two scenes of Weasley's and Dumbledore picking harry up from Dursley's in GoF + HBP. Weasley's destroy their house and Dumbledore talks shit to them.

SPEW/more house elf stuff

Marauders (not just the map)

Seeing Neville's parents and the whole St Mungos scene.

Peeves

Two Way mirror (it is in the movies but not as important as the books)

Lots of foreshadowing scenes were cut from earlier movies.

Ginny not being a dumb idiot

Deathday Party

More HBP voldemort related flashback scenes. I want to see Trelawney make her original prophecy, Dumbledore interviewing Voldemort to be a teacher, the Gaunts, and Hepzibah,

there is actually too much stuff to list that was left out the movies.

Making the same story into a TV series doesn't mean it'll be accurate to the books.

Look at Game of Thrones. It was pretty accurate in season 1, then the accuracy fell off a cliff. Once we got to season 2 it became an alternative universe with some of the same story beats.

With this series, it'll be the same main story as in the books and films, just with some extra steps.

Instead they could have done something new. Maybe a future series decades after the events of HP. Maybe a series in a completely different school. The possibilities were endless, but instead it's the same story told a third time. Creativity bankrupt.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
Making the same story into a TV series doesn't mean it'll be accurate to the books.

Look at Game of Thrones. It was pretty accurate in season 1, then the accuracy fell off a cliff. Once we got to season 2 it became an alternative universe with some of the same story beats.

With this series, it'll be the same main story as in the books and films, just with some extra steps.

Instead they could have done something new. Maybe a future series decades after the events of HP. Maybe a series in a completely different school. The possibilities were endless, but instead it's the same story told a third time. Creativity bankrupt.
of course it doesn't but it gives them more freedom. the movies are no more than 3 hours per book. a show can be double that at least. so yeah i'm not expecting them to be 100% faithful to the books but we should get a more faithful adaptation. I know a book doesn't exactly translate to the screen so there will inevitably be things cut.

The good thing with HP is that it's done. GoT was different because GRRM couldn't be arsed to actually finish the books. It was left up to the show producers to work with whatever he gave them.

Yeah something different would be cool but first I'd like something that is actually closer to the books. I love the movies and grew up with them but they miss out a lot.
 

Soodanim

Member
Dude is talented as fuck and nothing against him but c'mon. He isn't Snape.

I didn't even care about the whole Hermione being black thing. It's not just about race. I just can't see him as snape.

I do hope he gets a role in the show but just not Snape.


The thing is the movies weren't completely accurate to the books. Prisoner of Azkaban pretty much completely skips over all of the Marauders. All we get is the map and find out that it was Harry's dad. Goblet of Fire misses out a lot. Order of the Phoenix even more. Half Blood Prince focuses a lot on Harry/Dumbledore learning how to defeat Voldemort but they wanted to make it more into a teen romance movie.

Scenes/plots I want to see on screen that weren't in the movies:

The two scenes of Weasley's and Dumbledore picking harry up from Dursley's in GoF + HBP. Weasley's destroy their house and Dumbledore talks shit to them.

SPEW/more house elf stuff

Marauders (not just the map)

Seeing Neville's parents and the whole St Mungos scene.

Peeves

Two Way mirror (it is in the movies but not as important as the books)

Lots of foreshadowing scenes were cut from earlier movies.

Ginny not being a dumb idiot

Deathday Party

More HBP voldemort related flashback scenes. I want to see Trelawney make her original prophecy, Dumbledore interviewing Voldemort to be a teacher, the Gaunts, and Hepzibah,

there is actually too much stuff to list that was left out the movies.
100% all of this. The later the book is the more things that were left out, for obvious reasons. I was genuinely disappointed when movie 8 didn’t do any justice to the scene when Carrow spits on McGonagall and Harry loses his shit out of instinctive rage, takes off the invisibility cloak, and Crucios the shit out of him, understanding what he was told in an earlier book that you have to mean it for it to work properly. That’s some real visceral shit and it’s nowhere to be seen in the movie. The moment they stepped back in the castle they said fuck it. I’ll happily wait 7 years for that scene alone. Don’t even get me started on Harry vs Voldy’s flying adventure… which reminds me of flying death eaters. The more I think the more I remember.

I’ve highlighted two important ones for me that deserve to be put to film. Especially the Riddle flashbacks, they’re the highlight of the book for me. Another one is the full maze sequence from GOF with all the creatures. Also the full Department of Mysteries.
 

GymWolf

Member
Yeah put me in the team that always wanted a more accurate depiction of the books.

Too bad this also doesn't look the case for different reasons, if you fuck up the casting of someone important like snape i don't even wanna know how much thing they are gonna fuck up.
 

rm082e

Member
People are free to do whatever they like.

But if you make a new thing that's based on the old thing I like, and then you change the new thing so it's different from the old thing, any excitement I had about seeing a new thing based on the old thing I like goes away. Now I'm instinctually going to judge the new thing as a totally new thing that is unconnected to the old thing I like.

My default attitude towards all totally new things is to ignore them unless I hear more than a few people loudly saying it's great. Somehow I doubt taking an old thing and making changes to it is going to produce a totally new thing that's amazing. It can happen, like with Battle Star Galactica, but it's really really rare.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
100% all of this. The later the book is the more things that were left out, for obvious reasons. I was genuinely disappointed when movie 8 didn’t do any justice to the scene when Carrow spits on McGonagall and Harry loses his shit out of instinctive rage, takes off the invisibility cloak, and Crucios the shit out of him, understanding what he was told in an earlier book that you have to mean it for it to work properly. That’s some real visceral shit and it’s nowhere to be seen in the movie. The moment they stepped back in the castle they said fuck it. I’ll happily wait 7 years for that scene alone. Don’t even get me started on Harry vs Voldy’s flying adventure… which reminds me of flying death eaters. The more I think the more I remember.

I’ve highlighted two important ones for me that deserve to be put to film. Especially the Riddle flashbacks, they’re the highlight of the book for me. Another one is the full maze sequence from GOF with all the creatures. Also the full Department of Mysteries.
fuck that final fight between Harry and Voldemort. they had to bring back the priori incantem shit where they shoot bright beams of wand shite at each other. i get it's a movie and they want to add some action to the scene but harry and voldemort hugging each other and going for a little fly around Hogwarts? Fuck off!!

The whole point of the final battle between H + V is that neither of them are that special especially Voldemort. He tried so hard to be immortal but he's still a man. Harry calls him by his real name Tom and then Voldemort dies like any other mortal man. He tried so hard to avoid death but just dies a "boring" death. He gets stuffed in a room out of sight and probably got buried beside his Muggle father who he despised so much.

We don't need any of this Voldy bursting into a ploof of confetti. There is nothing special about him. He isn't gonna just disappear into a puff of shit. He is meant to drop dead like any old person getting shot in the head or heart.
 

Soodanim

Member
I suppose it’s important to remember that Snape and Harry’s parents were aged in the movies because Rickman was so perfect in every other way that they made the age work.

I’m going to keep and open mind and hope that the best people are going to be chosen for the roles. We just need to wait 2.5 years to find out.
 

Chuck Berry

Gold Member
And here I figured the delay was due to them all going back to the drawing board and tossing out all this DEI shit, especially after that quote from HBO stating how much they support Rowling,

whoops GIF
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
I suppose it’s important to remember that Snape and Harry’s parents were aged in the movies because Rickman was so perfect in every other way that they made the age work.

I’m going to keep and open mind and hope that the best people are going to be chosen for the roles. We just need to wait 2.5 years to find out.
Aging up Lily/James/Snape/Lupin/Pettigrew/Sirius (or even the Dursleys/Weasleys) if it meant casting Rickman as Snape....totally worth it.

Anybody who takes the role of Snape is gonna have very fucking big shoes to fill. The same will go for a lot of the characters in the show but Snape is arguably one of (if not) the biggest role to replace outside of Harry, Ron, Hermione and maybe Dumbledore. He's 99.9999% perfect and the only thing that stops him getting 100% is the age thing which is pretty much not an issue.
 
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Kraz

Member
So Harry is mixed race in this? No way Lilly would be friends with a black man all her life and ditch him for a whitey like James.
Racial considerations aside, Snape being Harry's real dad would give more motivation and add complexity for the character. Change the nature of his hostility to Harry to being about something like keeping emotional distance.
 
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