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Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never

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Keylime

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Listening to the soundtrack at work right now and it's making me itch hardcore to see this movie again FUCKING NOW.
 

augmental

Member
I was worried that the action scenes would be hard to follow ala Transformers, but this movie delivered. One thing that bothered me was
Raleigh's pompous little strut
that he has. They showed that way too much. Also, I wanted
more Cherno!!
, oh well. Will watch again.
 

KingGondo

Banned
This is going to be one of those films that absolutely kills it on home media, especially if WB/Legendary do a decent job with the packaging/features.
Yep. Someone was mentioning earlier that a 3-hour director's cut is a possibility.

Plus the merchandising has a chance to be big as well.
 

augmental

Member
Even if this doesn't do well in the U.S., international audiences are gonna eat this up...right?

The Japanese should eat this up right? I would assume there are a million collectibles going on over there for this movie...or is it just that exclusive poster with the MGS artist?
 
I wanted more use of the sword. I DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SWORD. Why did no one mention this to me.
It added a completely new dynamic to the fight choreography. It felt like I was watching a modern showing of the Master Megazord. Maybe that's why I feel so giddy right now
 
I've strongly resisted buying the figures/toys because, well, I don't really need any more stuff like that around my place. But I imagine it'll be a bit harder to resist once I see the damn thing tomorrow.
 
I've strongly resisted buying the figures/toys because, well, I don't really need any more stuff like that around my place. But I imagine it'll be a bit harder to resist once I see the damn thing tomorrow.

Give in. You know you want to.

I can attest that the figs are very high quality. I have them all.
 

augmental

Member
I've strongly resisted buying the figures/toys because, well, I don't really need any more stuff like that around my place. But I imagine it'll be a bit harder to resist once I see the damn thing tomorrow.

You're going to buy the Gipsy Danger figure from NECA just like I did. No point in resisting now. It's going on the desk.
 

laaame

Member
How crowded were the theaters you guys were in?

About 1/5 full for the first 3D imax showing. Was able to get a nice seat with space around me and there still posters left =(.

At least after watching it, I see this movie has everything it needs to succeed in the international/ East Asian market.
 

Raptor

Member
I wanted more use of the sword. I DID NOT KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SWORD. Why did no one mention this to me. It added a completely new dynamic to the fight choreography. It felt like I was watching a modern showing of the Master Megazord. Maybe that's why I feel so giddy right now

SPOILERS!!!

For Christ sakes!1
 

TheWriter

Member
Just saw it. Didn't expect story, didn't get story, but oh my god for two hours I was being a child again.

Amazing use of weapons, both build-in and provisional.
Rocket Elbow Holy Moley! Sword Mode Jesus Christ!

Also, (character spoiler)
dat Ron Perlman.

Cinema was mostly empty, 10 people with me, but of course the dudes behind me couldn't shut up.

Will buy on Blu-Ray, fantastic movie.
 
There were only eight people last night, including me but to be fair the entire theatre was nearly empty. I'm not feeling this going to do well in the US hopefully it finds its legs WW.
 

Salamando

Member
HOLY CRAP it has the SWORD too. I'm too old to be buying this stuff though. Ha, yeah right. Doesn't look like there is a release date though, and that picture looks like a shop of the 7" version, hmm.

SDCC is next week. Expect it to make an appearance there, along with any other Jaegers or Kaiju they're releasing in waves 2 and hopefully 3 (or however many waves it takes to get to Cherno Alpha).
 

coldfoot

Banned
Another criticism of this movie, I know it's not supposed to be realistic and that's what enables us to see fight robots vs. monsters, but
the wall is an incredibly stupid plot device, they EVEN show it doesn't work, but the Striker Eureka does, yet the world governments still insist on it.
Horrible, it should have been something that would make more sense like a secret superweapon or something like that.
 

mjc

Member
I'd say this would have to do $100-$150mil domestically and then international BOs can pick up the slack and reign in an additional $150-250mil. That should be enough to warrant a sequel when its all said and done. Especially considering the merchandising opportunities and huge upswing a sequel could have in terms of popularity once it hits DVD/Blu-ray.
 
You can dislike Pacific Rim for being what it is and I'm generally accepting of the dissenting opinions in the thread. I can totally understand how folks would walk away thinking its all cheesy with paper thin characters. Generally more spectacle than substance but at no point does the movie ever try to convince you that it is more than what it is

Maninthemirror said:
but many folks take the try and be serious part and when that failed for them apply to the entire movie

I don't really understand this apologetic argument when it's stated as objective fact, as you and others seem to be doing.

I can completely agree that this film (I'm referring specifically here to PR as I haven't seen Man of Steel) doesn't try to be anything special when it comes to character, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but if you're going to go that route, you have to do it really well - especially when probably less than half of the film is actually robots fighting monsters. And, unfortunately, I found pretty much everything that wasn't robots punching monsters to be incredibly boring and at times painfully written to a level I would expect from far less talented filmmakers.

But others disagree, and that's brilliant, but please don't reduce dissenting opinions to misguidance or incorrect expectations.
 
Only two minor complaints. First, the
gag
with the metal
balls
on the
office desk
that the
robots
slam into and got set off wasn't
funny
, distracted the flow of the
scene
, and got a couple of audible
grunts
from the
audience
. That's probably the only part of the
movie
that didn't elicit the intended
reaction
by the
filmmakers
.

Secondly, and the bigger of the
two
complaints, is I just don't care for
Ron Perlman
. I don't think he's
funny
, or
badass
, or
interesting
, or
whatever
. I didn't like his
"death" scene
, and a lot of people built up the mid
credit
scene, which turned out to be a really
lame
/
flat
joke
involving
him
Surprise, he isn't dead! As if we cared?

Anyway,
it
kind of took off some of the
excitement
I had at the
ending
, even if the parting
shot
itself isn't that
interesting
,
emotional
, or
stirring
.

Edit: The second complaint of mine actually contains a spoiler, which I had spoiler tagged, but someone got mad at the very last line of the original post, so I decided to make sure everything was spoiler tagged since he was upset by that final line.
 

TheWriter

Member
Another criticism of this movie, I know it's not supposed to be realistic and that's what enables us to see fight robots vs. monsters, but
the wall is an incredibly stupid plot device, they EVEN show it doesn't work, but the Striker Eureka does, yet the world governments still insist on it.
Horrible, it should have been something that would make more sense like a secret superweapon that doesn't work or something like that.

I agree with this. What was even their plan?
Build a gigantic wall around the perimeter and just hope those things grow tired of breaking their beaks on it, even though they have shown to possess the power to level whole cities made of the same material as a wall? I know governments and higher-ups are supposed to act stupid in monster movies, but come on.
Very weird decision.
 

Salamando

Member
I agree with this. What was even their plan?
Build a gigantic wall around the perimeter and just hope those things grow tired of breaking their beaks on it, even though they have shown to possess the power to level whole cities made of the same material as a wall? I know governments and higher-ups are supposed to act stupid in monster movies, but come on.
Very weird decision.

Yeah, what government would ever
build a fence along it's border to keep out undesired elements? Really. The Pacific Rim wiki says 26 Jaegers were destroyed before they decided to build the wall. They just saw it as the cheaper option. Put up a wall to keep them away from populated areas while conventional weaponry whittles them down.
 
has this been posted yet?

Great news on the foreign front. Warner Bros says Legendary Pictures’ Pacific Rim opened #1 in all 7 Asian markets on Thursday grossing a total $3.7M from 2,157 screens despite a crowded international marketplace.
 
Another criticism of this movie, I know it's not supposed to be realistic and that's what enables us to see fight robots vs. monsters, but
the wall is an incredibly stupid plot device, they EVEN show it doesn't work, but the Striker Eureka does, yet the world governments still insist on it.
Horrible, it should have been something that would make more sense like a secret superweapon or something like that.

The UN reps said they were losing more Jaegars than they could build. The Kaiju incursions were becoming more frequent. Striker Eureka was an exception, and even then, as we saw, it couldn't prevent damage to the mainland. On paper, the wall seemed like the best option long-term.

By all accounts, the Jaegars had failed. It was only the realisation of how to finally close the rift that managed to save them in the end. Had that also failed, I don't think even a 1000 Jaegars piloted by the most skillful would have saved Earth. The Kaiju would have just gotten bigger and continued to stream in so it was only a matter of time
 
I agree with this. What was even their plan?
Build a gigantic wall around the perimeter and just hope those things grow tired of breaking their beaks on it, even though they have shown to possess the power to level whole cities made of the same material as a wall? I know governments and higher-ups are supposed to act stupid in monster movies, but come on.
Very weird decision.

I thought that maybe, with the escalating sizes of the Kaiju, the plan may have been a good idea "at the time". However, since it was taking so long (remember that graffiti that said it would never be completed?), the Kaiju adapted faster than they could construct.

That's what I inferred, but it's not really implied or said. I agree with the complaint.
I thought they were going to say it wase superduper reinforced or something, but no, they were just big walls.
 

Toxi

Banned
Big walls can hold back a lot of stuff; the problem is that the Kaiju just kept on getting bigger and badder. Compare the size of a category 1 Kaiju to the giants like Leatherback and Otachi.

I'm sad they can't even fit half of Gipsy Danger's arsenal on an action figure.

EDIT: Sorry, I got threads mixed up and thought this was the spoiler thread.
 
Only two minor complaints. First, the gag with the metal balls on the office desk that the robots slam into and got set off wasn't funny, distracted the flow of the scene, and got a couple of audible grunts from the audience.

HA! God thanks for reminding me of that bit. I actually did laugh fairly loudly at that, but only because of the nonsense physics. My screening got a few groans as well, which I think was the only time I heard anything out of them (there was only 20-30 of them).

I can't say it bothered me that much though, but in retrospect, yeah you'd think someone could have come up with something a little funnier.
 
I don't really understand this apologetic argument when it's stated as objective fact, as you and others seem to be doing.
Then you're not understanding that I'm stating opinion and nothing more. I can only state my own judgments of what I watch and I stated them pretty clearly.

If you read that as "objective fact" then I don't know what to tell you. If you honestly feel that Pacific Rim was trying to be more than what it is, then that's clearly your opinion but it's not what I walked away with from the film and I disagree with you.

please don't reduce dissenting opinions to misguidance or incorrect expectations.
Please don't misconstrue subjective analysis of a movies intent as something more than what it is.

You don't want people making reductionist statements about your opinions but then you go ahead and call my comment "apologetic" because you don't happen to agree with it. Alrighty then.
 
You're going to buy the Gipsy Danger figure from NECA just like I did. No point in resisting now. It's going on the desk.

Wow, it's like you're Nostradamus, Mr. Bateman. :)

I'm too easily influenced by GAF. Glad there haven't been any "Jumping off a building is FUN!" threads.
 

coldfoot

Banned
Also I don't know if I saw this right but
aren't the aliens who clone Kaiju small, like closer to human sized so the Kaiju are their version of super-big robots?
I would have liked more exploration into that...
 
Then you're not understanding that I'm stating opinion and nothing more. I can only state my own judgments of what I watch and I stated them pretty clearly.

Well, naturally, after all that's largely my point. But throwing around phrases such as "but at no point does the movie ever try to convince you that it is more than what it is" I'm afraid does come off as apologetic and a refusal of a possibility that it might just not matter to some people's arguments - such is the case with me. That might not be what you intended, after all I did say seem, but that's how it came across.

If you honestly feel that Pacific Rim was trying to be more than what it is...
I very clearly did not. My point is that I found it to be not very good at what it was trying to be.

Also I don't know if I saw this right but
aren't the aliens who clone Kaiju small, like closer to human sized so the Kaiju are their version of super-big robots?
I would have liked more exploration into that...

Certainly seemed that way to me. In my viewing experience though, its usually best when that stuff is left well alone.
 
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