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[Draugoth]

Update: It has been confirmed that the "evidence"has been doctored

I didn't see this posted here, but apparently this guy from the op was lying!!

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The accusations against Palworld took another turn on Sunday, when an anonymous X account appeared claiming to show evidence of not just design inspiration, but plagiarism of actual game assets. User 'Byo' posted several videos comparing Palworld's in-game 3D models to those of Pokémon, and claimed to show evidence that they were likely copied.





While none of the half-dozen models compared by the X user appear to be 1:1 copies, they claimed that their proportions were nearly identical to Pokémon models exported from Switch's Scarlet and Violet games.

According to two experienced AAA game artists who spoke to VGC, the model comparisons on X are likely evidence that Palworld's character models were indeed based on Pokémon assets.

"You cannot, in any way, accidentally get the same proportions on multiple models from another game without ripping the models. Or at the very least, tracing them meticulously first," one senior character artist told VGC anonymously, adding: "I would stand in court to testify as an expert on this." They explained: "To give you an idea of how impossible this is, sometimes we have to copy one mesh to another when we make sequels to games, for example, redrawing an NPC from one game to another, and even when we rework those old models, they only SOMETIMES match this closely due to rigging changes that might need to happen. "There have been times when dozens of artists are given the same concept art to create a 3D model, for example, during art tests for jobs. I've seen 30 artists try to make the same horse using the exact schematics. "None were as close to each other as these Palworld models are to the Pokémon models. None. The silhouettes and proportions here are near-perfect matches."

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[nial]

Pokémanchildren on suicide watch.

 

[Punished Miku]

If they did, then no mercy. Nuke them.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Nintendo about to sue somebody!

 

[nbcjr]

Hope Nintendo goes after them, instead of only acting against individuals that make mods or other small things.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Sounds like reverse engineering to me.

 

[Yerd]

One tail goes up and the other goes down. I don't see the similarities.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

Palworld about to teach us about copyright law, one way or another

 

[AV]

No shit.

 

[tkscz]

Did people forget that when they originally showed their proof of concept that all the models were just pokemon? I still remember the thread here where Nintendo took it down.

 

[diffusionx]

Nintendo lawyers have spent years going after nobodies working on free ROMs and now they have an actual target that is a company with revenue and everything lmao.

 

[FoxMcChief]

You guys don't think Nintendo knew about Palworld before this last Friday? They know there's no fight here.

 

[Yerd]

 

[KaiserBecks]

 

[nowhat]

You guys don't think Nintendo knew about Palworld before this last Friday? They know there's no fight here.

The game wasn't released yet. Nintendo's lawyers are notoriously blood-thirsty. They will absolutely go after them.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Nintendo fans desperately trying to get Palworld taken down. Can't fathom that some no name dev made a better game than Nintendo/Game Freak.

 

[CherryFalls]

Apparently Nintendo own the right to furry creatures. There's really only a small number of things you can do to make a cat like thing. The models have completely different parts when put together, and yea some parts Mach so what, that's just going to happen with a limited design spec

 

[Mownoc]

People so salty about this game they're doing their own investigations now.

 

[nbcjr]

Apparently Nintendo own the right to furry creatures. There's really only a small number of things you can do to make a cat like thing. The models have completely different parts when put together, and yea some parts Mach so what, that's just going to happen with a limited design spec

Have you read the tweet? The meshes are 1:1,this is impossible without copying directly.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I wonder which Nintendo fanboy is it? It is hilarious how many rabid Nintendo fanboys came out of the woodwork due to this game

Imagine comparing two animals and argue that they have tails and fur.

 

[Saber]

Who needs lawyers or detectives when they have soycuks ready to defend 24/6 poor innocent companies? The lenghts they go to prove this is a copy is really admirable(to the point of illegaly extracting models from a rom), the true show of patriotism. They could use this effort to demand better Pokemon games though.

 

[Darkkahn]

Good artists copy, great artists steal.

 

[ManaByte]

Did people go this insane over Digimon?

 

[Fake]

No way. Are you sure? I mean, maybe double check before getting into this conclusion.


Man, pkmn fans are having a hard time I gonna tell you lmao.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Did people go this insane over Digimon?

I don't think so at least that I remember. Palworld is a better game than Pokemon, though, so I think that's what's really upsetting them.

 

[FoxMcChief]

The game wasn't released yet. Nintendo's lawyers are notoriously blood-thirsty. They will absolutely go after them.

If Nintendo thought they would have a case even when the early trailers were released, they would have acquired a cease and desist from the courts.

 

[TommyCronin6969]

People out to rush and defend their favourite billion dollar company as usual

 

[Roman Empire]

Well, basing the models on other pokemons and tweaking them is one thing. Now, ripping off models and just changing a few things is scummy (if that is the case here). Still I want this game to sell bucket loads just to piss off Nintendo and Pokémon fanboys.

 

[nikos]

They should put this much effort into creating something good of their own.

 

[Osaka_Boss]

Is this Company in a free country or in China? Oh... Pocketpair is in Japan... Right next to Nintendo.... Well, Nintendo is going to sue someone Very hard

 

[Kilau]

Who needs Ninjas and lawyers when your fans will work for free to take down the competition.

 

[SJRB]

Grown ass men, like actual adults out there going "noooooo you're copying my favourite children's cartoon, how could you do this. Get them, Nintendo!"

 

[diffusionx]

If Nintendo thought they would have a case even when the early trailers were released, they would have acquired a cease and desist from the courts.

Nintendo knows they can't go after "game with pretend animal-like companions." They can go after games that use Nintendo IP and assets.

 

[ChoosableOne]

 

[struggler_guts]

How much is the fee for infringement? I bet it's less than they've already made lol

 

[nowhat]

If Nintendo thought they would have a case even when the early trailers were released, they would have acquired a cease and desist from the courts.

This is not a fan project. Better hit them when there are sales (and by all accounts there are a ton), makes easier to make the case for damages.

 

[Punished Miku]

They should put this much effort into creating something good of their own.

Palworld you mean?

 

[FingerBang]

The meltdown around this game is reaching Hogwarts Legacy levels of retard.

It's a Pokemon clone! It's using AI!

Wait for the abuse or bigotry allegations. They're coming, because that's what those people do.

 

[ssringo]

PokePals does what Nintendon't

 

[willothedog]

Have you read the tweet? The meshes are 1:1,this is impossible without copying directly.

Its from a Twitter account that has only just been created and only their word on where these models came from.

 

[CherryFalls]

The meltdown around this game is reaching Hogwarts Legacy levels of retard.

It's a Pokemon clone! It's using AI!

Wait for the abuse or bigotry allegations. They're coming, because that's what those people do.

 

[Kaleinc]

People out to rush and defend their favourite billion dollar company as usual

They don't want N to succeed, they just want devs of this trash to fail. Big difference

What's the second lesson

 

[jshackles]

 

[Saber]

Have you read the tweet? The meshes are 1:1,this is impossible without copying directly.

He somehow forgot to mention this game has different sizes of the same models.

"White men yadayadayada"
"We need more intelectual Property protection laws"

Lmao

 

[Vasto]

 

[MagiusNecros]

I dunno I feel like Palworld being a Pokemon game where the Pokemon Trainer(with guns or a sword!) and the Pokemon fight enemies together is pretty hype. Instead of being 12 forever where you just stand around and do nothing.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I just saw a thread about how to improve Pokemon... I had the idea of using a sandbox from the 90s anime series with Ash, Misty and Brock, but what a coincidence that this game arrived with the Mods xD

 

[Guilty_AI]

Who needs lawyers or detectives when they have soycuks ready to defend 24/6 poor innocent companies? The lenghts they go to prove this is a copy is really admirable(to the point of illegaly extracting models from a rom), the true show of patriotism. They could use this effort to demand better Pokemon games though.

would be funny if nintendo ended up suing this twitter user instead of pocketpair

 

[GudOlRub]

Never heard about this game before last week, now I'm thinking of getting it, the seething has been so entertaining to watch that now I want it to succeed just for the lulz

 

[Pop]

Oh Hell yes

I just know they for real mad now