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Paris Terrorist Attacks, 120+ dead. Do not post hearsay/unsourced/old news.
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Insane Metal
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Fuck. Unfortunately, they could do that. On PS4, on XBone, or whatever other kind of service. That sucks. :/
ambientric
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Interesting analysis piece over on politico, raises the point that this and the downing of the Russian airliner may not be "officially sanctioned" isil acts.
The logic being this will hasten the speed with which isil is defeated (in terms of their territory/caliphate being destroyed), now that both Russia and NATO will be doubling down.
No comfort to victims of the Paris attacks of course. Nor future victims, since the end result will likely be more frequent terrorist attacks on western targets as the caliphate enters its death throes.
Longer term, terrorist attacks by militant Islamist groups are simply the new normal. The victimhood and rage are too entrenched to ever be completely resolved, in our lifetimes at least.
The logic being this will hasten the speed with which isil is defeated (in terms of their territory/caliphate being destroyed), now that both Russia and NATO will be doubling down.
No comfort to victims of the Paris attacks of course. Nor future victims, since the end result will likely be more frequent terrorist attacks on western targets as the caliphate enters its death throes.
Longer term, terrorist attacks by militant Islamist groups are simply the new normal. The victimhood and rage are too entrenched to ever be completely resolved, in our lifetimes at least.
Phantast2k
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No need to go there & give them clicks.
Original: https://instagram.com/p/-CmxflK6nu/
(SFW)
I'm sure there'll be more since people like to film at concerts.
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I misread the post. The above is a video inside Bataclan.
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Mad props to that security guard!
SkylineRKR
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The European championships will need the highest level of security. It won't be pretty.
yeah. They failed.
But this belief needs to be eradicated somehow. The danger is that they don't value their own life and are willing to blow themselves up. Even well educated men have converted to this belief and blew themselves up (such as the guys who controlled the planes).
yeah. They failed.
But this belief needs to be eradicated somehow. The danger is that they don't value their own life and are willing to blow themselves up. Even well educated men have converted to this belief and blew themselves up (such as the guys who controlled the planes).
Sun Bather
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They could do it through lots of services, and many would be as, if not more, secure without the need for such time consuming things like this. People communicating privately is not the "scary part of all this" and it will never be stopped, there's always new ways developed to ensure privacy.
I lol'ed. Sorry.
Demoskinos
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Problem is they get a lot of these guys when they are just children. Completely shaking off your beliefs that were drilled into as a child is an extremely though thing to do.
XenogearsX
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So one of the 8 terrorists had a ps4 so it's assumed possible that's how they organized the attacks? Seems like a stretch. I could see if all 8 had a ps4
Demoskinos
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Considering that the PlayStation app allows for messages to be sent through the PSN network you honestly would just need 8 guys with PSN accounts and cell phones.
Pretty much. Highlighted in this video.
https://news.vice.com/video/the-islamic-state-full-length
Saw it pop up on someones twitter today and was fascinating.
OMG I just saw the most horrific picture from the Bataclan in the replies to the tweet. Don't scroll down if you don't want to see a picture of dead bodies.
boiled goose
good with gravy
That's why the way to beat this is education.
Give people a chance to succeed and be happy.
Q
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Sun Bather
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You should probably just link to that instead.
Why would they not just download something like tor though, that NSA themselves have proven to not be able to get intercept, instead of PSN, something that script kiddies have proven to be able to hack?
Why would they not just download something like tor though, that NSA themselves have proven to not be able to get intercept, instead of PSN, something that script kiddies have proven to be able to hack?
Silent Chief
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I think it's more interesting to trace how the weapons got into France than how easy it is to communicate on PS4.
I just saw the uncensored version. Made me feel sick.
jesus fucking christ
Eighty Deuce
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My blood boils over this
Enter the Dragon Punch
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http://en.abna24.com/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2015/11/15/719961/story.html
http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/l...nts-destruction-isis-headquarters-albu-hayat/
250 members of ISIS were killed in Iraq via a force belonging to al-Jazeerah and al-Badiyah Operations
http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/l...nts-destruction-isis-headquarters-albu-hayat/
250 members of ISIS were killed in Iraq via a force belonging to al-Jazeerah and al-Badiyah Operations
Silent Chief
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Stalin was never a real ally. Hitler wrote a book called "My Struggle" in which he announced that the future for Germany was to "go east", exterminate all the inferior Slavic population--maybe keep a few as slaves--and build an empire there.
Stalin knew all about that. Early communism was always racing with capitalism anyway, like the space race and the arm race that followed. He just didn't think Hitler would be coming until England was taken care of.
And yet, when Barbarossa started with a surprise attack, the Nazis plowed through 3 armies and found another 3 standing behind them. After defeating those they found 2 more armies behind them. And then things started to slow down and the Nazis ran out of time.
I know it isn't really relevant to anything, but this did make me chuckle
https://twitter.com/HouseMusicVine/status/665868316880330752
https://twitter.com/HouseMusicVine/status/665868316880330752
MisterFalcon
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Maybe Stalin could not have given Hitler all the oil, steel, rubber and chemicals needed to build his armies and then there would have no attack at all. My country would also not have been conquered in 1940.
Silent Chief
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People who think Napoleon was a white supremacist have a curious view of history.
The flag now stands for Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.
La Marseillaise is more problematic, but how fitting on days like these. It's a call to arms against an oppressor who threatens to kill women and children and whose impure blood must be spilled.
Horrific.
And some idiot posted uncensored image on FB and it jumped onto my news feed
Maybe the post-WWI terms should have been fairer towards the German people and we wouldn't have had another war in the first place. What's your point?
Belgian home affairs minister says Playstation 4 chat is even harder to control than WhatsApp
http://www.xpats.com/brussels-weakest-link-europes-fight-against-terrorism
*facepalm*
inb4 people discovering how many chat services actually are out there...
http://www.xpats.com/brussels-weakest-link-europes-fight-against-terrorism
*facepalm*
inb4 people discovering how many chat services actually are out there...
You do realize that even adolescents with higher forms of education went to ISIS to defend their religion right? The whole fairy tale of ' let's just educate them and all this will go away' has been shot down a long time ago.
Silent Chief
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Stalin needed money. Germany got steel from Sweden and oil from Romania.
Russia was expelled from the League of Nations after invading Finland.
Also Russia performing so poorly in the Winter War against Finland was probably another reason for operation Barbarossa. The Russians had 30 times more planes than the Finns and 100 times more tanks.
Have you guys read this by survivor Isobel Bowdery
https://www.facebook.com/isobel.bowdery/posts/10153885280769893
https://www.facebook.com/isobel.bowdery/posts/10153885280769893
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
That's just incredible. I wish I hadn't seen that out of respect for the victims, but I personally don't want to shy away from the reality.
These fuckers need to be stopped. By any means.
Terrible news all around. My condolences to all victims.
If anything, everyone should avoid places like these in the future. Nobody knows if it will happen again. The most horrifying thing is they probably have terror cells and sleepers everywhere.
Generalizing your country won't do any good.
Germany seems to have been pretty lax as well.
The open letter from the Federal Agency for Migration and Refugees in question.
Behörden fehlt der Überblick: Flüchtlingszüge leeren sich auf ihrer Fahrt durch Deutschland.
A little bonus:
Major Moser: "Es endet im Bürgerkrieg" Important part starts at 0:17 where he talks about checking IDs.
tl;dr: Checks are inadequate and they are risking an possible influx of terrorists.
EDIT: Not only inadequate but potentially unlawfully bad.
If anything, everyone should avoid places like these in the future. Nobody knows if it will happen again. The most horrifying thing is they probably have terror cells and sleepers everywhere.
Generalizing your country won't do any good.
Germany seems to have been pretty lax as well.
The open letter from the Federal Agency for Migration and Refugees in question.
Behörden fehlt der Überblick: Flüchtlingszüge leeren sich auf ihrer Fahrt durch Deutschland.
Federal Agency for Migration and Refugees Open Letter. Page 3 said:
A little bonus:
Major Moser: "Es endet im Bürgerkrieg" Important part starts at 0:17 where he talks about checking IDs.
tl;dr: Checks are inadequate and they are risking an possible influx of terrorists.
EDIT: Not only inadequate but potentially unlawfully bad.
Xan Kriegor
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Very good read, thank you.
FortuneFaded
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soxinthebox
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Places like where? The city? Concerts? Restaurants? Sports events? I don't see what that achieves.
Such a mess
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Holy fuck. That's so inappropriate, even for the DM. I expected for it to be hidden behind a link so you at least had a choice, but no.
The more I think about it, the more terrible I feel for having seen that while the families are still raw from the loss.
BaronLundi
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So there was a demonstration in Lille yesterday against terrorism and in support of the victims. A small group of extreme right wingers comes in with a banner that reads "Expel the islamists".
Whaf follows:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3...-au-rassemblement-place-de-la-republique_news
Now this is the France I love.
Whaf follows:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3...-au-rassemblement-place-de-la-republique_news
'Facists out!' is what the crowd is chanting
Now this is the France I love.
Capitals. Places with big amount of planned gatherings. What we see from this is that they yearn for public eyes.
They failed to infiltrate the Stadium and opted for the next best thing, not only that the explosions where heard on TV.
How do I get Dailymotion to work properly?
It's always stuttering for me feeling like a low-grade 90s youtube clone.
Are you using chrome?
yes.
Me too, I think I have the same issue. It isn't that bad, but the videos do lag a bit on that website.
Almost all victims were in random bars and restaurants and a concert venue that holds 1500 people, I would hardly call them huge. What do you do ? Stop going outside at all ?
These places aren't any more dangerous now than they were a week ago, things like this happen and they will probably happen forever, no matter how sad it is to admit. You can't just stop living your life because "who knows what might happen".
Dreamwriter
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So you're suggesting that we give in to the terrorists, show them that they've won, we are now too terrorized to go to large public events in major cities?
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