DiipuSurotu
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? They probably killed or threatened the security. Security staff at concerts just check the tickets and deal with drunkards, I don't think they are trained to deal with fucking terrorists.
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Paris Terrorist Attacks, 120+ dead. Do not post hearsay/unsourced/old news.
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? They probably killed or threatened the security. Security staff at concerts just check the tickets and deal with drunkards, I don't think they are trained to deal with fucking terrorists.
Um, they just blew up a Russian Airline?
that other youtube link brought me to his goodbye message.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAttFerhtnw
I lost it half way through the video (00:37-00:50), especially with what has happened today. Feeling helpless.
for all those who can only post.....from around the world, when we feel helpless to what is happening. Spread love to those around you and to the people you'll continue to meet.
i'll just refrain to my earlier post about coming off of Hebdo and the promises of upped security at places like this, then
ShalashaskaEx
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This is just the beginning, unfortunately. This scene will be repeated around Europe. It's only going to get worse. So sad. RIP to the victims.
Yeah, for real. People here have insisted that this kind of thing can't happen with European style gun control, so how could this happen?
Yeah, for real. People here have insisted that this kind of thing can't happen with European style gun control, so how could this happen?
Bam Bam Baklava
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It's a different name for the same brand of extremism. Many times involving the same former members of past groups. Look up what Baghdadi was doing in the years leading up to 2012.
Fudgepuppy
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Apparently okay:
When I read the they were playing, I started crying, thinking that Josh Homme was killed. He wasn't there on this tour though.
This is just so surreal.
Xplatformer
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I'm crying and I don't know why. Prayers go out to everyone. We're all affected by this.
CadetMahoney
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Destabilized the region in the first place, the answer is to destabilize it more?
And lets not pretend American foreign policy was about "caring about people" in the first place. Didn't even Trump say ME wouldn't be the mess it is now if we didn't keep taking country by country (Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan) bringing that democracy and freedom. Lets do more of that. Lets kill Assad and take of his country then target Iran /s
KurtSloane
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Of course it did, doesn't mean its true.
Netherscourge
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The Boston Bombers made bombs out of modified retail-store pressure cookers and metal scraps/nails/screws.
You can Google together a bomb these days, that's how freaking easy it is. You don't need chemists or scientists to make these things anymore. You can buy them at Target and Walmart.
Abinash117
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Lol stop putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about Islamic fundamentalism . I was talking about ISIL and ISIL only . It is not matter of wanting to they already been intervening against ISIL and is currently doing that.
But hey if I am selfish for getting rid of a terror militia like ISIL than I'm okay with that.
Someone at the venue said there was no security. He came in after giving a ticket with no pat down or anything.
Daesh is the literal translation of the acronym ISIS....
In the end guns and explosives are cheap/easy to make and/or smuggle. Regardless of gun control.
Maninthemirror
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As I said Isis will have no influential power of the concept of Caliphte or state is removed
quackamole
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You won't find the political capital in the US to fund another war like that, not unless we get another major attack and I mean major attack, think Avengers with the aliens invading new york major. And the EU don't have the military to do it on their own to be honest, not to mention the Russians already beat them to it.
Maninthemirror
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That's true though we will find out in day or so through intelligence
The end of World War One ruined the Middle East in so many ways it's astounding. Britain really just went in there and it feels they just didn't care.
Back to the main topic, this is just awful and horrible. I hope they manage to capture all those who helped commit this disgusting attack. All these poor innocent people didn't deserve this.
But phonetically it sounds exactly like a pejorative term that they claim themselves as "cutting the tongues" of anyone who says it.
Ziltoidia 9
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Fox is really bothering me right now, cant watch Obama bashing right now.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Really dude? So all those stories about how they've basically brought jihad into the 21st century by using social media is just fantasy talk? Every expert on TV has been talking about how they can reach any corner of the world and radicalize people through the internet. The Boston bombers are a classic example of how this would work. They didn't need oil funding or a caliphate state to carry out an attack.
Tarkus
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Maybe had the parts of the weapons shipped in small batches and put them together.
Yeah, it's fucking horrible. My boyfriend was in that venue just one week ago.
My heart goes out to everyone involved. Just... fuck.
Fox was doing well reporting the events earlier when it was just Shepard Smith.
Pancake Mix
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I'm seeing some posters asking how they got in the venue first but my understanding is that they shot at cafes around the concert hall first and then stormed it. That is what The Guardian reported.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/13/shootings-reported-in-eastern-paris-live
You're not serious, are you? The gun death rate in France is exponentially lower than the US which is what gun control prevents. This is apparently a terrorist cell and we don't know how they got the firearms but you can be assured it was harder than a lone wolf shooting in the US.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/nov/13/shootings-reported-in-eastern-paris-live
You're not serious, are you? The gun death rate in France is exponentially lower than the US which is what gun control prevents. This is apparently a terrorist cell and we don't know how they got the firearms but you can be assured it was harder than a lone wolf shooting in the US.
If only social media would have existed in 1939.
"We can't go against the nazi, they just appeared in Germany because it was a very unstable country and a lot of people became poor. And if we take out the nazi, there will be some other German extremists that will just rise instead of them. Better prepare a long term plan on how to make Germany stable and rich under Hitler so the people will be convinced that the he is not the solution. Sure, there will be some deaths and some more territories conquered, but war is never a solution".
"We can't go against the nazi, they just appeared in Germany because it was a very unstable country and a lot of people became poor. And if we take out the nazi, there will be some other German extremists that will just rise instead of them. Better prepare a long term plan on how to make Germany stable and rich under Hitler so the people will be convinced that the he is not the solution. Sure, there will be some deaths and some more territories conquered, but war is never a solution".
The Ottoman Empire is partly to blame for that, along with the colonial powers after its fall.
The Empire held that region together for more than 600 years, only to stagnate, collapse and get carved up by European colonials.
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Such a surreal picture:
What could they possibly do when these people come in shooting and throwing explosives?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Those are old tweets from the Charlie attack. Gingrich and Carson have been the really terrible ones in responding.
Things went well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
SliChillax
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Also some of the videos Vice posted about black markets in Iraq I think it was, shows clearly that they produce the weapons by hand. Could explain the where the weapons came from theory.
Maninthemirror
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No state no state
No caliphate no call to join
Why did fighters go there, to run the caliphate, if there is none they lose all influence, if you take away the oil you remove their major source of funding. They will be even more weak than al Qaeda currently once you take oil, state and caliph away from them,
They talk about politicizing things but yet they do it.
Can the government take our weapons in a state of emergency?
I'm not shitting you, they literally asked that question.
Tarkus
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Seriously, I'd take him on the air all day. He's the best reporter on TV period.
Stahp
The USA has literally 50 times as many gun deaths as France adjusted for population per year.
So yeah actually gun control works there pretty fucking well comparatively.
ShalashaskaEx
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"Westerners" don't have the stomach to take care of ISIS. It's not like a traditional, enemy state. How do you combat an ideology?
Bam Bam Baklava
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What a laughable shitty comparison. Germany and Japan signed unconditional surrenders and the war was over. Is there some grand islamic jihad leader that will do that for the thousand extremist groups out there?
Not to mention there wasn't a war on Nazism for 15 years leading up to 1939 either.
Yep Fox is generally an excellent news source when its news time and Shep is on the air. Once the "pundits" come on its crap time
ISIS in Syria and Iraq is a state
ShinHayase
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What, you accused the guy suggesting stable regime change to eliminate ISIS as being naive. What do you think he meant by that? Hopefully you're not dense enough to assume that he was suggesting getting rid of ISIS in a vacuum, right? Islamic fundamentalism and ISIS are one and the same in this context. I hope I don't need to tell you this. What good will getting rid of ISIS and only ISIS do, if westerners keep dying at the hands of fundamentalists who will replace them? You're being obtuse.
Maninthemirror
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https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/665314820812599296
This is where the unofficial confirmations are coming in
Apparently okay:
Members of the Deftones also made it out of the venue 15 minutes before the attacks started. They were scheduled to play there over the weekend.
http://www.fuse.tv/2015/11/deftones-paris-terrorist-attack-15-minutes
Team Alucard
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more than this?:
and more than drunkyard checking bouncers? specially if you promise it after a tragedy
not saying have a swat team in there, but be on the ready. ive talked to french friends who were actually expecting something like this sooner than later
you are supposed to tighten security in public places, venues, gatherings, and such after something like Hebdo, specially if you promise it. Seems like they didnt. this wasnt some random underground nightclub either
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