Patrick Klepek is joining Kotaku

Dresden

Member
Good move, hope it works out. Going to a site that actually produces written content must be a good change for him.
 

Natiko

Banned
Well, theoretically this is a much better fit for what his expertise is. Unfortunately, Kotaku is sort of a shitty website. I never make a point to go there, it primarily just regurgitates info from other sources. Good luck to you though Scoops.
 
Good that he found another job in gaming news but Kotaku still has a terrible format, garbage commenting system and a handful of god awful writers that will still keep me from visiting. They're going to have to lose people, not gain them to get me to go back and I'm sure a lot of others feel that way too.

Professionalism.

From the website that employs Brian Ashcraft and Patricia Hernandez? jenniferlawrenceok.gif
 

Dragon

Banned
Don't think anyone's disputing that. Kotaku's official numbers are public, so that's probably a better way to view their numbers since Alexa is pretty terrible at predicting trends.

I posted the numbers without comment. GB's numbers aren't public so not sure what the point of that would be.

Kotaku also has a 5 year head start on giantbomb which is HUGE.

For sure. My point was more that Kotaku is a different site and I think everyone agrees, more up Patrick's alley.
 
It means article quotas and a heavy focus on clickbait

Yes I hear that accusation a lot.

But it's usually not followed up with a lot of evidence. Kotaku has had a fantastic track record covering the industry in the last year. The addition of Patrick Klepek means they're going to continue doing so. Fear that anything Jason or Patrick contribute from here on out is going to be molded to some master 'clickbait' template is stupid and immature.
 
I'll continue to follow him if he keeps doing Spookin with Scoops, but beyond that, I'll take a wait and see approach on visiting Kotaku again. Haven't been a fan of that site in years.
 

Horseticuffs

Full werewolf off the buckle
I hope he got his thirty pieces of silver on the way out the door!

I'll miss you, Patrick. Gosh, I hate change :- "Things fall apart. The center can not hold"
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
So does GAF like kotaku now? Because I remember a time when it was almost universally hated as BS click bait for stealing content from these forums.

Anyway, I hope that the guy finds what he's looking for. Games journalism seems like a challenging career field to be successful in.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Professionalism.

I know it's impossible to believe but I'm fairly sure kotaku plays even less fuckin games than GB. They are a clickbait site through and through. Not a single gamer among them.
 

Flavius

Member
That's probably it. Giant Bomb has always been more about Giant Bomb itself (crew, podcasts, videos) than actual game journalism (whatever that term means these days). Not that there is anything wrong with that, the GB crew is a lovely bunch, but it's not hard to imagine Patrick wanting to focus on writing again.

That doesn't make sense. He was essentially the only one at GB cranking out written content regularly, with the exception of reviews. Kotaku might have more traffic, but after having another look at Kotaku just now (I tried...I really tried...but holy fuck, what an inexcusable mess in terms of design, sweet baby jeebus), I'm convinced his work will never be as prominently featured there as it was on the GB site. I clicked on 'News' and Patrick's stuff was there...easy, peasy, lemon squeezy.

Little in this industry makes me feel as old and out-of-touch as taking a gander at Kotaku. I don't get the appeal of any of it. I'm sure there's some quality stuff there, but I'm not willing to sift through the...stuff...to get to the gold.

I'll shut up now, and reiterate...congrats and best of luck, Patrick!
 
Good move, hope it works out. Going to a site that actually produces written content must be a good change for him.

Thats probably the best thing to come from it.

Plus since Kotaku has writers that do a lot of the busy work that kept him busy at Giant bomb of posting press releases and trailers already so I guess now Patrick will have the time and motivation to do other more substantial pieces with his time.
 
Great get for Kotaku. GB's loss.

Eh, I think it's an upgrade for both sides. GB gets to consolidate to 2 branches instead of 3, which means GB NY can put out more/better content, and Patrick gets more exposure for his articles on a site that's focused on it.
 

shwimpy

Member
Although I never cared about Kotaku and still don't, best of luck to Patrick. I enjoyed his video work on Giantbomb and hope he continues to succeed.
 

entremet

Member
That doesn't make sense. He was essentially the only one at GB cranking out written content regularly, with the exception of reviews. Kotaku might have more traffic, but after having another look at Kotaku just now (I tried...I really tried...but holy fuck, what an inexcusable mess in terms of design, sweet baby jeebus), I'm convinced his work will never be as prominently featured there as it was on the GB site. I clicked on 'News' and Patrick's stuff was there...easy, peasy, lemon squeezy.

Little in this industry makes me feel as old and out-of-touch as taking a gander at Kotaku. I don't get the appeal of any of it. I'm sure there's some quality stuff there, but I'm not willing to sift through the...stuff...to get to the gold.

I'll shut up now, and reiterate...congrats and best of luck, Patrick!

Giant Bomb probably has a lot of data on the click through rates on their written content versus video.

I'm sure the latter beats the former.
 

Dragon

Banned
Yes I hear that accusation a lot.

But it's usually not followed up with a lot of evidence. Kotaku has had a fantastic track record covering the industry in the last year. The addition of Patrick Klepek means they're going to continue doing so. Fear that anything Jason or Patrick contribute from here on out is going to be molded to some master 'clickbait' template is stupid and immature.

A lot of evidence? Kotaku is part of the Gawker network.

Look at this article from 2012: http://gawker.com/5878065/gawker-wi...joy-your-free-cute-cats-singing-and-sideboobs

They did experiments to see how viable it would be. The person in charge has since been pushed out, but they aren't baseless accusations. That's part of their legacy, Jason has done some great articles on Kotaku and his love for Suikoden II makes my heart full, but one shouldn't ignore things just because it doesn't fit their agenda.
 

Bricky

Member
I have nothing against Kotaku, but there's still too much "look what I found on the net" articles for me. I'd say that there's about 9 of those (or stuff from other Gawker sites) to 1 actual reported Kotaku article on the site. But I'll click on a good article by Jason when it's posted here or on Twitter, same with Patrick.

I don't disagree, but it is but an annoyance these days rather than something that would keep most from reading their site entirely. The Gawker network reposts remain crap and something they should simply stop doing, but the 'look what I found on the net' stuff is acceptable and well-balanced with original articles.
 

Frenden

Banned
That doesn't make sense. He was essentially the only one at GB cranking out written content regularly, with the exception of reviews. Kotaku might have more traffic, but after having another look at Kotaku just now (I tried...I really tried...but holy fuck, what an inexcusable mess in terms of design, sweet baby jeebus), I'm convinced his work will never be as prominently featured there as it was on the GB site. I clicked on 'News' and Patrick's stuff was there...easy, peasy, lemon squeezy.

Little in this industry makes me feel as old and out-of-touch as taking a gander at Kotaku. I don't get the appeal of any of it. I'm sure there's some quality stuff there, but I'm not willing to sift through the...stuff...to get to the gold.

I'll shut up now, and reiterate...congrats and best of luck, Patrick!

Yeah. I just can't handle the Gawker design template that all their sites adhere too. It's too hard to find content and hard to read once you do.
 
Great move for Patrick since writing's his passion and Kotaku's focus is on the written word. Hope he brings the Interview Dumptruck over in some form.

Still, it's Kotaku, where it needs a great share of short and simple clickbait crap to make up for better investigated pieces that take time to develop. I don't expect that to change anytime soon.
 
A lot of evidence? Kotaku is part of the Gawker network.

Look at this article from 2012: http://gawker.com/5878065/gawker-wi...joy-your-free-cute-cats-singing-and-sideboobs

They did experiments to see how viable it would be. The person in charge has since been pushed out, but they aren't baseless accusations. That's part of their legacy, Jason has done some great articles on Kotaku and his love for Suikoden II makes my heart full, but one shouldn't ignore things just because it doesn't fit their agenda.

What major or slightly major "news" site hasn't been accused of click-bait articles, it is like you are so desperate at proving something that you end up proving nothing.

Secondly, your example is not even a good example of clickbait it is almost like you don't even know what a clickbait article is.
 

GenericUser

Member
So he left a well known and respected gaming website to join a group of shits that happen to know how to use a cms?

look away sponk, look away, thats not how you do carreer, look away!
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
An office? Co-workers to interact with? Wasn't one of klepeks problems the lack of structure and interaction which was generating ennui.

He's the one that moved..
 

jschreier

Member
I'm not going to get into any big arguments about what "clickbait" actually means or how much influence traffic should have over the way websites operate, but anyone who is interested in Gawker Media's plans for 2015 should check out last month's memo from Nick Denton.

Editorial management’s mission for next year is simple. Here’s your budget. Break some stories. Expose the story behind that story. Say what others cannot or will not. Make us proud. This is the one of the greatest editorial openings of all time. Don’t fuck it up!
 

Dragon

Banned
What major or slightly major "news" site hasn't been accused of click-bait articles, it is like you are so desperate at proving something that you end up proving nothing.

Secondly, your example is not even a good example of clickbait it is almost like you don't even know what a clickbait article is.

Your first sentence/question has absolutely nothing to do with my point and is completely irrelevant.

Um, the article in question isn't a clickbait article as much as it's a letter from the person in charge saying they're going to try to do "seo whoring" which is just another name for it really. Which to me, is way more relevant when someone asks for evidence then getting into a "oh that's not really clickbait because ..." type subjectivity argument.

An office? Co-workers to interact with? Wasn't one of klepeks problems the lack of structure and interaction which was generating ennui.

I didn't know that Kotaku had a Chicago office.
 
A lot of evidence? Kotaku is part of the Gawker network.

Look at this article from 2012: http://gawker.com/5878065/gawker-wi...joy-your-free-cute-cats-singing-and-sideboobs

They did experiments to see how viable it would be. The person in charge has since been pushed out, but they aren't baseless accusations. That's part of their legacy, Jason has done some great articles on Kotaku and his love for Suikoden II makes my heart full, but one shouldn't ignore things just because it doesn't fit their agenda.

First off, 2012.
Second off, not Jason, not Patrick, not even a Kotaku writer.

I get that Gawker as an enterprise has ruffled feathers. I'm not ignoring that gawker.com is often involved in a lot of trashy writing. I assumed this wasn't really hidden as it's a celebrity gossip site and that's pretty much standard operating procedure in that segment of the media.

What's irritating is how broadly people paint anything in the network. Kotaku is doing some of the best work they've ever done and people are either clapping their hands over their ears to that fact or have a years-long grudge to vent out on the internet with this 'but, but Gawker' and 'downgrade' chatter. Yeah I guess it would be nice not to have to wade through io9 posts I don't care about when I scroll through it but it's not like it causes me trauma to do so.
 

LaserHawk

Member
So does GAF like kotaku now? Because I remember a time when it was almost universally hated as BS click bait for stealing content from these forums.

I don't think I can really fault a place for finding its news here. I mean, it's where I get most of my news. It's a good resource in that regard.

But my problem is that for all the times I'm thinking, "Holy crap, this is a stupid article," 70% of the time it's on Kotaku, and 30% of the time it's on Polygon.
 

Sulik2

Member
I hope he does well on Kotaku, but I am still sad Patrick is gone from Giant Bomb. Scoops and the Wolf was so good and he brought such a nice perspective to GB. I really wish there had been a way for him to stay on at GB.
 

ultron87

Member
I know it's impossible to believe but I'm fairly sure kotaku plays even less fuckin games than GB. They are a clickbait site through and through. Not a single gamer among them.

That's not the case at all. Their reviews are really in depth, often come out late, and don't even have a score (just a "should you play it?"). That is the opposite of clickbait. For example, their Destiny review is the one review of that game that I felt captured both the joys and massive frustrations of it. Their Top 12 games of last year that they just posted is super diverse and has games spanning the gaming spectrum.

They definitely have some chaff stories that fill in the gaps but to suggest that they don't play games is crazy.
 

Pachinko

Member
At first I read kotaku and my brain said Polygon and I was like oh noooo.

I think Kotaku scored a major win here , I mean I'll have to retire my "kotaku is japanese for bad journalism" image now because Patrick working there completely destroys that.

So good luck sir! Hopefully this was the right decision for your future endeavors. I'm guessing it will be because you'll be able to produce far more written content which I'm guessing is what you want to do.
 
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