Paypal terminating All Steam payments In currencies other than EUR, CAD, GBP, JPY, AUD, USD

Comandr said:
You just can't help but be right all the time can you?
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Microsoft throwing their weight around to take Steam down to force people to use their dogshit PC store. That is my conspiracy theory and you cannot tell me otherwise.
 
Wow, after Valve being pushed to censor games, and even doing it...they still end up with a payment processor fucking them.

iclash said:
Is Valve getting pressured to go public, and all this payment drama behind the scenes is what's visible to us?
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If Valve goes public, the enshittifcation is a certainty.
 
In the large scheme of things it seems they are sticking to supporting Tier 1 countries in terms of PayPal processing for Valve. Is this more of assuming the debt of those areas they are restricting is too much of a risk for PayPal?

Do the countries that were removed have more liberal return policies on purchases?

Is this actually related to social/political maneuvering rather than a strictly financial decision?
 
The Mad Draklor said:
And/Or start accepting crypto payments.
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This is the simple solution and this sort of circumvention of restriction is exactly why it exists. Let's go, Valve. They used to accept it but it was years ago and they ceased in 2017 - should be a much better environment in modern times. Not sure why they originally cited "fees" as an issue - the customer pays all transaction fees, not Valve. Regardless, there are many such crypto that have transaction fees which are effectively nothing they could also accept.
 
Jinzo Prime said:
Good. Send it to Paypal and Valve both. Are their any other payment processers you guys can use?
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I mean i can use my debit card, it's what i use through paypal anyway. Just more convenient to use through paypal because if i use the card directly i gotta go and approve the transaction manually on my phone. But i wish steam would just add twint.
 
Radical_3d said:
Ha!! How's that "not joining the Euro" thing paying off, Swedish friends?
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Countries are free to make their own decisions, and retaining sovereignty and neutrality was Switzerland's. Should a modern, friendly country like them be treated like this by a American multinational? No, not really. And neither should Mexico.
 
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Jinzo Prime said:
Last year US Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) sent Valve a threating letter pushing them to censor their forums.

www.gamedeveloper.com

Senator questions Valve's commitment to wiping out 'disturbing and violent' extremism on Steam

'It appears that Valve has chosen to continue a 'hands off'-type approach to content moderation.'
www.gamedeveloper.com www.gamedeveloper.com

I wonder if this is the fallout.
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This must be it.

There HAS to be political pressure behind all of this.

& given the reach of the current administration and their leanings towards conservative religious groups I can see how perhaps the spirit of ol' Jack Thompson maybe channeling its way back to interfere with trying to "fix" the games market for the fundies (ironically in a world where social media is doing far more damage to the minds of young and old than gaming ever had any means to).

Companies like this simply just don't give a shit about any kind of moral pursuit. The idea that the payment companies are all simply chasing some puritanical, dogmatic "woke" agenda in an industry completely divorced from their own bread and butter (whilst their own bottom line is absolutely filth-swollen with the revenues of gambling transactions, porn subscriptions and all sorts of smut-centric commerce they're all more than happy to enable) is just entirely incongruent with their very nature.

If they're not operating towards outcomes that protect their business (e.g. from powerful political pressure) or the interests of their shareholders then it's basically fantasy, because there is simply nothing else for companies of this scale and heritage.
 
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Jinzo Prime said:
Countries are free to make their own decisions, and retaining sovereignty and neutrality was Switzerland's. Should a modern, friendly country like them be treated like this by an American multinational? No, not really. And neither should Mexico.
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It sounds that a bank that processes PayPal transactions decided to accept only the listed currencies in the OP for Valve. So most likely this isn't on either Valve nor PayPal.

Why, nobody knows, but it is most likely to be some regulations that recently popped up. I doubt this is related to going public, random stupidity from a US Senator or publisher pressure to shut down VPN purchases.

Because neither of the above would affect say Switzerland.
 
"Free Market capitalism is the best! Let the market decide!"
*Every giant corporation tries to force and coerce the market into accepting shady as fuck practices, terrible prices, and garbage service to keep their stock prices high*
*Valve wins over the entire free market by literally doing the bare minimum and stays private*
"No, not like that! You have to treat your customers like shit! You can't be allowed to not enshitify your service!"
*Payment processor begin debanking Valve*

At some point, I fully expect Valve to just make their own payment system. They literally made their OS to prevent exactly this type of shenanigans from Microsoft and Windows.
 
Do fascists really not understand that age of consent laws don't apply to mythic creatures, tulpas or kin-fairies? Not to mention many of the ones who appear youngest are actually many millennia old. It's like they don't even check the lore. So anyone with the most basic education in science, ethics and law know that none of those games carry any moral hazard or legal ambiguity. Gabe just can't shake his whiteness. I am so tired.
 
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This sucks, I can't use paypal in my country anymore and they haven't accepted American Express for quite a while (which is the CC that I usually use).

It will be very inconvenient but I'll support Valve by using other methods. Fuck these motherfuckers.
 
PayPal is an awful and useless organization.

Someone sold me a stolen phone, and opening a case with paypal actively hampered my case by stalling the one I had with my cc company. They lost messages between me and the seller, were impossible to communicate with over weeks. Literally would have been better off skipping them entirely and going directly to my CC company for the fraud case. The paypal case complicated and stalled the case with my cc company. What's even the point of paypal?
 
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The moment Valve goes public we all know it'll 100% turn to shit. It will be just as bad as all the other big gaming companies in no time, maybe worse. There will be no key sellers, only 120 USD preorder bonuses and 80 USD default pricing with rare and shitty sales. The quality of all services tied to Steam will degrade and they'll take away things we take for granted now, like refunds or family sharing.

Edit: What alternative to PayPal do you recommend on Steam?
 
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I really don't think Valve will go Public, one of their most important markets, China, use different payment methods than PayPal.

As long as those methods work, they'll be fine.
 
That's too many currencies that you can still pay in. Gotta pump those numbers up. I'm thinking leave the Yen and make everything else unavailable. Y'know, as a prank.
 
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asdasdasdbb said:
I'm surprised publishers haven't demanded Steam crack down on the Shady Key Sites.
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Publishers can stop 'Shady Key Sites' with one simple trick - they simply stop generating keys and only sell their games directly on digital stores. Valve doesn't take a cut from generated keys, the publishers take responsibility for them.
 
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This is dedicated to the morons who deluded themselves into thinking the power trip would stop at "gooner games".

Brakum said:
Valve doesnt generate keys without consent.
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Yep,
if anything it's to the publishers/developers interest and benefit to be able to sell Steam keys outside of the Steam store... Which Valve allows them to do, so far.
 
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kazuyamishima said:
I'll suggest anyone to never, ever, ever ever to do this.

They have one of the worst currency exchange rates.
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My issuer is almost always the national bank.
They literally have the best currency exchange rate and will net you a much much better rate than PayPal.

In fact in all the countries I've lived PayPal has never had the better exchange rate its actually usually if not always the worst because most banks/issuers will do the conversion basically for free or whatever the standard card cost would be whereas PayPal charge you a percentage of the transaction on top of having bad rates anyway............why would you advise against letting the issuer do the conversion instead of PayPal???
 
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