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PC Racing Sims Thread
- Thread starter Big Takeover
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Getting mine Thursday according to Amazon - finally!
TJP
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SimBin did a great job with Race '07 and the DLC. Shame GTR 3 fell apart as it would have been R3E in one complete package.
It is a big 'if' although Kunos can concentrate on AI and netcode now that the physics and tyre model are largely finalised.
SCE is the ultimate statement of what isiMotor2 can do (weather would be nice ala Race '07). Racceroom is slowly coming together, the devs admitted it was released way too early and qith just 11 people, progress is limited.
That all said, what a time to be a sim racer!
Well, guess I'm sticking with my G27 now that adapter/hacky thing to get them to work on PS4 actually works with Driveclub. Woo!
Windom Earle
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Also hopping in on that. Should hopefully have the parts Tuesday/Wednesday.
I ordered the rest of the parts I needed (already had the processor, just needed the serial converter) last week and paid extra for local (interstate) and I'm still waiting :/
Edit: Just in now, but I'm not staying at home tonight so there's nothing I can do. Hopefully tomorrow I'll have everything going
Big Takeover
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TJP
Member
It's up to the dev team; I do know they use different wheels and pedals.
Looks like Simraceway is down and has been for a while.
Big Takeover
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TJP
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I'm using a G27 as it's the most widely supported wheel and without the Logitech profiler, R3E feels pretty damn good. AC and SCE are the best in regards to FFB (rF2 is very close) and I hope Sector 3 can match these sims soon. Problem is not enough developers to do everything.
I read on RD it's been down for a while and the Twitter page gives no info, they just reposts links.
Betta Lines
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From my discussions with them, they're not shutting down any time soon. The current downtime is due to an 'SSL renewal' error.
TJP
Member
That's good news as I have $20 of content! Simraceway is largely a forgotten sim; don't know what the community feeling is on the sim but I think it's fun.
In other 'news', I see a few people complaining about the free Indy Lights car in the URD PX on the ISI forums. If I'm reading his posts correctly, one guys is blaming Kunos for it not being a mod for rF2. Unbelievable.
marvelharvey
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Isn't rf2 getting its own 'present' from URD soon? Seems a weird thing to complain about, but this is the internet.
And this is sim racing.
TJP
Member
From what I've read on the URD FB page, it appears that Assetto Corsa will be their lead platform for a while to come. I think the lack of a 4WD model and hybrid technology isn't helping move the PX mod forward in rF2. Hopefully the Indy Light cars make it into rF2 as at least it has oval tracks of high quality.
Indeed. How's the bike DLC for DriveClub? Might be time for a PS4 methinks as DC is now PGR4 in all but name (and a few city tracks).
People seem to be disappointed that there is no ragdoll physics so you can't see your rider get basically killed in multiple ways. IDK why people want it because i feel it would take off focus from getting a perfect run on the tracks.
Also the bikes can't wipe out from too much throttle, it'll just slide instead. Of course not sliding is the fastest way of getting around the circuits. Then again, i myself am a bit biased but i don't think that if it was more punishing in terms of wiping out more, i wouldn't be this interested because i am not a bike guy myself.
TJP
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Ragdoll physics belong in a Flatout game. It's not like one can completely destroy their car, so I don't see why you'd want to have a rider resemble a dead fish.
If Evo copied SBK 2001 in which the rider (if not hurt) chases after his bike and picks it up, the race would be over after one stack which is hardly exciting gameplay.
Reads like an arcade bike game which is in line with DC's ethos. No point making the add-on akin to GP Bikes as 100 people would buy the DLC
Ragdoll physics belong in a Flatout game. It's not like one can completely destroy their car, so I don't see why you'd want to have a rider resemble a dead fish.
If Evo copied SBK 2001 in which the rider (if not hurt) chases after his bike and picks it up, the race would be over after one stack which is hardly exciting gameplay.
Reads like an arcade bike game which is in line with DC's ethos. No point making the add-on akin to GP Bikes as 100 people would buy the DLC
Yeah i agree with you but people seem to be really burned by it.. I on the other hand love it and i was expecting to really find it to be not my thing at all.
Oh, and Rushy confirmed that the reason there is no bike crashes in-game is Licensing reasons.
TJP
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Release notes:
V1.50
Cars:
Track:
Features & Fixes:
V1.50
Cars:
- Adds Mitsubishi Lancer Cup Series (Lancer R & RS models, recommended to run with TC & ABS on low as per the real car)
Track:
- Adds Velo Cittá Circuit (2 layouts);
Features & Fixes:
- Added support to 6 USB controller devices (increasing the previous limit of 3
- Added sensitivity & dead zone sliders for up to 6 controller inputs in CONTROLLER 3 menu
- Added feature to automatically adjust Steering Rotation for each vehicle so user no longer needs to exit game and manually adjust controller rotation (see recommendations above)
- Added option to adjust steering rotation in garage menu & adjusted default steering lock settings to provide a suitable default steering ratio for all cars (Custom Steer Rotation must be set to NO in controller menu);Added option to map commands for adjusting anti-roll bars from in-car (for the cars that have the option: Stock Car V8, Super V8, F-Extreme, F-Reiza, F-3, F-V12, F-Classic )
- Added option to map commands for adjusting Vertical FOV from in-car
- Added support for 24h race length
- Added Stock V8 rule which restricts tire stops to one tire change at a time
- Tweaked AI to perform less strategical mistakes (such as pitting in the last lap)
- Rewritten all car classes from the previous standard ReizaXX to a nomenclature that better represents their respective series
- Introduced native support to 9-speed gearboxes & fixed bug which would lead to F-Extreme occasionally disappearing when hitting 8th gear in a multiplayer section
- AI drivers now use 8th gear & DRS
- Added Opponents Filter option to quick race menu (for multiclass racing)
- Replaced AI aggression UI slider with a set of presets low-to-max (max being 50% aggression in old currency to prevent AI misbehavior in overly aggressive settings)
- Fixed bug with other cars occasionally inheriting 8 gears, DRS functionality from F-Extreme
- Fixed championship scoring bug
- Fixed grid position setting when qualifying is disabled
- Fixed performance issues with the SuperV8
- Revised pit menu rules & pitstop timing for all series
- Fixed bug with AI behavior being over aggressive with the throttle on corner exit leading to occasionally losing control
- Revised AI performance for all cars (balancing for consistency from car to car, track to track, session to session)
- Updated ambient, curb, road & grass roll noise for all cars
- Revised aero & tire physics in all cars
- Revised real-feel values to reduce FFB clipping
- Tweaked alpha channels in skins from Metalmoro MR18, Opala86, SuperV8, StockV8 series to reduce excessive shiny look
- Minor graphical optimization
- Fixed bug with Safety Car entering the pits in Curitiba Oval
- Fixed behavior of driver labels.
marvelharvey
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RRRE questions:
1) Since the update, whenever I start RRR3, I'm prompted to enter my username and password. This is very irritating. Is this happening to anyone else?
2) Is there any way to play with the 'car setup' before a restarted race? I only see the option before the 1st race start. Subsequent starts seem to have the 'car setup' menu removed.
3) Is there a way to move the gear indicator to the centre of the screen? Having a 21:9 monitor means it's just outside my peripheral vision.
4) Can the opponent's End-Of-Lap interval time information be removed from the HUD? It tends to obscure lefthand apexes.
5) Sometimes I feel that I've overheated my rears, but I'm unsure whether Sector3 model tyre temps or not. Is there a way to display this info?
1) Since the update, whenever I start RRR3, I'm prompted to enter my username and password. This is very irritating. Is this happening to anyone else?
2) Is there any way to play with the 'car setup' before a restarted race? I only see the option before the 1st race start. Subsequent starts seem to have the 'car setup' menu removed.
3) Is there a way to move the gear indicator to the centre of the screen? Having a 21:9 monitor means it's just outside my peripheral vision.
4) Can the opponent's End-Of-Lap interval time information be removed from the HUD? It tends to obscure lefthand apexes.
5) Sometimes I feel that I've overheated my rears, but I'm unsure whether Sector3 model tyre temps or not. Is there a way to display this info?
Big Takeover
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Very nice!
@marvel The only question I can definitively answer is #1. A: No. I'll check the rest later.
@marvel The only question I can definitively answer is #1. A: No. I'll check the rest later.
Only had time to do a quick race in pCARS.
It feels really great overall. It feels a lot smoother than the stock TX rim. Must be because of the big size and the lower weight.
The alcantara feels amazing obviously.
It looks so much better than the TX rim too. No grey/fake chrome plastic. It's all black.
The only con I've found so far are the buttons. They are too far from the rim (you have to let go of the rim to go press them) and there's less buttons than on the default TX rim. I obviously knew all about that before buying it and I'll get used to it but it's still a bit annoying.
Also the button layout doesn't make much sense compared to the stock rim. There's not really any logical mapping for the standard buttons used in games.... Obviously that's a very minor thing but anyway.
It feels really great overall. It feels a lot smoother than the stock TX rim. Must be because of the big size and the lower weight.
The alcantara feels amazing obviously.
It looks so much better than the TX rim too. No grey/fake chrome plastic. It's all black.
The only con I've found so far are the buttons. They are too far from the rim (you have to let go of the rim to go press them) and there's less buttons than on the default TX rim. I obviously knew all about that before buying it and I'll get used to it but it's still a bit annoying.
Also the button layout doesn't make much sense compared to the stock rim. There's not really any logical mapping for the standard buttons used in games.... Obviously that's a very minor thing but anyway.
marvelharvey
Member
Thanks BT. I've subsequently answered 5 too. Yes tyre temps are modeled, but there's currently no HUD element for them. You can see the data through 3rd party Android/iOS apps though.
TJP
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1) Since the update, whenever I start RRR3, I'm prompted to enter my username and password. This is very irritating. Is this happening to anyone else?
Unusual behaviour and in no way normal. I'd raise a helpdesk ticket if it continues.
2) Is there any way to play with the 'car setup' before a restarted race? I only see the option before the 1st race start. Subsequent starts seem to have the 'car setup' menu removed.
At this point in time, it's not possible after you start a race. I'll raise the issue on the testers forum.
3) Is there a way to move the gear indicator to the centre of the screen? Having a 21:9 monitor means it's just outside my peripheral vision.
Make sure the sim has selected a 21:9 screen in the settings. If you have, raise a helpdesk ticket and get Sector 3 to fix the issue and I'll raise the issue on the testers forums.
4) Can the opponent's End-Of-Lap interval time information be removed from the HUD? It tends to obscure lefthand apexes.
Yes. You can turn HUD elements on/off by selecting HUD Settings and turn off the In-game overlays.
5) Sometimes I feel that I've overheated my rears, but I'm unsure whether Sector3 model tyre temps or not. Is there a way to display this info?
Tyre temps are modelled; Sector 3 are to add this to the car status HUD along with other aspects we don't see at present.
So I caved and bought Dirt Rally on early access. It is hard! But overall very good.
I'm really struggling with some of the navigator calls, it seems that some of his 6 or 5 corners are really 4 or 3 corners and some of his 4 corners are really 6 corners. I also don't trust his 'don't cut' call because it looks like most of the corners that he says that it'll be safe to cut.
My biggest trouble is not having a proper handbrake. It makes it really hard. So I'm doing auto-clutch with my flappy paddles for shifting (T500) and then using the clutch peddle as my handbrake.
Not the best solution because then I can't left foot brake like I like to in racing games.
My technique is all over the place as well, but when I nail a corner or series of corners it's feels excellent
I'm really struggling with some of the navigator calls, it seems that some of his 6 or 5 corners are really 4 or 3 corners and some of his 4 corners are really 6 corners. I also don't trust his 'don't cut' call because it looks like most of the corners that he says that it'll be safe to cut.
My biggest trouble is not having a proper handbrake. It makes it really hard. So I'm doing auto-clutch with my flappy paddles for shifting (T500) and then using the clutch peddle as my handbrake.
Not the best solution because then I can't left foot brake like I like to in racing games.
My technique is all over the place as well, but when I nail a corner or series of corners it's feels excellent
marvelharvey
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marvelharvey
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I know RRRE is the number one for sound, but it's great just sitting in the pit garage listening. I can hear:
-Stationary cars revving
-At least 5 languages being spoken
-An air compressor
-Distant cars
-Car entering pits siren
-Cars driving nearby
-A leaf blower/vacuum clear
-Trackside announcements
-Someone being interviewed in German
-Whistles
-Crowd noises
-Wheel guns
-National anthem (I think)
All with seeming realistic reverb and muffling. So much atmosphere.
-Stationary cars revving
-At least 5 languages being spoken
-An air compressor
-Distant cars
-Car entering pits siren
-Cars driving nearby
-A leaf blower/vacuum clear
-Trackside announcements
-Someone being interviewed in German
-Whistles
-Crowd noises
-Wheel guns
-National anthem (I think)
All with seeming realistic reverb and muffling. So much atmosphere.
Betta Lines
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Famous last words
Big Takeover
Member
https://youtu.be/TWaiINy73Cc
That's amazing. I'll be sure to pay closer attention when I'm Rowlfing my keyboard looking for the ignition switch.
Famous last words
I've been caught out. I tend to over-correct and really avoid cutting, ruining the corner anyway
TJP
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Well spotted Sir. That was recorded at Spa from memory...
In a week where people bitched about free content in AC from URD not being in rF2, Kunos have decided to allow URD to port their content to rF2 irrespective of whether it's official DLC..so long as Kunos have a 60 day window of exclusivity.
Full story on PRC (yeah, I know): http://pretendracecars.net/2015/10/...fficial-assetto-corsa-content-into-rfactor-2/
I had no idea some of those cars were URD's.
I am excited about the GT86 coming to rF2. I did like it in AC but the ffb is a bit boring and coupling that with it's lack of power, I've hardly touched it since 1.3.
It could be awesome with rF2's ffb and more alive feeling in general.
I am excited about the GT86 coming to rF2. I did like it in AC but the ffb is a bit boring and coupling that with it's lack of power, I've hardly touched it since 1.3.
It could be awesome with rF2's ffb and more alive feeling in general.
marvelharvey
Member
Funnily enough, I was sitting in the Spa pitlane!
Yes. Although I sat in the pits for 10 minutes lol.
TJP
Member
Betta Lines
Member
I found myself disagreeing with many of the points made, but it was a good read - strong opinions but not provocative.
Which ones? I agree, a lot of the sims are half baked. I still can't play AC in SP unless I'm hotlapping, it's been a huge waste of money for me. If I was given the chance at a refund I'd take it. Same with Project CARS that is another humongous piece of shit.
TJP
Member
Sad as it is for me to read this blog (in every respect), the fact is is F2P model of R3E has never caught on in the 4 years I've been a tester. Here is PRC's take on R3E: http://pretendracecars.net/2015/11/02/its-time-for-sector-3-to-move-on-from-raceroom/
Speaking of Raceroom they just got the licence for: Buriram United International Circuit. With an on going relationship with the Tilke. Awesome!