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PC Racing Sims
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Betta Lines
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Why is there even a 'No' option? Shouldn't it work the same as Facebook 'likes'? Surely it's about the number of people interested, not the number who are not interested?
TJP
Member
Anyone else stupid like me and bought F1 2012 when it was released only to shelve it because of the endless issues? If so, a new version of the offline 'realism mod' has been released on Race Department (and possibly elsewhere) to fix many of the issues and enhance aspects of the game.
List of features from Race Department:
Realistic AI behaviour:
AI will overtake more
AI might crash at the start, even without player interfering
AI will not back out when they are on the inside at a corner
AI rarely (but they do) brake late and crash into other drivers
AI will not wait until all cars get passed when they are off the track, but will try to merge into the field
Realistic AI strength:
AI drivers pace is up to date according to the 2012 season
AI is more aggressive
Mechanical Failures and DNF's
AI will have more mechanical failures than CM last released patch
Mechanical failures happen according to 2012 season, That means HRT will have more mechanical failure than Ferrari
Each race will have between 1-5 cars that will retire due mechanical failures, the total can sum up to 7 if there occur some crashes.
The DNF's can depend on your racing skill, if you make a lot of mistake the AI gets caught in this and crash into each other. So be sure you're up to the difficulty settings where you belong!
Race Distance
There are 5 distances available: 25%, 50%, 75% 100% and Career mode.
If you want to play 25% races with tyre scaling, install the 50% mod and select 25% races ingame
If you want to play 75% races with tyre scaling, install the 75% mod and select 100% races ingame
You cannot play other distances than installed (except for 25%)
If you want to play Career mode just install that version, this version also works with Quick races it just doesn't support any tyre scaling
Tyres
This mod includes tyre scaling on 50% and 75% races and improved tyre scaling on 100%
This is the first mod with tyre scaling that affects the tyre wear!
Fixed tyre selection on Brazil and Texas
Tyre wear does not work in career. If you want to play this mod for career, install the Career version of the mod
Flashbacks
50 Flashbacks
Article and download link (need to be an RD member) here: http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/threads/f1-2012-realism-mod.60001/ The RD thread has links to other fixes too.
List of features from Race Department:
Realistic AI behaviour:
AI will overtake more
AI might crash at the start, even without player interfering
AI will not back out when they are on the inside at a corner
AI rarely (but they do) brake late and crash into other drivers
AI will not wait until all cars get passed when they are off the track, but will try to merge into the field
Realistic AI strength:
AI drivers pace is up to date according to the 2012 season
AI is more aggressive
Mechanical Failures and DNF's
AI will have more mechanical failures than CM last released patch
Mechanical failures happen according to 2012 season, That means HRT will have more mechanical failure than Ferrari
Each race will have between 1-5 cars that will retire due mechanical failures, the total can sum up to 7 if there occur some crashes.
The DNF's can depend on your racing skill, if you make a lot of mistake the AI gets caught in this and crash into each other. So be sure you're up to the difficulty settings where you belong!
Race Distance
There are 5 distances available: 25%, 50%, 75% 100% and Career mode.
If you want to play 25% races with tyre scaling, install the 50% mod and select 25% races ingame
If you want to play 75% races with tyre scaling, install the 75% mod and select 100% races ingame
You cannot play other distances than installed (except for 25%)
If you want to play Career mode just install that version, this version also works with Quick races it just doesn't support any tyre scaling
Tyres
This mod includes tyre scaling on 50% and 75% races and improved tyre scaling on 100%
This is the first mod with tyre scaling that affects the tyre wear!
Fixed tyre selection on Brazil and Texas
Tyre wear does not work in career. If you want to play this mod for career, install the Career version of the mod
Flashbacks
50 Flashbacks
Article and download link (need to be an RD member) here: http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/threads/f1-2012-realism-mod.60001/ The RD thread has links to other fixes too.
TJP
Member
If you can find F1 2012 for a cheap price (e.g. under $20/15 Euros) then yes F1 2012 is worth buying. Like many others in the F1 2012 thread, I was a day one buyer and got burnt and annoyed by CM's inability to completely fix the game despite CM releasing 12 patches in a few weeks post release (from memory patch #2 fixed 200 issues). Support for F1 2012 ceased a couple of months after release so these community fixes are a godsend!
There are many mods available on Race Department from graphical upgrades to cars and drivers to complete overhaul mods.
http://vimeo.com/60832987#at=0
http://www.virtualr.net/r3e-new-content-video-trailer
That's some really great content they have there
http://www.virtualr.net/r3e-new-content-video-trailer
That's some really great content they have there
http://vimeo.com/60832987#at=0
http://www.virtualr.net/r3e-new-content-video-trailer
That's some really great content they have there
I'd love to try SimBin's version of that Capri
. Still waiting for actual multiplayer in the game before I jump back in the game after the closed beta.thesuperfunk
Member
Maybe they ought to make an F1 demolition derby game. Dirt: Showdown was a blast.
brotkasten
Member
I think the biggest problem with F1 2012 was that they gave it to a B-Team, because the main team is probably focused on next gen.
thesuperfunk
Member
The biggest problem with F1 2012 was that it was about as unevloved from F1 2011 as F1 2011 was from F1 2010 ... It's sad to think that the best F1 game to come out in ages was the PS3 exclusive 6 years ago ...
TJP
Member
The CM made F1 games have all been riddled with issues and poor post release support; a complete contrast to the Dirt series and Grid which have been as issue free as one can expect for a modern game release. The most amazing thing is people still buy these F1 games!
drugstore_cowboy
Member
I kind of like them despite some game breaking flaws.
There's no other modern racing game series that offers a real career mode.
There's no other modern racing game series that offers a real career mode.
TJP
Member
Latest RaceRoom RE trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER4iduP6Etw
Suzuka, RUF RT12R and Mercedes Mclaren SLR 722 GT
Suzuka, RUF RT12R and Mercedes Mclaren SLR 722 GT
brotkasten
Member
You can say what you want about the terrible driving in GRID, but I thought the career mode was really well done.
TJP
Member
RUF - 299 VRP
722 - 279 VRP
Suzuka - 499 VRP
Total cost is around $12 USD; compared against 'traditional' sims RR-RE can become quite expensive.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm considering buying this instead of building my own mount for my G27:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0084EG3ZA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I had a design in mind to build myself but I feel like anything I build out of wood wouldn't be as compact and easily tucked away. $90 doesn't seem bad. Is a better alternative in the same price ballpark?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0084EG3ZA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I had a design in mind to build myself but I feel like anything I build out of wood wouldn't be as compact and easily tucked away. $90 doesn't seem bad. Is a better alternative in the same price ballpark?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Not sure about that stand, I've got a Wheelstand Pro v2.
Really good it is too, heavy, adjustable and sturdy. I used to get neck ache from using a low table but haven't had it since getting the stand. The centre post wasn't a problem either.
edit: oh, it works out pretty expensive in the states.
Really good it is too, heavy, adjustable and sturdy. I used to get neck ache from using a low table but haven't had it since getting the stand. The centre post wasn't a problem either.
edit: oh, it works out pretty expensive in the states.
Felix Lighter
Member
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004WTHEWW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This one? Yeah it's a bit more expensive but definitely looks good.
This one? Yeah it's a bit more expensive but definitely looks good.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Works out pretty cheap in the UK, not such a good deal in the states by the look of it.
I have whatever the Fanatec stand is... the Rennsport one. I have no complaints with it at all. I think they're all much of a muchness, really. Unless they're incredibly dodgy then they're all basically the same (from what I can gather).
PS. Did anyone try that F1 2012 major patch/mod thing? Does it fix any handling issues at all, or is it mostly gameplay (AI, weather, safety car etc.) stuff?
PS. Did anyone try that F1 2012 major patch/mod thing? Does it fix any handling issues at all, or is it mostly gameplay (AI, weather, safety car etc.) stuff?
Yeah I'm wondering that too since the game is 13$ on steam all week... really tempting!
How's the game with Fanatec wheels?
Big Takeover
Member
I finally stepped up to G25 pedals/Bodnar/GTEYE to go with my DFGT wheel which I've never had too many complaints about. I've taken a "happily make do" approach with my setups over the years because my time and interest ebbs and flows, but I just couldn't take any more of that bloody DFGT brake. Every corner was met with a trail of smoke off the inside front.
I can't vouch for the Fanatec side of things, but I can say that if you have the opportunity to steer clear of F1 2012, do so. 2011 is a lot more stable and just felt like a tighter package overall, whereas it's younger brother just kind of felt all over the shop and didn't feel like it had direction.
What I played of it, anyway. I chucked it in after a few hours from sheer frustration. The only game that's pissed me off as much is Saint's Row 3 and their lack of support ("working with AMD" on a slowdown issue since launch? I doubt it).
PS. I read that thing on the Kunos "no" votes and just shook my fucking head. You'd think there'd be a camaraderie amongst sim gamers so that all games have a chance to get on Steam. What a bunch of right cunts.
Has anyone bothered to have a look on forums etc. to see if there's any collusion? Maybe someone here who's signed up with them can suss out their forums (if you need to be a subscriber to see them). Could almost be worthy of a new thread as I'd imagine it could be quite an in-depth discussion that isn't necessarily specific to sim racing games.
Is it really that venomous? I remember when there was some fairly pathetic behaviour on VirtualR.net (or whatever it is) over SMS/pCARS for some reason, but didn't think that was typical of the "scene".
TJP
Member
The most stupid thing about the no voting situation on Steam is that behind the scenes the various sim developers apparently all get along. Examples of this are Aris from Kunos stating he is friends with Tim Wheatley of ISI on Race Department, the SimBin team are friends with the team at Kunos (the SimBin team play ALL the racing games, sim or arcade on PC or console) and I've seen iRacing dev's tweet positive statements about Assetto Corsa etc including 'WTF?' comments about no votes on Steam. Dickhead users who think one can only enjoy a single sim are the problem; it's asinine logic and quite harmful to the health of sim racing genre.
Editorial bias (perceived or otherwise) was a huge cause of friction once it became common knowledge the owner of VirtualR had became associated with the CARS project.
It's almost like Playstation vs. Xbox, but that's a little more justifiable (if at all) because it warrants a huge outlay from the beginning. Racing sims aren't and even for the bits that you do drop loads of cash on (peripherals etc.) they're used across the board. Those devs wouldn't have any reason to despise each other... why would the fans?
Literally does not make any sense at all.
Business
Member
Maybe people who have spent a good amount of money on iRacing and/or are subscribed for a long period are afraid if another better or more popular sim releases people will flee from iRacing. Not that this justifies it, but could at least partially explain it.
Hm, maybe. That's part of the reason I didn't stick with iRacing at all. You never actually *own* anything. It's the polar opposite of some of the other titles with the modding community where you own pretty much everything (small legalities aside, obviously) and don't have to pay a cent.
To me it makes no difference if the "game" is on steam (I'd even prefer buying it from the dev's directly like I did with Arma 3), but it would be great just for getting a bigger community and more visibility.
Also, I'm not one of those crazies who skips games because it's not on steam, I don't care where it is as long as it works.
Also, I'm not one of those crazies who skips games because it's not on steam
, I don't care where it is as long as it works.Big Takeover
Member
The notion of simulation is a blessing and a curse. Mostly a curse. It puts the whole genre in an inescapable box. The implication is that they're all striving to create the same thing. Talk about no wiggle room... What mistake that is. Now everything must be judged more or less real. Great...
So yeah, fuck simulation. They're racing games. Welcome, and enjoy their differences.
Bah F1 2012 is 9$ on Gamersgate... Fuck it, I'll give it a try and its 12 patches (and 1 mod lol).
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-F12012/f1-2012
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-F12012/f1-2012
Fantatec RennSport Cockpit V2 now available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ItnsDS8oYV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ItnsDS8oYV8
Pictures:
*Base
Seat options:
Fanatec RS Seat
Fanatec Sparco Pro 2000 Seat
Fanatec Sparco R333 Seat
(Nice!)
Accessories
Sound Holder
Single Monitor Mount
Triple Monitor Mount
Shifter Holder
Can you use a buttkicker with it?
Felix Lighter
Member
I ordered that wheel stand I mentioned earlier and it arrived yesterday. It should work fine but I have one major issue to solve, it slides around on my hard wood floor. I'm going to get some nonskid pads to attach to the base and I hope that'll do the trick.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Live for Speed is a great place to start, nice variety of (unlicensed) cars and ai to race against. Tracks themselves are good, just not enough of them.