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PC to PS3 Media Streaming (DLNA) Thread
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hmm, I played with a packet sniffer a bit. It seems that after each reboot PS3 is using different TCP ports for Media Server access. I've seen it using ports like 62505-62506 in one reboot and 52661-52663 in another, for example. Dont think its possible to set strict rules for it in router at all, but it basically shoudnt be neccessary within a home network. What can cause a decreased NAT/port havok after 1.80 is the new worldwide PSP connect functionality, but its impossible to check before 3.50 hits PSP next week. 
sk3tch said:
Out of curiosity, does the installer easily allow you to individually select which programs (out of the dozens on there) you want to install?
If so, I might pick it up since you can get it so cheap now.
Also, can you confirm whether the PS3 automatically sees thumbnails for videos when using your version of MediaHome? In the video from the OP, that's what it looked like. I would REALLY like that feature.
Norse
Member
finally got everything going....nero mediahome shared dirs checkbox issue is all...told it to just share my folders instead of the "all indexed by nero scout". It took forever for it to index my terastation of media. LOL....now everything is working...music, photos, and divx/xvid/everything. woo hoo.
What is everyone transcoding at in nero? I have it set to auto...anyone get better quality than auto?
What is everyone transcoding at in nero? I have it set to auto...anyone get better quality than auto?
Kinan said:
yeah on auto detect it looks like it's converting to low bitrate. I've tried setting low and high manually, and low definitely looks like the autodetect one.
Seems I've got problems too. Yesterday my modem/router wasn't working anymore. No internet, no TV, no phone.
I've tried rebooting it etc, nothing worked. Then I was like "oh well, time to sleep" so I turned my PS3 off, and then I got the internet back <_<
Maybe it's just a coincidence...
Problem is my modem got a firmware update yesterday too, and according to a friend (who doesn't own a PS3) it looks like it fuxxored the connections a bit.
So I don't know if it's my PS3 or my modem that's messing around :/
Has anyone tried Quicktime Broadcaster for Mac?
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/
Could be a solution.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/
Could be a solution.
Tried this myself last night with Nero MediaHome. Got everything working, I get thumbnails for all videos.
HOWEVER, when I try to run a Divx/Xvid file when MediaHome is set to autodetect for video, they fail to run. If I change it to MPEG1 in MediaHome, they work. Is this a problem with my PC not being powerful enough to convert in realtime, the fact that I'm streaming over wireless, or both?
HOWEVER, when I try to run a Divx/Xvid file when MediaHome is set to autodetect for video, they fail to run. If I change it to MPEG1 in MediaHome, they work. Is this a problem with my PC not being powerful enough to convert in realtime, the fact that I'm streaming over wireless, or both?
teiresias said:
It's iTunes on Windows. I just let the Nero Scout do its thing, and it eventually found all my music, including my iTunes stuff. Obviously can't play the DRMed stuff on the PS3 though.
Kinan said:
Do you know if that update changes much, or did they just update their list of supported devices?
Twonky seemed pretty decent already, though..just no transcoding :/Onix said:
Hmm..intuitively it shouldn't be, but I wonder if this is actually better than the Nero 7 media server. I've thusfar found transcoding to be spotty, and I sometimes get access denied errors and so on, so maybe CE will work more reliably? Are you able to transcode HD AVI or WMV files ok (and if so, what kind of spec does your PC have?)? Also, you say your MP3s start instantly? At the moment they don't for me with nero 7..
Goldrusher
Member
It really sucks video always starts from the beginning and you have to watch it in one go till the end.
No pause button, no fast forward, no starting a certain time, nothing.
Photo works great, so does music. Both with all their options.
No pause button, no fast forward, no starting a certain time, nothing.
Photo works great, so does music. Both with all their options.
Chû Totoro
Member
Twonky made my Mac go crazy.Kinan said:
I'll wait for an EyeConnect update.
But thanks anyway
Not even the Nero 7 trial MediaHome works for transcoding Avi stuff for me =/
I guess something is wrong with my PC.
I give up. Unless someone knows of another program that can do transcoding (for music tho, as I give up on video transcoding but I'm still interested in streaming transcodes from my lossless archive) I'm simply gonan set with Twonky for the time being, and WMP11 if I feel the need for some MP4 video I make.
I guess something is wrong with my PC.
I give up. Unless someone knows of another program that can do transcoding (for music tho, as I give up on video transcoding but I'm still interested in streaming transcodes from my lossless archive) I'm simply gonan set with Twonky for the time being, and WMP11 if I feel the need for some MP4 video I make.
TONX
Distinguished Air Superiority
I just did a quick neat trick, here it is if you're interested.
If you're using Windows Media Player to stream your media to the PS3 you can change the logo to whatever you like instead of the default Windows media logo.
I used this for obvious reasons:
it looks perfect on the XMB.
Here's how you do it in case you can't figure it out:
- Go to C:>Program Files>Windows Media Center>Network Sharing
- Change the file wmpnss_color120.jpg to whatever you want (i used PAINT.NET), as long as you don't move it to another folder or change the name of the file.
I don't have a camera on me to show you, but its definitely nice.
If you're using Windows Media Player to stream your media to the PS3 you can change the logo to whatever you like instead of the default Windows media logo.
I used this for obvious reasons:
it looks perfect on the XMB.
Here's how you do it in case you can't figure it out:
- Go to C:>Program Files>Windows Media Center>Network Sharing
- Change the file wmpnss_color120.jpg to whatever you want (i used PAINT.NET), as long as you don't move it to another folder or change the name of the file.
I don't have a camera on me to show you, but its definitely nice.
Can anyone offer some assistance?
I tried watching an episode of Daybreak (avi file) and it is super laggy! I am using Nero MediaHome with all settings on auto-detect. Should I change the video setting to something else?
My PC is wired to the router, but the PS3 is wireless (which I am assuming is the majority of setups). Any ideas as to what might be the problem?
I tried watching an episode of Daybreak (avi file) and it is super laggy! I am using Nero MediaHome with all settings on auto-detect. Should I change the video setting to something else?
My PC is wired to the router, but the PS3 is wireless (which I am assuming is the majority of setups). Any ideas as to what might be the problem?
TONX said:
Neat, thanks. I'm guessing there's a way to do the same for other servers too..will have to look into that for nero later.
Baptizer said:
I guess there's a couple of possibilities..it could be your wireless connection, or it could be your PC's performance with transcoding. What's the resolution of the file? SD files seem to transcode OK for me, but HD stuff is juddery .. I haven't really messed about with the settings to see if any improvement can be had.
Lain said:
From http://www.twonkyvision.de/Support/Developers/index.html:
You may have to do some Googling if you have problems, or check TwonkyMedia's forum. I haven't personally done it. As I said, I just use their TwonkyMusic app because it is free and it effortlessly handles my 300GB music collection.
Onix said:
Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to.
If you're doing a Nero 7 install, be sure to manually select components. Do not do a typical install. It will fill your box full o' bloat. There is a TON of stuff in Nero 7 that is not needed by the average person (especially since they have PhotoShop wannabes and all kinds of other apps in there).
gofreak said:
Hi gofreak! Thanks for trying to assist, I appreciate it. The video is a 350MB SD file that is in widescreen format (at work...don't know exact specifics right now unfortunately). My PC isn't exactly old (2ish Ghz AMD64 bit processor; 2GB RAM: 2x150GB HD RAID 0 setup), but it has been awhile since I have upgrade.
I also tried watching some movies we made with our Sony mini-dvd camcorder.....same results: Laggy as hell and when turning on the 'information' screen on the ps3, the rate stops often. It is impossible to watch anything
Baptizer said:Hi gofreak! Thanks for trying to assist, I appreciate it. The video is a 350MB SD file that is in widescreen format (at work...don't know exact specifics right now unfortunately). My PC isn't exactly old (2ish Ghz AMD64 bit processor; 2GB RAM: 2x150GB HD RAID 0 setup), but it has been awhile since I have upgrade.
I also tried watching some movies we made with our Sony mini-dvd camcorder.....same results: Laggy as hell and when turning on the 'information' screen on the ps3, the rate stops often. It is impossible to watch anything
It sounds like it's probably an issue on the networking end, then. My AMDx2 3800 with 512MB of RAM transcodes SD Divx AVIs fine. Is there any way for you to test with a wired connection to see if it's a wireless issue or not? There's lots of other possibilities too, I guess, but I'm not a big networking expert. Stuff could be happening at your router, with firewalls etc. etc.
gofreak said:
I have a Dlink 624 wireless router and would be more than happy to upgrade if that was the problem. Wish I could test with a wireless connection, but the router/PC are upstairs and the PS3 is on the floor underneath (pretty much directly underneath; I could take the ps3 upstairs temporarily to give it a test).
To put things into perspective, I don't have any difficulties downloading stuff from the PSN (never get a failed transfer, etc) and my wireless laptop has no problems downloading files, etc from the internet when we are on the 1st level (or even in the basement).
*cry*Baptizer said:I have a Dlink 624 wireless router and would be more than happy to upgrade if that was the problem. Wish I could test with a wireless connection, but the router/PC are upstairs and the PS3 is on the floor underneath (pretty much directly underneath; I could take the ps3 upstairs temporarily to give it a test).
To put things into perspective, I don't have any difficulties downloading stuff from the PSN (never get a failed transfer, etc) and my wireless laptop has no problems downloading files, etc from the internet when we are on the 1st level (or even in the basement).
Do natively supported videos e.g. mpeg2 have the same problem? If not, then maybe it's not a networking problem. Although it sounds like your PC should be up to transcoding SD stuff reasonably well at least.
jonhuz said:Anyone know how to solve the access to media server denied error? I'm using a macbook pro/ eyeconnect and it's finding my music, I can browse it, but whenever I try to play it, I get the above error
It's a pretty frustrating error..I had it randomnly happen with nero, mostly with videos. Hard to say what causes it, let alone how to fix it, it probably varies from server to server. Try restarting the server and/or your PS3 and see if that fixes it.
I'm super frustrated. My PC running Vista with nero 7 is recognized by both Mediahome and the PS3, but no files appear, and for some reason, Nero Scout DOES NOT install in Vista! I've reinstalled Nero 3 times (just did the cleanup and doing the last attempt) VERY frustrating.... anyone else have this happen?
Nevermind.. the fresh install seems to of cured that one.. lets see if it works!
Nevermind.. the fresh install seems to of cured that one.. lets see if it works!
Ok, so the good thing I see is that it works, and I can finally see my music, however, (and this may be a byproduct of the DLNA working) I hit an mp3 and it took about 2 mins to load, in my curiosity, I looked at the status and while it was loading the song, I saw very quickly the other songs in the folder processing in the background. They would fly by; I assume this is the PS3 doing it's own indexing of the folder?
Chû Totoro
Member
bluheim said:
After installation it asked me to restart.
My Mac then showed a message telling that there was something cwrong in the start "rights" (or something like that)
Plus i didn't know where i should launch or parameter the application because there were neither Twonky folder in the drive nor icons in the preference menu.
EyeConnect seems more user friendly and that's a big point for me (it take me 2 min to configure the Mac) so i'll wait for an update.
tgenius said:
I've seen a delay with mp3s starting also, with nero, but not quite 2 mins. Maybe several seconds. Not sure why there's a delay since mp3s should be passed without transcoding, and videos seem to start immediately for me if they're not being transcoded. MP3s are obviously even smaller in size.
It might have something to do with the PS3 'processing' other mp3 files, but I hadn't noticed it doing that. It seemed to me it would only go and load thumbnails for other mp3s if you scrolled down through the list.
Can you see if videos start faster for you? If it is indeed related to 'processing' other files, my videos may have been starting quickly because at the time only a few videos were showing up (nero hadn't indexed the vast majority of them the last I tried it).
TONX
Distinguished Air Superiority
OK, so i tested out 3 programs extensively, Windows Media Player, TVersity, and Nero MediaHome. Mind you im using a PS3 connected to a linksys router, WIRED. Here's are the pro's and con's.
Windows Media Player
Pros:
- Fastest response time for music, videos, and photos.
- Customizable Icon (that may change soon.)
- Easiest to set up
Cons:
- No transcoding for anything
- No icons for videos or music
TVersity
Pros:
- Total control over your files (i.e. you can choose to show only videos in your My Videos folder, instead of lumping everything together in 1 folder.)
- Clean and simple interface
- Limited transcoding for videos (works 50% of the time and usually lags)
Cons:
- Music does not work at all
- Freezes occasionally
Nero MediaHome
Pros:
- Icons of your music albums and videos will show up
- Ability to name your media link on the XMB (for example, "My Media Files" instead of just "Computer name: Username"
- Transcoding videos works better than TVersity
Cons:
- Transcoding isn't that much better. Works more than TVersty, but still gets errors
- Convoluted mess of files. It doesn't really organize well at all.
- Takes a long time to shuffle songs, im talking like 5 seconds between songs. Whereas WMP was instantaneous.
So thats my experience with these three. I'm just going to use WMP for now until an actual program comes out and alleviates these issues. Shouldn't take that long until that happens(i hope).
Windows Media Player
Pros:
- Fastest response time for music, videos, and photos.
- Customizable Icon (that may change soon.)
- Easiest to set up
Cons:
- No transcoding for anything
- No icons for videos or music
TVersity
Pros:
- Total control over your files (i.e. you can choose to show only videos in your My Videos folder, instead of lumping everything together in 1 folder.)
- Clean and simple interface
- Limited transcoding for videos (works 50% of the time and usually lags)
Cons:
- Music does not work at all
- Freezes occasionally
Nero MediaHome
Pros:
- Icons of your music albums and videos will show up
- Ability to name your media link on the XMB (for example, "My Media Files" instead of just "Computer name: Username"
- Transcoding videos works better than TVersity
Cons:
- Transcoding isn't that much better. Works more than TVersty, but still gets errors
- Convoluted mess of files. It doesn't really organize well at all.
- Takes a long time to shuffle songs, im talking like 5 seconds between songs. Whereas WMP was instantaneous.
So thats my experience with these three. I'm just going to use WMP for now until an actual program comes out and alleviates these issues. Shouldn't take that long until that happens(i hope).
gofreak said:
Change the audio-transcoding of audio from Auto-Detect to Keep original format. This way, Nero and the PS3 don't have to communicate about valid audio-formats. Just shove the MP3 right down the pipeline, PS3 can handle it.
(note that all of this theory, I'm at work, I can't test it out myself.)
Goldrusher said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was a bit bothered by the time to took for files to register on ps3 from the media server.(granted I have a lot of media files but that's besides the point
) The video quality was a bit of a let down as well. I was a little frustrated at one point because I can do the exact same thing on my modded xbox 1 where the video quality is perfect and the refresh rate on the media menus are a little bit better. It works great for music and photos and that will come in handy when Sony decides to add custom soundtracks. For now, I can only hope that Sony will allow DIVX, MKV and all the other video formats to be readable with the next update. This one wasn't bad, though. They got the ball rolling.Lain said:
Vieos show on the PS3 as mpeg2 files but won't load ?
If that's the case, did you check "PAL" under the video format selection menu (you can choose NTSC, PAL, or leave it as original). It's in the transcoding options.
I couldn't play uncharted trailers at all by using the default setting. When I checked PAL, it immediatly worked and the video played on my TV like 10secs after I launched it.
So, for people who own PAL PS3's, you MUST select PAL under MediaHome to make it work.
gofreak said:
It worked for me. MP3s now stream instantaneously
For some reason WMP11 refuses to work correctly with my PS3. It only shares some of my photos, but then refuses to handshake and show the rest.
It refuses to do anything with my music library as well, maybe cause its so big? I have no idea. It works perfectly with Nero Mediahome
Hey guys! Using Nero Mediahome over here and before i had some issues with transcoded Xvid being a little studdery. Well i think i fixed it. In the network settings for MediaHome DONT use the default setting. Change to a specific port number and then take that port number and put it into your Firewall Exceptions list. Works smooth now! Try it out let me know if that helps any of you having that problem too.
Before i just had MediaHome in my firewall accepted programs list but i dont think that does the job fully.
Before i just had MediaHome in my firewall accepted programs list but i dont think that does the job fully.