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[gofreak]

It worked for me. MP3s now stream instantaneously

Actually, El Capitan's suggestion has fixed this for me. Putting the port explicitly on my firewall's allow list lets the mp3s stream immediately. I wonder what other performance benefits there are..

However, nero and my PS3 don't play very well together with a fixed port number in terms of restarting the server. If I restart the server using a fixed port, my PS3 doesn't pick it up again after the restart. It does pick up the server after restarts when I use a random port number, though..

 

[Ragnarok10]

Does WMP11 work with Windows Server 2003?

 

[Evazan]

Actually, El Capitan's suggestion has fixed this for me. Putting the port explicitly on my firewall's allow list lets the mp3s stream immediately. I wonder what other performance benefits there are..

However, nero and my PS3 don't play very well together with a fixed port number in terms of restarting the server. If I restart the server using a fixed port, my PS3 doesn't pick it up again after the restart. It does pick up the server after restarts when I use a random port number, though..

Hmm havent tried that yet. I do notice that if i manual stop and start the server on my pc it automaticly comes up on the XMB. Havent tried restarting yet though. What version of MediaHome is everyone using? Mine looks like its an older one.

1.4.0.7

Downloading an update now.

 

[gofreak]

Actually, to correct what I said in my last post, it's gone back to having delays with mp3s, even with the explicitly allowed port. Using another port previously it worked immediately with the first mp3 i tried, at least, but not it's the same as before. Puzzling :/

 

[Raist]

Hmm. I'm a complete noob in network stuff.

So Kinan said that disconnection problems may be due to port conflicts. But what defines the ports used ? The streaming PC or the PS3 ?

If it's the PC, I guess setting a port manually on nero should fix it, no ?

Now the problem will be to pick a port that's completely unused by any program I guess

 

[Raistlin]

For those that do not currently have a lot of video files, and are looking to 'start from scratch' ... I think it would be good if everyone could recommend file formats, and software for transcoding, etc. that goes well with PS3.

What is everyone using?

 

[Kinan]

Hmm. I'm a complete noob in network stuff.

So Kinan said that disconnection problems may be due to port conflicts. But what defines the ports used ? The streaming PC or the PS3 ?

If it's the PC, I guess setting a port manually on nero should fix it, no ?

Now the problem will be to pick a port that's completely unused by any program I guess

Its all quite puzzling, I must admit. Now that I have bit more time I'll try to crack the problem. So far I'd recommend you to set your PC client to port around 42000 (like TVersity's 41952), seems to produce most stable results for me.
The problem here is that PS3 use different ports EVERY restart, and some combinations PC port/PS3 port work ok, and some not. I'll write when I have more info.

 

[kaching]

Does the PS3 seem to cycle through ports it uses from session to session, or just randomly select?

 

[tgenius]

It's funny you mention that.. when I was trying before, I had it set to use a specific port, 45000 or so, and then the PS3 would see MediaHome (No Firewall on Vista) but no files, when i changed it to auto port, it seems to of worked; I'm sure this is just the first release, but in the future, it will be a mature interface for this.

I think it's just fantastic that the next gen consoles after this will have this from the get-go, or they should...

 

[Kinan]

Does the PS3 seem to cycle through ports it uses from session to session, or just randomly select?

I just discovered, its actually drifting down... even within the session. I was just watching as while browsing through folders, shared in tversity, in XMB PS3 ports drifted 51885 to 51658. Thats got to be a part of UPnP or something.

http://i9.tinypic.com/687r3iu.jpg

Source port - my PS3, destination - tversity server.

 

[Raist]

Meh, just checked my PS3's network settings, I'm on NAT type 3 with NO UPnP support <_<


And still the streaming seems to work fine. didn't have any connection problems so far today. So maybe it was just a problem with my ISP yesterday (since people with the same FAI but no PS3 had similar problems too)

Bah... I give up :lol

 

[Kinan]

Meh, just checked my PS3's network settings, I'm on NAT type 3 with NO UPnP support <_<


And still the streaming seems to work fine. didn't have any connection problems so far today. So maybe it was just a problem with my ISP yesterday (since people with the same FAI but no PS3 had similar problems too)

Bah... I give up :lol

I believe all got NAT downgrade with 1.80. I had type1, got type 2 now, people who had type 2 have type 3.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Alright so everything but transcoding of Divx files works for me. Anyone get Divx transcoding working for Mediahome?

it just ... worked ... i didn't do anything special

 

[sk3tch]

Does WMP11 work with Windows Server 2003?

Nope, use TwonkyVision's stuff (see my post earlier in the thread). I've got a Windows Server 2003 box with a 300GB RAID5 full of MP3s...it works like a charm! I am using the free music-only version.

 

[Raist]

I believe all got NAT downgrade with 1.80. I had type1, got type 2 now, people who had type 2 have type 3.

Yah that's what I understood after posting and reading through the several topics.

But for UPnP, shouldn't it be allowed ? oO


Note that if I disable the edia server stuff in the network settings, neither NAT type nor UPnP support change...

 

[teepo]

only problem i have is i can't fast forward or rewinding using mediahome nor does it seem to support any subtitles.

i just want sony to hurry up with the promised divx support.

 

[Kinan]

Yah that's what I understood after posting and reading through the several topics.

But for UPnP, shouldn't it be allowed ? oO


Note that if I disable the edia server stuff in the network settings, neither NAT type nor UPnP support change...

Well, that UPnP status you see in network setting do not have much to do (at least directly) with media sharing. Its only say you that your router do not support (or do not have it enabled) UPnP NAT Traversal, which "enables UPnP packages to pass through a router or firewall without problems and without user interaction." My router does not have this feature, so I never had UPnP enabled in network status of PS3.
Probably if your router allows that, it can be helpful to enable it.

 

[Evazan]

it just ... worked ... i didn't do anything special

What version do you have?

 

[Lain]

For those that do not currently have a lot of video files, and are looking to 'start from scratch' ... I think it would be good if everyone could recommend file formats, and software for transcoding, etc. that goes well with PS3.

What is everyone using?

I use MeGUI to make video files in general and for my PS3. Gives alot of control over the creation and tweaking of the files, but I wouldn't recommend it to novices as it requires a bit of fiddling around. H264 MP4 have to be made with main profile 4.1 level or they wont work (or work well) on PS3, and audio has to be AAC in the MP4.

 

[KurowaSan]

alright, i guess i'll post it.
i've been playing with TVersity profiles these past two days trying to get transcoding working properly.

using "mpeg1-2 video device" profile , i'm getting xvid and divx files to work. i gotta say that sometimes, and i don't know why, it just doesn't work. it usually says that access to the media server was denied, you just have to try again (and most of the times, it will start playing anyway, even if it shows the message).

when it does work (i should say that RIGHT NOW, it is working flawlessly each time i try to encode a file, so...), it encodes faster than when i use tversity with the 360, i guess encoding files to mpeg is faster than to wmv.

oh, and about mp3s, i'm open to suggestions :lol i haven't tried too much, but i just don't get them to work.

 

[tgenius]

Now the million dollar question is at some point will the XMB/DNLA interface mature to the point that you can FF and RWD on MP3/AVI files or is that just not going to be possible?

 

[Raist]

Well, that UPnP status you see in network setting do not have much to do (at least directly) with media sharing. Its only say you that your router do not support (or do not have it enabled) UPnP NAT Traversal, which "enables UPnP packages to pass through a router or firewall without problems and without user interaction." My router does not have this feature, so I never had UPnP enabled in network status of PS3.
Probably if your router allows that, it can be helpful to enable it.

Just checked my ISP's website (well yeah, actually my modem acts as a routeur, so I have to configure it online) and I have no UPnP setting.

I can only set ports, proxy WOL, DHCP stuff (range, and I can also set a permanent DHCP thing -no idea what it's used for-), and set the DMZ and the stream service (with it and a small prog, my modem actually just acts as the PS3 can now and I can stream stuff from my PC to my TV. Pretty cool but the menus and UI are terrible :/. I can also use it to stream a DVD from my comp to my TV)

Oh btw, should the PS3 be set as the DMZ or is it better to leave it to my comp ?

 

[Oni Jazar]

NAT1 means the PS3 is directly connected to the internet.

NAT2 means the PS3 is behind a router.

It's not really a "downgrade"

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Streaming is cool. Being able to copy shit straight over the network from the PC to the PS3 is awesome.

 

[Lord Error]

Now the million dollar question is at some point will the XMB/DNLA interface mature to the point that you can FF and RWD on MP3/AVI files or is that just not going to be possible?

You can already FF and RWD through MP3 files using WMP11 as a server.

 

[Raist]

NAT1 means the PS3 is directly connected to the internet.

NAT2 means the PS3 is behind a router.

It's not really a "downgrade"

Oh lol, ok :lol

But what does NAT3 stand for ?

 

[mrklaw]

For those that do not currently have a lot of video files, and are looking to 'start from scratch' ... I think it would be good if everyone could recommend file formats, and software for transcoding, etc. that goes well with PS3.

What is everyone using?

MPEG2. Keep it simple.

Unlike MP4 where you have to make sure the flavour is right, PS3 will play several containers of MPEG2 - .ts, .ps (.mpg), vob

Plus it transcodes bloody fast. A good batch transcoder on a decent system could rip through a shedload of SD Divx overnight. PS3video9 is actually pretty good for this.

You'll probably have to play with the bitrates for different source videos, but I think thats the best. Should stream nice and easy too.

If you have .ts stuff, run it through VLC wizard to convert to .ps format (saved as .mpg) if you'r ehaving problems with sound. Takes less than a minute for an hours 720p .ts file

I'd like Divx support and I think it's likely to come from tversity in the next few weeks. But if not, then converting everything to MPEG2 wouldn't be a big deal for me. *Way* quicker than converting stuff to AVC, thats for sure

 

[Kinan]

NAT1 means the PS3 is directly connected to the internet.

NAT2 means the PS3 is behind a router.

It's not really a "downgrade"

well, yea, but from 2 to 3 its definitely a "downgrade". what I had in mind is that before 1.80 I had type 1, cause I opened all ports that PS3 needs manually in router. 1.80 obviously added some new ports, so my connection status at PS3 shows Nat 2 now.

 

[Norse]

nero mediahome is cool as its one program that works with both 360 and ps3....have everything working on ps3 so far....360 I have pictures and music working....but has anyone gotten the movies to work? If so, what transcode setting did you use?

and even though I have asked this in mega threads, nobody seems to want to answer what router model they are using with their ps3? My buffalo wbr2 g54s always says NAT 3 on ps3 now matter what settings. 360 shows NAT as Open which is best. No idea what the ps3 issue is.

 

[Mmmkay]

*slaps forehead* PS3Video9 does have a setting for peak bitrate. When editing or creating a profile, it's listed in 'Advanced 1'. The values are in kbps and you should set the buffer size to be the same as the maximum bitrate.

 

[Kinan]

nero mediahome is cool as its one program that works with both 360 and ps3....have everything working on ps3 so far....360 I have pictures and music working....but has anyone gotten the movies to work? If so, what transcode setting did you use?

and even though I have asked this in mega threads, nobody seems to want to answer what router model they are using with their ps3? My buffalo wbr2 g54s always says NAT 3 on ps3 now matter what settings. 360 shows NAT as Open which is best. No idea what the ps3 issue is.

Basically to get nat 2 you should open these ports for PS3 on your router: TCP: 80, 443, 5223
UDP: 3478, 3479, 3658.
Or enable DMZ.

 

[Raist]

Well I've just set my PS3's IP as DMZ and now I'm back to NAT2.

Too lazy to open the ports :lol

 

[Lain]

From http://www.twonkyvision.de/Support/Developers/index.html:



You may have to do some Googling if you have problems, or check TwonkyMedia's forum. I haven't personally done it. As I said, I just use their TwonkyMusic app because it is free and it effortlessly handles my 300GB music collection.

Thanks, I'm gonna try that and see if it works for me.

 

[Raistlin]

For audio, does anyone know how to the following (either with WMP 11 or MediaHome - the free version):


Play an album in order


Any way to get album art, etc?

 

[Norse]

Basically to get nat 2 you should open these ports for PS3 on your router: TCP: 80, 443, 5223
UDP: 3478, 3479, 3658.
Or enable DMZ.

its in the DMZ but still gives NAT 3. What router are you guys using?

 

[Raist]

its in the DMZ but still gives NAT 3. What router are you guys using?

Did you reboot your PS3 after setting it's IP to DMZ ?

If not, just do it

 

[rc213]

PS3 (10070-10080 TCP)
(10070-10070 UDP)
(6000-6999 UDP)


Always showed up as NAT2 since I purchased the PS3. Never had problems connecting either.

 

[Miniboss1232]

From http://www.twonkyvision.de/Support/Developers/index.html:



You may have to do some Googling if you have problems, or check TwonkyMedia's forum. I haven't personally done it. As I said, I just use their TwonkyMusic app because it is free and it effortlessly handles my 300GB music collection.

Just wanted to say that I tried the transcoding thing with TwonkyMedia and VLC, and it's not actually what I think most people here are wanting. Basically, you set VLC up to stream one file (ONE FILE!) and TwonkyMedia will be able to list that file that is currently playing on your PC in your PS3 video list. There's no on-demand transcoding support in TwonkyMedia. Which is sad, because everything else works great (pictures, music).

 

[Norse]

Did you reboot your PS3 after setting it's IP to DMZ ?

If not, just do it

done that many of times....both router and ps3...still NAT 3


again, what routers are you guys using? Thanks for the help so far...I will plug in those ports and see if that helps as well.

 

[Kinan]

Just wanted to say that I tried the transcoding thing with TwonkyMedia and VLC, and it's not actually what I think most people here are wanting. Basically, you set VLC up to stream one file (ONE FILE!) and TwonkyMedia will be able to list that file that is currently playing on your PC in your PS3 video list. There's no on-demand transcoding support in TwonkyMedia. Which is sad, because everything else works great (pictures, music).

was just going to try that. VLC recoding is quite nice and format support is outstanding so I hoped that it will be the best solution.
Actually, there are attempts to implement UPnP in VLC player directly, and eventually it will be done, but as for now, you can only manually compile a Linux (and maybe Mac) version of VLC with Cyberlink plugin support that may enable Upnp, but currently still in rather rough state. If you are linux guru and do not afraid C, you can give it try.

 

[Raist]

done that many of times....both router and ps3...still NAT 3


again, what routers are you guys using? Thanks for the help so far...I will plug in those ports and see if that helps as well.

Sucks :/

Well can't help you for the router since it's a "custom" one from my ISP.

But if DMZ doesn't work, I doubt opening ports manually would help. You can still give it a try I guess.

 

[Midas]

Has anyone got the error code: 80028818? I'm trying to play regular MPEG2, the movie starts with sound and everything and after like 10 seconds I get that message, weird.

I tried another file now, it works but without sound. :lol

 

[S. L.]

Does WMP11 work with Windows Server 2003?

with a lot of workaround hacking you can get it to work on 2k3,
but as suggested i would simply use another solution as it is a pain in the ass to get it working

 

[sk3tch]

with a lot of workaround hacking you can get it to work on 2k3,
but as suggested i would simply use another solution as it is a pain in the ass to get it working

Yeah, I should have mentioned that *natively* or *supported-wise* there is no way to use WMP11 or as a matter of fact any UPnP stuff on Windows Server 2003. This is information that I received from a Microsoft employee that works on the Core OS (via a Google search :lol ).

 

[dose]

With Nero MediaHome how are you supposed to sort your mp3s on the PC side? I have a directory shared which has for example a Jean-Michel Jarre folder, then inside that another folder with the Album title, which then contains the albums mp3s.

So...
Jean-Michel Jarre/Oxygene/.mp3s

However when I try browsing on the PS3 I can never seem to find them like that, they're just listed in a weird order, mixed up with other directories etc...
Anyone sorted this?

 

[tha_con]

So I've tried WMP11, and I can stream my music, but only music in select folders (not everything in the library) and I can't stream any video at all.

Anyone got any ideas?

 

[NekoFever]

MPEG2. Keep it simple.

Unlike MP4 where you have to make sure the flavour is right, PS3 will play several containers of MPEG2 - .ts, .ps (.mpg), vob

I've actually found that converting to MP4, when done in the correct way, is by far the best format to go for. If you do it in such a way that the PS3 can read it, it can also be read by the 360, the iPod, the PSP (resolution permitting on the last two), etc, and it's much smaller than the MPEG-2 equivalent. Unless you're happy to be transcoding often MPEG-2 is only good for the PS3 and PC.

I didn't realise that the PS3 could handle MPEG-2 TS files though, which is handy since that's the format my PVR saves recordings in. Thanks for that.

 

[Raistlin]

With Nero MediaHome how are you supposed to sort your mp3s on the PC side? I have a directory shared which has for example a Jean-Michel Jarre folder, then inside that another folder with the Album title, which then contains the albums mp3s.

So...
Jean-Michel Jarre/Oxygene/.mp3s

However when I try browsing on the PS3 I can never seem to find them like that, they're just listed in a weird order, mixed up with other directories etc...
Anyone sorted this?

I'd like to know the same.


Also, how does one create supported playlists?

How can play an album straight through?

Is the any way to get the album cover to show up (similar to how the video thumbs work)?

 

[Raistlin]

MPEG2. Keep it simple.

Unlike MP4 where you have to make sure the flavour is right, PS3 will play several containers of MPEG2 - .ts, .ps (.mpg), vob

Does anyone know of a good (and fast) DVD ripper that can be set to automatically convert AC3 to some PS3 supported audio (PCM even)?



If you rip a DVD to a single VOB, the PS3 will play it. The problem is, the soundtrack doesn't seem to work if played directly ... just the video? I assume the PS3 media player has an issue with AC3 soundtracks?


If your DVD has a PCM soundtrack, you can probably just rip the VOB and get sound ... unfortunately, most movies don't have this.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Basically to get nat 2 you should open these ports for PS3 on your router: TCP: 80, 443, 5223
UDP: 3478, 3479, 3658.
Or enable DMZ.

nice, Type 2!