vasametropolis
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Then it was a waste of time, in my opinion. They were too focused on supporting the back catalogue instead of thinking forward.
PCs are better than consoles argument tree
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Chance Hale
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The pc version of Witcher 3 is far, far beyond the console versions and is less buggy. Arkham Knight is a major and unprecedented in modern times exception.
And hell, I was still able to finish Arkham Knight at 30 fps
This might totally be dependant on my personalised search results, but googling for "master race" gives me one link at the top to the nazi ideology, and the rest is all PC master race related. Astounding and somewhat frightening. As a PC gamer it makes me uncomfortable to be loosely associated with that kind of thinking. The tongue-in-cheek nature of the term seems to have been lost over the years.
fluffydelusions
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How so? There are tons of games outside of competitive shooters that would benefit from this controller. Competitive CS:GO users were never going to use this for it anyway
It's embraced by a special stupid subset, and not a single PC gamer in this thread brought up that shitty attitude. But Frostav still managed to do nazi analogies to talk about people in this thread.
shhhh we don't want them knowing too much about us, we will lose our mystique and the legends they create about us will be for naught.
btw are you going to attend the next meeting of the Fraternal Order of the Eastern Knights of the PC? we really should pass new regulations to eliminate the subreddit lodges from besmirching Our Community
Soltype
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I'm not going to lie, I was a little scared when I put my first PC together, but I'm sure things are much easier today.
I thought master race was originally an insult?
On the other side, there are plenty of people in console threads that automatically port beg for the PC as well. Basically there are idiots everywhere from all walks of life. It's just not worth generalizing everyone.
You got it.
vasametropolis
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I just think if they were going to spend that much time developing a controller that deviated from the norm, they probably should have tried to make something completely new. I don't doubt it will have it's place, but it seems like a half measure. I can understand their perspective, but I would have tried something crazy.
ScatheZombie
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Yep, it was an exception. Just like Dead Island, Battlefield 4, FF14, Unity, SimCity, every Bethesda game ever ...
Exceptions, man. That shit doesn't happen regularly.
fluffydelusions
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Like what?
Chance Hale
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All of those games are far better on pc, not sure what you are on about. And SimCity has poor cpu optimization but welcome to city builders (plus that's exclusive)
derExperte
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I haven't embraced anything and and as far as I can tell the vast majority of PC gamers here hasn't either. It was a mildly funny joke all those years ago which then got ruined by a bunch of fuckwits and now for unintelligible reasons gets brought up here every other time someone thinks a PC gamer said something outrageous.
Head.spawn
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It's coming....
But you are right. I remember years ago for the orginal Xbox there was the fps controller that had all the face buttons mapped to the back of the controller. I loved using it for Halo 2. I wish that had caught on more. Not exactly great for precision but better than the average layout for shooters. Sticks will just inherently be less accurate than a mouse and the fine granuliar controls that it provides. Hopefully the Steam controller is all that and a bag of chips.
Found it. It didn't have great ergonomics but it was very handy in Halo 2.
I used to have that controller. It was amazing once you got used to it, but I had to physically remove the trigger guards as the controller was designed for girly handed people.
Brofist
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Do you buy a whole new car when you have a problem with that too?
Ah yes, the multiplatform game that is Simcity sure as heck had a bungled PC version. Boy, those developers shortchanged everything about the PC version in particular. The game was fantastic on consoles though, a great case for why consoles are superior.
Battlefield 4 was just as broken on consoles. Sim City isn't even worth mentioning as, putting its tragically bad performance issues aside, it simply wasn't a good game(Cities: Skylines renewed my faith in the future of city builders, fortunately). Every bethesda game ever is glitchy as hell on all platforms(And even more broken when it comes to the PS3), but at least on PC mods can fix it, and add to the gameplay.
I say this as someone who has bought BF 4 for PS4, and quite a few bethesda games both on console and PC.
fluffydelusions
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For real. We have PC help threads here for if you have issues. Just ask. No need to buy a completely new PC due to a single failing part
Comparing any of those example to the literally unplayable AK doesn't help your argument. Don't even mention bethesda PC while ignoring that crap ass PS3 skyrim port they let out. Also lets not talk about failures DriveClub PS+ not even working is pathetic worse than AK. Certain devs just don't have the goods be it pc or console we get in to this mess because they know cause of mass consumers never taking them to task when they should.
Most of the games mention now play decently or pretty well.
I honestly don't understand what the intention of this thread is? Are we supposed to be stating why we think one gaming platform is superior to others as facts?
I feel in the end there's a list for why PC gaming is good and there's a list for why console gaming is good, the lists may not be equal in size or length but at the end of the day everyone has at least one bullet point on a side that they agree with and that bullet point may be all the reason they need to think their platform is the best.
Personally my bullet point for being a console gamer is the higher number of AAA exclusives it has. Yes I know PC has more exclusives than all consoles combined, yes I know that PC exclusives have a lot of diversity, no none of this matters to me. I didn't own a PS3 or Xbox 360 I did own a PS2 though and I enjoyed it a bunch. I tried PC gaming for a while during the PS360 era and tried a bunch of exclusive games from torchlight/torchlight 2 to warframe to vindictus, to team fortress 2 and even niche ones like rumble fighter. I went back to the PS4 when it launched and I've learned that I just like AAA games with all the free psplus indie games even the ones that many of gaf adore like binding of isaac and shovel knight being completely boring to me only a few give me a long period of enjoyment. Games like ISS, Witcher 3, MGSV, and Batman are what I seem to truly enjoy and I will game wherever I get the most of those. As for others if someone just loves graphics they'll game on PC on the best hardware. If someone loves JRPGs they'll always game where they get the best JRPGs or the most JRPGs. If someone always wants the most popular thing they'll always go with the most popular and accepted thing. If someone always wants the easiest place to pick up and play they'll game on the easiest place to pick up and play which is currently mobile.
Oh and for the PC people who are on a crusade to get everyone to switch to PC gaming more power to you. Although if Sony or Microsoft every see you as a threat remember the lead up to the Xbox one launch with all the Sony ads with ridicule and misleading information, and the Xbox one was a device with a very strong company behind it to support it. Also money hats are a thing even if it's not a permanent exclusive do you want every game to be coming out years later? The metal gear online thread would indicate not.
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Everyone has a bullet point that they care the most about when it comes to gaming whether that be not ever paying for online, or the best graphics, or having the most popular thing.
I feel in the end there's a list for why PC gaming is good and there's a list for why console gaming is good, the lists may not be equal in size or length but at the end of the day everyone has at least one bullet point on a side that they agree with and that bullet point may be all the reason they need to think their platform is the best.
Personally my bullet point for being a console gamer is the higher number of AAA exclusives it has. Yes I know PC has more exclusives than all consoles combined, yes I know that PC exclusives have a lot of diversity, no none of this matters to me. I didn't own a PS3 or Xbox 360 I did own a PS2 though and I enjoyed it a bunch. I tried PC gaming for a while during the PS360 era and tried a bunch of exclusive games from torchlight/torchlight 2 to warframe to vindictus, to team fortress 2 and even niche ones like rumble fighter. I went back to the PS4 when it launched and I've learned that I just like AAA games with all the free psplus indie games even the ones that many of gaf adore like binding of isaac and shovel knight being completely boring to me only a few give me a long period of enjoyment. Games like ISS, Witcher 3, MGSV, and Batman are what I seem to truly enjoy and I will game wherever I get the most of those. As for others if someone just loves graphics they'll game on PC on the best hardware. If someone loves JRPGs they'll always game where they get the best JRPGs or the most JRPGs. If someone always wants the most popular thing they'll always go with the most popular and accepted thing. If someone always wants the easiest place to pick up and play they'll game on the easiest place to pick up and play which is currently mobile.
Oh and for the PC people who are on a crusade to get everyone to switch to PC gaming more power to you. Although if Sony or Microsoft every see you as a threat remember the lead up to the Xbox one launch with all the Sony ads with ridicule and misleading information, and the Xbox one was a device with a very strong company behind it to support it. Also money hats are a thing even if it's not a permanent exclusive do you want every game to be coming out years later? The metal gear online thread would indicate not.
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REveryone has a bullet point that they care the most about when it comes to gaming whether that be not ever paying for online, or the best graphics, or having the most popular thing.
darthsontin
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PCs may be able to run games better and cheaper, but they still lack serious functionality like native wireless controller support in the OS, the ability to sign in a second player (my wife hates PS4 co-op games that don't give her trophies), and a convenient form factor for living rooms at a reasonable price. Maybe Steam machines can bridge some or all of that.
I understand the frustration PC gamers feel about consoles holding games back technically, but I think they also need to realize that their favorite games would not be able to be made without the millions of dollars made through console versions. I do wish publishers would stop crapping out outsourced PC ports since that benefits no one.
I understand the frustration PC gamers feel about consoles holding games back technically, but I think they also need to realize that their favorite games would not be able to be made without the millions of dollars made through console versions. I do wish publishers would stop crapping out outsourced PC ports since that benefits no one.
It is pretty sweet, thanks. Also seems like you implied that my wife isn't smart and also has bad taste. Feel how you feel about consoles and PCs but don't go down that road. I don't care how annoyed this thread has made you, that shit was uncalled for.
Assassin's Creed Unity is also a terrible argument, since the launch was botched on every single platform, and even after patches the game has terrible performance. Meanwhile the patches actually fixed a lot in the PC port and it's fairly well optimized now.
To be fair, reddit is a pretty terrible place in general. It's like using Gamefaqs trolls to discredit console owners on GAF.
ScatheZombie
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I apologize, I wasn't following the train of thought close enough to realize you were saying it was an exception that the PC version, specifically, was more broken than the console version. In that regard, I will concede it was highly unusual.
I assume you were on about the typical "modern PC games don't require major troubleshooting/don't release completely broken" bullshit that Durante usually spouts.
My bad. Carry on.
Wait, how exactly is Durante wrong?
. I mean, yeah, there's one or two that are that way, but the vast majority of releases works just fine. Can't remember the last time I played a new release that was completely broken or needed major troubleshooting. Hell, the only major troubleshooting I ever remember doing is for 10 year old games.I think I posted it before, but there's a major PC-focused site here called PC Master Race Argentina. Among other stuff, they use Yahtzee's cartoon as the page avatar. They upload "Glorious Gameplay" videos. They have written entire articles about how they would never "get down to a peasant's level." There isn't a single hint of irony to anything they write.
It's genuinely one of the worst things I've ever seen.
Krappadizzle
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This shit still bugs me after all these years. I should at least have basic mouse/left&right click functionality for control of my PC. I use a program now called Controller Companion(and there are many free alternatives) and it works pretty damn well, but it's dumb that a controller that MSFT releases for PC still doesn't have basic functionality for control of the platform it's released for. I wanna say I heard rumblings that the Xbone dongle that'll get released next month is supposed to have a lot more functionality with Win10, supposedly you'll be able to stream audio to the controller which will be a nice feature if true.
vasametropolis
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If I knew I would have done it already... you're implying that since I can't offer a suggestion, an alternative doesn't exist. Not everyone is an innovator of inputs.
Vulcano's assistant
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Not they haven't. It's not even the subreddit for PC gaming, but its second joke of a cousin.
Moon_frogger
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Someone needs to tell this guy they have invented game pads for the PC.
ReBurn
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Something tells me he's not going to be around long enough to hear it anyway.
Apparently he thinks all PC gamers ever think gamepads are shit because he saw one guy on a steam community thread saying so, so that means that all PC gamers are the same or some shit.
I came from a console only background and got into PC gaming about 3 years ago or so. I've never used a KB/M nor had my gaming PC hooked to any display other than my living room TV. It's just a better more versatile console to me and it lives by my TV with the rest of my platforms. It doesn't even really dawn on me until someone points out how dope it is that I have a PC hooked to the TV. A lot of folks don't even know that it's possible.
Krappadizzle
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Lol, I knew it would turn out like this from the first page. First page everyone was dismissive, posting console/pc hugging pics, and calling thread backfire, then someone agreed and people went to their battle stations immediately. Their can never be a consensus on something that really boils down to opinion. People like what they like and it's really a pointless venture to try and convince someone otherwise.
evil solrac v3.0
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read OP, skipped to the last page. madness all around.
Moon_frogger
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It's too bad. I think there is a discussion to be had. The argument for PC gaming is stronger than ever. It's a fantastic platform, literally the best. But it's still ok to prefer consoles and you can't really argue that Nintendo at least has some great exclusives. Vita and play station in general too, of course but not nearly what it once was. I love mobile too but it has kind of sucked up the Japanese game industry.
Elitist1945
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I have a Gaming PC and love being able to play stuff exclusive to the platform (for example, Just Cause 2 MP), the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, and Crysis (yeah its available on consoles, but whatever).
That said, I don't really use my PC much for gaming. I still greatly prefer using my PlayStations.
That said, I don't really use my PC much for gaming. I still greatly prefer using my PlayStations.
freenudemacusers
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iOS gaming master race reporting in for battle.
Angry Puppy
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Yes, PC gaming is better in objective comparisons. Console gamers know that too even if they won't admit it. Preference is something that exists though and people should really just play whatever they want without getting told they are playing the wrong platform. I enjoy my PS4.
This is something that can be measured and in pure numbers about 98-99% of games that have controller support on XO/PS4, will also have it on PC. There are some that don't get it and mostly they are games that were released on PC with a different interface (like Elder Scrolls Online).
In addition to the 98-99% of XO/PS4 multiplatform releases that have controller support on PC, there are hundreds of games from previous generations or newer games that haven't been released on consoles, which have controller support. So in pure numbers the amount of games on PC with joypad support easily dwarfs the number of PS4/XO games with joypad support, even if we were to count the console platforms individually.
And that's without mentioning the Steam Controller..
I don't understand. I've been playing pc games since about 2012 and the only thing i have ever had to do was plug the controller in and the game recognizes it (xbox controllers). The controls are then the same as the console.
Head.spawn
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The kb/m complaints and the no-controller support is so 2005.
Sorry PC gamers, I don't feel like editing an ini file and changing graphic card drivers every time I launch a game. And really, who wants to play Street Fighter on a keyboard! I'd rather sit on my comfy couch and turn on a game on my Sony brand TV with my Sony Playstation, it just works. Sure, you get 60 FPS more often but I don't like it, it makes games look like a soap opera, I actually force my TV into 30hz mode so I don't have to look at that mess. Games are made for the consoles and running at a higher resolution is an insult to the artist's intent. I just want to preserve the artist's vision no matter what.
Making a nonsense reactionary post to a nonsense post is only contributing to the nonsense.
Stop spreading nonsense.
You're late!
Finaika
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Do you play Street Fighter in 30fps?
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