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Penn State football pedophilia thread (UPDATE: NCAA sanctions handed down)
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SerArthurDayne
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kaskade said:
Allegations surfaced in 1998, and Sandusky retired. People suspect Paterno had to know about it from that point on, but I don't believe facts to prove this are know to exist yet. This suspicion is supported by the fact that there was an actual Police investigation, Sandusky apparently admitted he did it, and then no charges were filed for an unknown reason. The fact that he was the next in line to be coach further strengthens this.
In 2002, a coach saw actual rape, reported it to Paterno. Paterno reported it to the AD and a VP of the University. Nothing happened, and Paterno took no further action.
Sandusky was still on campus often throughout this entire period, including allegations that he was at the Football facilities as recently as a week ago.
So, no, Paterno saw nothing. He was told about a rape, reported it to a couple University administrators and took no further action. The facts allow an inference without factual support that he may have known more.
Most people aren't saying he acted criminally, just irresponsibly and immorally, thus justifying his firing.
TheLastCandle
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I live in Central PA, and all I can say is that this is fucking insane.
Dreams-Visions
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.SerArthurDayne said:
kkaabboomm
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i can't believe the kids are "rioting" or whatever it is they are doing.
Big Baybee
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I'm not gonna lie, it's a bit sad to see Joe go out this way, but he did it to himself. This whole situation and the cover ups and everything is so fucked.
Ken Masters
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fucking idiot students at Penn State, hey kids: People covering up a 10 year old kid getting raped is more important then your fucking college football
"Joe Pa" is a piece of shit himself. Someone tells him one of his coaches rapes a kid and he tells the guy above him and washes his hands of all responsibility. Yeah don't tell the cops or anything like that, wouldn't want Penn football being looked at negatively at all
and the grad student who saw the rape should be in prison for life, he does NOTHING to stop it, tells his DAD first, then decides NOT to tell the cops and keeps it in house. Class act you fucking shit
"Joe Pa" is a piece of shit himself. Someone tells him one of his coaches rapes a kid and he tells the guy above him and washes his hands of all responsibility. Yeah don't tell the cops or anything like that, wouldn't want Penn football being looked at negatively at all
and the grad student who saw the rape should be in prison for life, he does NOTHING to stop it, tells his DAD first, then decides NOT to tell the cops and keeps it in house. Class act you fucking shit
TheLastCandle
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Big Baybee said:
Basically how I feel.
It's immensely sad that this was how it ended, but seeing all of this unfold it was obvious this was what needed to happen, and what was going to happen.
Sirpopopop
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Last move to make - Death penalty for the next season.
Only way to rebuild is to let the field lie fallow, and change the headline.
Only way to rebuild is to let the field lie fallow, and change the headline.
SerArthurDayne
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Lonestar said:
I don't believe they were informed. You are correct in that he had some control over the police, but I don't think they were notified.
I think maybe you are conflating this incident in 2002 with the 1998 complaint, which was investigated but where no charges were ultimately filed, leading to Sandusky's retirement.
vas_a_morir
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This shit is so sad. Everything about it.
GoldenEye 007
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Not sure. But yeah, a state university's campus police force are full-blown police officers. Not only that, they are considered state police. They just stay confined to campus usually I'm sure because being on the "turf" of the city/county police outside of campus isn't appreciated in most circumstances.Lonestar said:
Ken Masters
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Death penalty should happen but would never happen
Big Papa Husker
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Wow... I wonder if the Nebraska/Penn St game will happen this weekend... Will Beaver Stadium be standing? lol
talisayNon
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twitter said:
cosigned.
SerArthurDayne
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MIMIC said:
I believe 8 children were in the indictment, as many as 17 or 18 total have come forward now. I am not sure how the process works with the informing parents. Some might have known and become involved in the grand jury investigation. I can't imagine they would just drop the bomb on others (even though names are not included, parents might be able to figure it out based on the facts).
This is further complicated by the timeframe, some of the victims are now adults, so releasing info to the parents may not be allowed without authorization from the adult victims.
edit: one parent knew immediately and brought a complaint in 98 to no avail. Presumptively most of the other parents were unaware for some time, as this is something you generally don't let slide, and also something victims have a hard time telling people about.
wonderkins
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Good riddance.
And fuck commiserating for JoePa and his merry band of enablers. By his own actions he tacitly supported a child molester. Fuck his legacy.
And fuck commiserating for JoePa and his merry band of enablers. By his own actions he tacitly supported a child molester. Fuck his legacy.
There are allegedly over 20 victims that have cone forward. One of the victims mothers confronted Sandusky asking him what happened. His answer was basically "I just want to die and I know you will never forgive me".MIMIC said:
A Penn St police officer was allegedly near enough to hear the conversation, but its unknown what was done about it, seemingly nothing.
Knux-Future
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talisayNon said:
YOU CAN'T BEAT ME MA..IMMA ADULT.
The one Paterno knew about - the kid was never identified because it was never properly reported to police.MIMIC said:
The only reason this investigation started is because a separate incident in '07 which had nothing to do with JoePa.
If you want the full details read the grand jury report. Do it on an empty stomach and during the day though.
ConfusingJazz said:
Thanks for the reply. I can understand the firing and it makes sense to clean house. From what it sounds like, all Paterno had to do was follow up and make sure that business was taken care of and events reached a conclusion. I understand as a coach he most likely had very little involvement in the HR aspect of things, but Sandusky was his coordinator and would be tied to him. I'm surprised he just didn't fire him and move on. Hell in most places you don't even need a reason to fire someone.
I think the safe bet would have been to fire Sandusky and if he turns out innocent face any wrongful termination lawsuit. If he's guilty then children are protected, the program continues on, and the garbage is removed.
GoldenEye 007
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lol CNN? "So do you know when the next Nittany Lion game is going to be??!!?"
Ken Masters
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entrement said:
football>>>kids getting raped
JohnTinker
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There are 45,000 PSU students & 46 full-time police officers in State College.
1 officer per 978 students.
1 officer per 978 students.
SolidSnakex
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MIMIC said:
A rumor came out late last night/early this morning suggesting that Sandusky was running a child sex ring. That's currently being investigated.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Sirpopopop said:
Yeah, because punishing all the kids who are just playing football is the absolute fair thing to do.
My god, really?
Knux-Future
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Ken Masters said:
Penn St Culture
bigtroyjon
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Huh?Lonestar said:
Cops investigated the 98 incident and the DA decided he didn't have enough evidence for whatever reason. The police were not notified about the 02 incident.
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