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[we.are.the.armada]

Okizeme is mixups you run while your opponent is waking up. If you're familiar with SF4 and it's lingo the term Vortex implies the same thing.

An example in this game is Narukami ending his combo with a sweep and then using his D persona attack while you're knockdown. The attack creates an opportunity for him to do whatever he wants while you're trying to get up.

Granted that I only really know SF, the corners in this game look brutal as hell.

 

[Onemic]

I don't know what you mean by "will be", it IS.

I should rephrase that. The online community.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

So has anyone found a spot in nyc that is going to sell the game early?

I'm hitting up VGNY Friday. Thursday would be a far fetch but Friday is plausible.

Initial D in China town, 8bit and up and Next Level all may sell this game early.

Where is ID and 8 Bit?

I thought ID closed and 8bit and nl wont have it early.

NL won't have it early. Their distributors are douche bags.

J&L closed down unless I'm getting the stores mixed up

I swear Jnl is still open. I went passed it for dim sum the other week.

 

[Infinite]

I'm hitting up VGNY Friday. Thursday would be a far fetch but Friday is plausible.

Where is ID and 8 Bit?

NL won't have it early. Their distributors are douche bags.
I swear Jnl is still open. I went passed it for dim sum the other week.

Ok I AM confusing them then, sorry. Initial D used to be in Elizabeth center but it got closed down. 8bit and Up is right on saint marks place.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

Granted that I only really know SF, the corners in this game look brutal as hell.

Coming from sf games, in here blocking high is the new down-back lol. I got hit by so many highs and random unblockable, i had trouble adjusting to some stuff but hit confirming is really important here too.

People air dash so much and some heights are so deceptive that they either do a high or land so quick that they mix up with a low. That chie video shows a lot of hers.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

Ok I AM confusing them then, sorry. Initial D used to be in Elizabeth center but it got closed down. 8bit and Up is right on saint marks place.

Ahh the basement store. I've never seen them carry games early. Ok I know what 8 Bit is now. That's the retro game shop near VGNY.

 

["God's Beard!"]

NA<3T<3

 

[Tomat]

Just payed off my pre-order; all aboard the hype train.

This is probably the first fighting game I'm actively looking forward to since I'm a fan of the series. Gotta go finish up P4 in the meantime.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Granted that I only really know SF, the corners in this game look brutal as hell.

It wouldn't be a stand game if oki wasn't borderline retarded, lol

 

[Infinite]

It wouldn't be a stand game if oki wasn't borderline retarded, lol

lol

I hope it doesn't turn too much people off though.

 

[Onemic]

slightly OT, but what does Catherine have to do with the Tensei series, other than being developed by Atlus? I hear people talk about it like it's part of the series when it doesn't even bear the name.

 

[Infinite]

Ahh the basement store. I've never seen them carry games early. Ok I know what 8 Bit is now. That's the retro game shop near VGNY.

Yeah me neither. They always used to sell games cheaper than usual though, its so sad their gone now.

 

["God's Beard!"]

slightly OT, but what does Catherine have to do with the Tensei series, other than being developed by Atlus? I hear people talk about it like it's part of the series when it doesn't even bear the name.

It's the same universe but that's about it.

 

[Snakeyes]

slightly OT, but what does Catherine have to do with the Tensei series, other than being developed by Atlus? I hear people talk about it like it's part of the series when it doesn't even bear the name.

They have nothing in common besides a Vincent cameo in P3P.

 

[vocab]

slightly OT, but what does Catherine have to do with the Tensei series, other than being developed by Atlus? I hear people talk about it like it's part of the series when it doesn't even bear the name.

Nothing.

 

[Esura]

Catherine would make for a good

Spoiler

Demon/Persona

for a future Persona or SMT game.

 

[Resolution]

Ok I AM confusing them then, sorry. Initial D used to be in Elizabeth center but it got closed down. 8bit and Up is right on saint marks place.

I guess vgny is only bet. I wont go to Jnl since they are assholes.

 

[TheSeks]

I so want to try a hitbox, but I doubt hitbox will send out a custom hitbox to try before you buy. Edited a few buttons in MAME to try on a few fighting games and it feels good but not totally perfect. I gotta get a less cramped keyboard and some space to try it on...

 

[we.are.the.armada]

slightly OT, but what does Catherine have to do with the Tensei series, other than being developed by Atlus? I hear people talk about it like it's part of the series when it doesn't even bear the name.

Motifs in the periphery as far as I can tell.

In Persona 5, Catherine had better

Spoiler

be the model for the succubi

damn it

 

[NichM]

It's the same universe but that's about it.

It's not even the same universe, any more than Breath of Fire is the same universe as Street Fighter because it has a Chun Li cameo.

 

[Infinite]

I guess vgny is only bet. I wont go to Jnl since they are assholes.

Now that you mention it they do charge MORE when they break street dates.

 

[Beckx]

slightly OT, but what does Catherine have to do with the Tensei series, other than being developed by Atlus? I hear people talk about it like it's part of the series when it doesn't even bear the name.

It's the same universe but that's about it.

On a related note, right now I'm playing both Devil Survivor Overclocked and P3P - how does the Devil Survivor series fit into the universe?

 

[Terareflection]

Fighting games, they make my head spin. It's gonna take a while to learn all this stuff.

I think you just simplify the bursts as:

Blue - Defense - get out of combos.

Gold - Offense- anticipating that an opponent is going to press buttons. This would blow though that on block/whiff?

One more - Combos/ Offense - Making punishable moves safe to trick the opponent. Being able to combo into things you normally wouldn't be able to.

 

[darkressurection]

It's not even the same universe, any more than Breath of Fire is the same universe as Street Fighter because it has a Chun Li cameo.

You should talk to someone AtlusJP about doing a Catherine navigator, I would pay a high price.

 

["God's Beard!"]

It's not even the same universe, any more than Breath of Fire is the same universe as Street Fighter because it has a Chun Li cameo.

There's no reason to believe they're not. They're both just versions of the real world.

 

[Resolution]

Now that you mention it they do charge MORE when they break street dates.

Yeah they do which is stupid.

 

[darkressurection]

There's no reason to believe they're not. They're both just versions of the real world.

Nich works at Atlus, he would probably know.

 

[Infinite]

On a related note, right now I'm playing both Devil Survivor Overclocked and P3P - how does the Devil Survivor series fit into the universe?

It doesn't they just share the same enemy designs.

 

[TheSeks]

There's no reason to believe they're not. They're both just versions of the real world.

That's like saying Biohazard and Street Fighter are related because they're both versions of the "real world."

 

[we.are.the.armada]

It's not even the same universe, any more than Breath of Fire is the same universe as Street Fighter because it has a Chun Li cameo.

Well NichM, I hope that sheesh makes a cameo in both P4A and P4G. If not, then we know they are not in the same universe

 

[base shagohod]

NA<3T<3

Ignorant question: is that an infinite?

 

[TheSeks]

Ignorant question: is that an infinite?

I don't think it is. Seta has burst, he could've probably burst as soon as he broke/right-side-up'ed in the air.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Nich works at Atlus, he would probably know.

According to google, he's also a known racist. Clearly his rage at my skin color is influencing his better judgement.

That's like saying Biohazard and Street Fighter are related because they're both versions of the "real world."

When you're right, you're right.

Oh look at that! An SMT character, too!

I don't think it is. Seta has burst, he could've probably burst as soon as he broke/right-side-up'ed in the air.

Yeah, you basically burst that shit or you're fucked.

 

[base shagohod]

I don't think it is. Seta has burst, he could've probably burst as soon as he broke/right-side-up'ed in the air.

Yeah, you basically burst that shit or you're fucked.

Oh ok, gotcha. Thanks

 

[NichM]

Oh look at that! An SMT character, too!

The funny thing is that if that had been a Chris/Ryu/Dante team, you would have had a decent case for an actual SMT character being in the universe.

 

[Beckx]

It doesn't they just share the same enemy designs.

So the Shin Megami Tensei appellation is more of a "brand" (like Final Fantasy)? Sorry for the noob questions. No idea why I never got into this series before now, it's amazing.

 

["God's Beard!"]

The funny thing is that if that had been a Chris/Ryu/Dante team, you would have had a decent case for an actual SMT character being in the universe.

...That is Dante.

 

[NichM]

...That is Dante.

Oh, I thought it was Vergil. The alternate costume made it hard to tell.

 

[TheSeks]

God's Beard trollin' Atlus.

Also I get your point, but no: Catherine isn't related to SMT. It has SMT-like vibes, but isn't in the same "universe" outside of the P3P cameo of Vincent.

 

["God's Beard!"]

BTW, is working at the Atlus USA office fun? My roommate wants to work there after he graduates.

 

[Chavelo]

...That is Dante.

If you want to be technical about it, no. That's Sparda... as a costume for Dante.

He prolly remembers him as this:

 

[SerRodrik]

Okizeme is mixups you run while your opponent is waking up.

And wake up is...getting up after you've been knocked down, right?

If you're familiar with SF4 and it's lingo the term Vortex implies the same thing.

Not even a little.

A bunch of helpful stuff.

Thanks, that's pretty in depth, and I think I understood most of it. You started losing me a little bit in the last paragraph because I have no idea how to tell when an opponent is going to DP, but I suspect that's the kind of thing I'd learn by just playing the game a bunch? I've actually seen some of that video before, but without someone to explain why what I'm seeing is important the way you did, I don't really get anything out of it.

Also I can't pull off jumps and air dashes that quickly or accurately, the timing is all fucked. Is that another case of just practicing a whole bunch?

 

["God's Beard!"]

If you want to be technical about it, no. That's Sparda... as a costume for Dante.

He prolly remembers him as this:

http://hardcoregaming101.net/megaten/smt3-dante.jpg[/IG][/QUOTE]

If you put on a wig and clown shoes, you're still Chavelo.

 

[Onemic]

BTW, is working at the Atlus USA office fun? My roommate wants to work there after he graduates.

I've always wanted to work at a game company, but they seem super exclusive to get into for some reason.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

I've always wanted to work at a game company, but they seem super exclusive to get into for some reason.

Build a portfolio, network, don't be a freak.

Man, I want P4A already. Was watching the some of it on Twitch last night. Looks great.

 

[NichM]

BTW, is working at the Atlus USA office fun?

It has its moments.

 

[Rice-Eater]

So is it only certain characters that specializes in vortex's or does everybody have their own version of a vortex?

 

[Snakeyes]

Thanks, that's pretty in depth, and I think I understood most of it. You started losing me a little bit in the last paragraph because I have no idea how to tell when an opponent is going to DP, but I suspect that's the kind of thing I'd learn by just playing the game a bunch?

You just need to learn to predict your opponent (easier said than done I know). For example, if you notice that he has a tendency to try a DP out of your blockstrings, you can stop in the middle of one of them and block. The opponent's blocked DP leaves him open for a counterattack.

 

[Steaks]

It has its moments.

Reminds me of someone How old is that picture?

 

[SUPARSTARX]

It has its moments.

Unrelated, but the devs need to patch in rematch function in versus mode.

Time drags having to keep going back into character selection after every match set.