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[Shouta]

Ken really doesn't need a mix-up outside of throw or AoA because he can also play the timer scam game. He's extremely good at this because he has Mediarama stuff and super good pressure on the ground.

 

[Rhapsody]

I need to take Ken & Koro into training mode to see their attack gaps. I almost lost to one despite doing my best to block, it is hard to see where the gaps to approach are. I don't know if Koromaru can hit low, but if he can't that would definitely mean I would have to force Ken to risk an AoA.

Maybe I have to backdash farther away to get Ken's spear to whiff. While it honestly feels like an inescapable blockstring, I bet there are a few ways I can get out. I have seriously forgotten how I managed to avoid getting looped.

Some seriously scary stuff where I 2A the dog to knock him out and just miss getting counter-hit by Ken's spear extend. At least he has to respect Minazuki's teleport to some degree.

The gaps vary just because of Koromaru. If you're fighting a bad Ken, there will be lots of them because that's just how the character is if he's not using Koromaru right. Remember to IB to if you want to make it harder onthe player.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9309-shaggy-scooby-vs-ken/

If that helps. I certainly didn't see Ken pull of any overheads outside of jump-ins and AoA.

Learning where gaps in pressure strings are seems to apply to most characters.

Are there even any overheads from him that aren't jump ins or AoA? Usually Ken's mixups consist of empty jump low or roll mixups to be honest. Other than that, he's the type to capitalize on mistakes with midscreen pressure strings.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

The P3 story has been far more enjoyable than the P4 route so far, mainly due to the character moments being stronger and it being great seeing Junpei and Yukari again.

 

[Rhapsody]

The more I play Ken, the more I realize how dumb he is. He has a lot of good tools, haha.

 

[Dlent]

Is there any kind of written guide on the option selects in this game? I know Lord Knight did a video demonstration for them a while back, but it was a couple of hours long and didn't elaborate on the theory behind them as much as I'd like. Didn't see any guides on Dustloop or anything. Thanks in advance.

 

[Shouta]

Lol, what was that ground fire one you did after you charged up. Flux? Is that unblockable?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Lol, what was that ground fire one you did after you charged up. Flux? Is that unblockable?

Ha, wow, I didn't realize I was facing you... again. That explains why it's a Ken that actually knows what they're doing.

Ground fire I did after I charged up... Oh, you must mean with Shadow Yukiko? The one that covers the screen is her SB 214214C+D. You can just roll it if you time it correctly, but I think that one was a counter hit. Dangerous stuff.

And yeah, I had made it unblockable through Fire Break.

 

[Shouta]

gah two dumb mistakes in a row! Bursted without the meter to finish and then got SB Koro instead of fire. >=|

 

[Shouta]

ggs Flux. I really need to learn where I can stick something in Adachi's block strings. Though, I guess that can wait as most are nowhere near as good as yours, lol.

Also, trying to run up and block that lightning is awful in 1 bar connection. Kept getting hit when I attempted it, haha.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

GGs. Screw that dog, heh. Yeah, you were getting hit by that quite a bit, but I also started using his 5D as an effective way to kill off that dog pretty quickly after it's knocked down and it's forced to wake up into it. Spamming it isn't the best move, but definitely something I'll have to keep in mind against future Kens.

 

[Rhapsody]

ggs Flux. I really need to learn where I can stick something in Adachi's block strings. Though, I guess that can wait as most are nowhere near as good as yours, lol.

Also, trying to run up and block that lightning is awful in 1 bar connection. Kept getting hit when I attempted it, haha.

Any normal into sweep can be DPed. A and B gunshots are like -1 on block, so A gunshots are a bit annoying to deal with as Ken.

 

[Shouta]

Ya, You gotta be careful with it in more standard connections because Ken should be able to run up and hit 5B to stop it. That's bad too because 5B should lead to big damage. But the lightning is effective to stop me from heal spamming, lol.

 

[Uraizen]

ggs Flux. I really need to learn where I can stick something in Adachi's block strings. Though, I guess that can wait as most are nowhere near as good as yours, lol.

Also, trying to run up and block that lightning is awful in 1 bar connection. Kept getting hit when I attempted it, haha.

I have yet to get anything over a two bar. I've been playing in 0 to 2. =\

 

[Busaiku]

Your SEN ID is dehlia or something, Shouta?
Something that starts with a d or whatever?

Good stuff earlier.
I kept using Circus Bear to take out Koromaru, of course I managed to hit you maybe once or twice.
Still, you kept using Mediarama way too often.

 

[Jotamide]

So I'll be doing a PS3 Persona 4 Arena Ultimax tournament next Friday through Sunday.
Sign-ups are here. When signing up, include your GAF name and SEN name.
Like so: Busaiku (GAF) / Sarumanu (SEN)
If you want to, include your Twitter/Facebook/whichever mode of communication is best for you. This isn't required, but it'll make things easier.
Format as such: Busaiku (GAF) / Sarumanu (SEN) / @Sarumanu (Twitter)

Just to avoid any confusion, I ask that you keep the formatting, even if your name is the same across all platforms.
So again: GAF name (GAF) / SEN name (SEN) / Any other social media name (any other platform).

Sign-ups will be open until Wednesday (through Tuesday CDT).
This is open to all North American residents.

The format will be best 2 out of 3, double elimination. Winner/Loser Finals will be 3 out of 5. Grand Finals will be 4 out of 7.
All games must be played 2/3, 99 seconds.
Again, registration closes Tuesday, October 14, 2014, at 11:59 PM CDT.
The tournament will officially begin on Friday, October 17, 2014, at 12:00 AM CDT.
Once registration is closed, I will determine how many rounds must be completed each day (on Friday/Saturday/Sunday), and I'll enforce as such.
Since brackets will be finalized on Wednesday, you're free to play your matches prior to Friday, but I won't be penalizing absenteeism until Friday.
Participants (winner or loser) must let me know their results through GAF or PSN.

The prize of this tournament will be the Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth The Wild Cards Premium Edition (shipped through Amazon).

In the unlikely event I win, I'll save my money.

If you have any suggestions/ideas, I'm willing to incorporate them.
Have fun!

I hadn't seen this. Definitely signing up!

 

[Xenoflare]

I have yet to get anything over a two bar. I've been playing in 0 to 2. =\

I got a 3 before and it was great, even if I was getting slaughtered.

 

[Uraizen]

I got a 3 before and it was great, even if I was getting slaughtered.

Tell me more about this legendary 3 bar connection.

 

[Ragingnight]

not entering the tournament I think. I would get bopped since its 2 out of 3 and all I would be doing is gate keeping casuals and mid tier players.

+ I don't think I can hang anymore. I used to atleast win games

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and in some sets go even or positive

from twil, onemic and them but not anymore. And if flux shits on twils and them, then I have no chance rofl.

 

[badgerfan20945]

The more I play this game the less I like it. I played a ton of P4A and really liked it, but this is just.......boring to me. Maybe I should learn a new character or something.

 

[Busaiku]

Good lord, there are so many songs.
Like very time the opponent picks a song, it's something I haven't heard before.

And still I only go Junes.

 

[Shouta]

Your SEN ID is dehlia or something, Shouta?
Something that starts with a d or whatever?

Good stuff earlier.
I kept using Circus Bear to take out Koromaru, of course I managed to hit you maybe once or twice.
Still, you kept using Mediarama way too often.

Also, I played you but it was 0 bar I think, lol. 0 bar causes stuff like bear drill into DP to work, so ass, lol

 

[Lostconfused]

Tell me more about this legendary 3 bar connection.

It's not as good as the god tier 4 bar one.

 

[Busaiku]

It was 2 bar for me.
Bear Screw is -4, so it's easy to get Teddie Decoy on most characters.

 

[TheSeks]

Is Arc/Atlus going to patch in random select sometime down the road? It's kinda crazy that P4U has it but P4U2 doesn't due to the character select screen being completely filled.

It seems like having it be a row above or below the characters a up-down option would work for the screen.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Is Arc/Atlus going to patch in random select sometime down the road? It's kinda crazy that P4U has it but P4U2 doesn't due to the character select screen being completely filled.

It seems like having it be a row above or below the characters a up-down option would work for the screen.

There's a random select button, even if the option isn't on the character screen.

 

[Fauve]

Yeah, I think you have to press either R1 or R2 for random.

 

[Xenoflare]

Whew, managed to get to D-, I stayed F- since day one on the original arena.

But most if not all of my ranked match opponents are spammy. Particularly Adachis with his 5D and 2D spam.

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And no one teched my shuffle time

I feel like they day I see a Mitsuru I will whimper in the corner.

 

[Shouta]

It was 2 bar for me.
Bear Screw is -4, so it's easy to get Teddie Decoy on most characters.

Must've been someone else you played then? The only teddie I played was red to me at the time and I'm sure that was you, lol.

 

[hao chi]

Ha, wow, I didn't realize I was facing you... again. That explains why it's a Ken that actually knows what they're doing.

Ground fire I did after I charged up... Oh, you must mean with Shadow Yukiko? The one that covers the screen is her SB 214214C+D. You can just roll it if you time it correctly, but I think that one was a counter hit. Dangerous stuff.

And yeah, I had made it unblockable through Fire Break.

By that I hope you mean, "Mash roll during the super flash."

 

[FluxWaveZ]

By that I hope you mean, "Mash roll during the super flash."

Does that work? The couple of times I was faced with it, I just rolled when I thought I'd need to and it was simple. Timing doesn't seem too strict to evade that one.

 

[Anne]

I got hands put on me by Akihiko. I know why Souji rates him so high now.

 

[Nyoro SF]

Margaret is an absolute terror in this game. Not hearing much buzz about how ridiculous and safe this character is.

 

[Tizoc]

Well I got my bop bag, might need to take it to a shop or somethin' to fill it up with air.
...and bah god A COLORED MANUAL.

 

[Anne]

Margaret is an absolute terror in this game. Not hearing much buzz about how ridiculous and safe this character is.

The conversations I've had peg her as high-top tier, with top 5 potential. She is ham.

 

[Rhapsody]

Anyone looking to play in around an hour?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Anyone looking to play in around an hour?

Sure, tell me when you're available.

Edit: Surprised LK switched to Margaret. Well, maybe not as much as I could be (presumably top character, range, Empress [heh]...), but still.

 

[That Dude John]

I will be available as well.

 

[Rhapsody]

Sure, tell me when you're available.

Edit: Surprised LK switched to Margaret. Well, maybe not as much as I could be (presumably top character, range, Empress [heh]...), but still.

Cool, I'll be on in several minutes.

I will be available as well.

What's your PSN? It's not on the doc.

Edit: Never mind, I see your PSN in your profile

 

[That Dude John]

man, that super does a lot of damage

 

[Rhapsody]

Can't believe I couldn't punish dropped super

 

[Lostconfused]

I am such a scrub at fighting games.

I can only imagine the reason I play these games is to give people a free win and make em feel better about all of this.

 

[That Dude John]

I am such a scrub at fighting games.

I can only imagine the reason I play these games is to give people a free win and make em feel better about all of this.

 

[Rhapsody]

Weird disconnect. I'm going to head out soon, so I'll just play a few more with Flux.

 

[That Dude John]

coolio, bro

and it was my connection since i got signed out of PSN. Been trying out one of these ethernet adapters that plug into the wall cuz it was annoying my folks to have a long ethernet cord running from one end off the house to the other and it only works half decently tbh. It just drops for seemingly no reason on occasion. Kinda why I don't play P4A or any of my PS3 stuff online as often.

 

[Lostconfused]

A DP clashes with a super? Really? Oh well it's not like I should ever expect to win.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Good games to Rhapsody and That Dude John.

 

[Rhapsody]

GGs, Flux! I got a lot of matchup experience out of that. And I like your Adachi a lot right now, especially.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

GGs, Flux! I got a lot of matchup experience out of that. And I like your Adachi a lot right now, especially.

I like it too, actually. I recently came to learn a really novel thing called footsies instead of incessantly rolling all the time, and that's upped my game significantly. I've stopped jumping as much as I did in the recent past, and I don't DP in desperation as often as I used to. I've started actually blocking more reliably and even instant block fairly often!

 

[Rhapsody]

I like it too, actually. I recently came to learn a really novel thing called footsies instead of incessantly rolling all the time, and that's upped my game significantly. I've stopped jumping as much as I did in the recent past, and I don't DP in desperation as often as I used to. I've started actually blocking more reliably and even instant block fairly often!

Your rolls were on point though and worked every time I got greedy with Margaret, haha. I got to stop autopiloting. But yeah, it was really hard to open you up. And I think the air to ground game of yours with Adachi is trickling over to your other characters, so I have a really hard time dealing with it.

It was nice fighting someone that won't let me get away with Margaret's stuff. I'll have to adjust.

And ggs, That Dude John.

 

[Shouta]

VR Raiden's Ken makes me cry. ;_;