After you cast, you can tell by the second tug whether it's a guardian or not. If either of the guardians is checking your bait, there will be a lot of ripples, and spray coming up off the water every time it ripples. If you don't see the spray, it's a different fish and you can abort so you're not wasting your time - just hit O to pull your bait back before it bites. It won't count that as one of your allotted attempts and it'll save your bait.
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After you cast, you can tell by the second tug whether it's a guardian or not. If either of the guardians is checking your bait, there will be a lot of ripples, and spray coming up off the water every time it ripples. If you don't see the spray, it's a different fish and you can abort so you're not wasting your time - just hit O to pull your bait back before it bites. It won't count that as one of your allotted attempts and it'll save your bait.
meltingparappa
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Unless it's too spoilerific for this thread, can you go into this a little? I haven't quite made it to the new epilogue on my play-through but I'm pretty curious.
It's fascinating for this to be the case with Kobayashi being responsible for both, as you mentioned.
Edit: I hope the inconsistency you mentioned can be explained by one of the bad endings in P4A being canon, specifically the one where
Yukiko kills everyone with her cooking
I'm not sure what he's referring to, but for me:
It's interesting that everyone still looks the same in Arena given the epilogue shows them looking pretty different (Chie growing her hair out, Yosuke cutting his hair, etc)
meltingparappa
Member
Interesting fact about the epilogue time-frame:
Originally, when I played through it, I told everyone it took place in July. I was wrong. It goes past July. BUT, it stays in 2012. Namatame refers to the murders as happening 'last year', so whilst it's August at the earliest, we can definitely say that only a few months have passed.
For reference, Arena takes place in May.
Aren't they referring to Arena when they talk about
"all that craziness when you visited in May"
buddha0991
Member
Dude, you really want Arena to not be canon.
meltingparappa
Member
Hopefully by that he just meant Persona 5 and there's a Risette poster in the background to imply it's in the same universe.
GUUH at those timelines though. Do you think it's purposefully ambiguous?
Also I know that P4A came out first, but is it possible that Arena's only referenced offhandedly as
"last may"
Absolutely, but my points still hold weight.
I do think it's deliberately ambiguous. Kind of a "Some time later" kinda thing.
And maybe they just wanted to keep the spinoffs seperate? Hashino had no part in Arena, so maybe he just didn't want to be tied down by its cliffhangers, and said they could only have a sly nod towards it.
buddha0991
Member
Well sir, I may not agree with your opinion, I shall defend to the death your right to say it. Really thought, as much as I DO want to have those old p2/3/4 references in p5, it really only matters if P5 actually follows this up. If P5 is its own thing, none of it really matters hah.
CielTynave
Member
Well, Golden actually came out a month before Arena on consoles in Japan, which had the fleshed out story that the arcade version didn't, so I'd assume it was just because they didn't want to spoil the story of a game that hadn't come out yet.
Original Man
Member
lmfao. just finished
hilarious stuff
trying to get phone numbers after getting the scooter
hilarious stuff
Someone wasn't paying attention during the school trip.
I remember that! That's where I heard her name. The details I'm lost on, I must admit. I was, uh, skimming. Yeah, let's go with that.
meltingparappa
Member
I like that they couldn't care less about that exposition in the anime adaptation.Someone wasn't paying attention during the school trip.
Then again, in the tv broadcast of the anime (I guess there's a bonus episode on the dvd/bd) the payoff never came up. TOUCHE.
buddha0991
Member
Husband and wife, gods that created Japan. Izanami dies and goes to Yomi. Izanagi goes to rescue his wife, only to find that she is now decomposed and a rotting devil basically. They fight in Yomotsu Hirasaka where Izanami declares that if he left her she would kill 1000 people, to which Izanagi replied that he would then give life to 1500 people in return.
No more class. I'm on winter vacation until January!!
How so? It seemed out of left field to me.
I have no life. :|
That and I have the luxury of being able to play at work. I'm alone, no supervisors, but it's the weekend.
buddha0991
Member
No more class. I'm on winter vacation until January!!
How so? It seemed out of left field to me.
Izanami IS the Megami Tensei. She is the one the series is named after. Shin Megami Tensei means True Ressurection of the Goddess. Megami Tensei was about Loki tryin to do some evil things and Izanami ressurects and stuff. and things.
Not at all to knock it, but to me, it seems like they went, "Hey man, it's MegaTen!
Of course a demon is behind everything!
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Watching the anime. =3
Ep 9 - Rise-chan!
Ep 9 - Rise-chan!
buddha0991
Member
Also, if you notice, most Megaten games involve a woman as an important character/plotpoint. That would be that games "goddess." It just so happens that this game's "goddess" is the one who started it all.
buddha0991
Member
Indeed, now fix your quote pls
For what it's worth, the original Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei book is a bit different from the game, and both are even more different from Persona 4 despite using the same mythos. Akemi Nakajima was quite the jerk in the original novel. >_>;
buddha0991
Member
A hilarious jerk. If you have seen the OVA, the games were based off of that, not the novel, but hes still a jerk there. Strange how this great series got its start from a novel/ova about loki goo rape and the greatest synth music of all time.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
omg Rise's seiryuu is Taiga! =3!!!
I just realized that a few days ago too. I was pleasantly surprised.
Yup. She resembles her actress too.
toastyToast
Member
Any recommendation for a beast-mode physical persona after Rakshasa? I've gotten a lot of skill up cards so his stable of moves is a lot better than Kanji and Chie's
Also in need of a wind/healer persona if anyone has a clue on one around level 50
I ask too many questions in this thread...
Also in need of a wind/healer persona if anyone has a clue on one around level 50
I ask too many questions in this thread...
I remember using Hanuman for a long time on one playthrough.
Clotho + Hokuto Seikun = Kikuri-Hime
I think Kikuri-Hime can inherit Wind, and Clotho is a pretty good Wind persona (Wind Boost, Garudyne, Magarula).
WrenchNinja
Member
To add to this
Izanagi runs away from her and locks her in the cave. In Persona 4, the myth serves as a metaphor for the refusal to acknowledge complete truth. Izanagi refused to accept his wife's new form, and blocked himself off from seeing it. In turn Izanami was left stuck in the darkness, eventually assuming that the "truth" of the matter was that people suck and are jerks and were all shadows at heart. Two halves of creation refuse to acknowledge each other, acting as an Original Sin of sorts for the game to build upon.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Chie's Game of Death/Kill Bill costume is awesome. And I got it on the last day possible!
Wow, that's deep. I never thought of it that way.
Yeah, people drastically exaggerate how dark P2 is. Some bits are really silly, even.
The Philemon thing isn't a bombshell, assuming it means what I think it means
Great game. Not so great gameplay. Hopefully P3P will impress you more.
I was quite surprised by the twist. Maybe not a bombshell, but certainly surprising (for me anyway). Persona 2 had a lot of silly scenes, which I all loved. I simply wish the game allowed me to scroll through the text. I hit the X button way too quickly at times and skipped dialogue.
I'll certainly like P3P more, I loved Persona 3 when it first came out (and I HATED the tired system which I hear is mostly fixed up in this version). It'll be nice to make a return to the game that made me love the franchise.
Is there any sort of rhyme or reason to the days the Fox is happy? I only have the kung fu one from it. Those are the only costumes I am missing.
SerArthurDayne
Member
I used this list.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/vita/641695-persona-4-golden/wiki/3-1-costume-guide-
Some people have said they can't get the track suit. I got it last, but it was on one of the days on the list as a "happy" day. Not sure if it has to be
3/20
That's when I got it too.