That's crazy! My name is Dantis too! :O
Wipeout is good. Disgaea is alright if you can look over the horrible art style.
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That's crazy! My name is Dantis too! :O
Wipeout is good. Disgaea is alright if you can look over the horrible art style.
Retail, I'd tip my bonnet to Uncharted, LBP and Ragnarok. Digital, Dokuro is a good investment.
buddha0991
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Just got the Game of Death tracksuit for Chie, by going in the TV on the thundering day on 9/2
It's based on specific days, but it's any of those specific days. For the track suit I think you have to have Chie's kung fu costume and Kanji's duster though
MK vita is good stuff. DJ Max Technika Tune's pretty fun for a rhythm game too
You hated everything new about Golden besides the epilogue! HOW COULD I TAKE YOUR CLAIM OF MARIE'S DUNGEON BEING SHIT SERIOUSLY?!
browsing through the anime of the year thread and someone posted this gif
My interest in the anime has grown...just a bit
One of my favorite scenes from P4 Animation. This show is comedy gold, which is one reason why it made my AGOTY list.
WrenchNinja
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Lots of choices, Ill have to look up more info for the games. Will probably pick up lbp.
buddha0991
Member
I didnt mind the kings game scene in the anime in the context that it was in a fanservice anime. If it went down like that in the game, I would have thought it was dumb.
harriet the spy
Member
Finally getting into some of the higher level persona. The 'transfer your skills at will' + magician card takes out a bit of the fun of getting the top tier persona, since many of their skills I can easily get by fusion->transfer, so the excitement of getting some higher tier skills is a bit diminished. Mind charge+ megidolaon? You mean, the skills I have had since the steamy bath house? (thanks to a botched fusion, but anyways)
Troll mode (but I sincerely believe so): after extensive youtube comparisons... New Chie >>> Old Chie.
Troll mode (but I sincerely believe so): after extensive youtube comparisons... New Chie >>> Old Chie.
I just got to the second hot spring scene. My mind wasn't prepared for such filth. I thought Dantis was exaggeration about that scene....I was mistaken.
It works in the anime because of the lighter and goofier tone in the show. The game lacks that same tone, so when something like pure fanservice happens, it feels out of place.
It works in the anime because of the lighter and goofier tone in the show. The game lacks that same tone, so when something like pure fanservice happens, it feels out of place.
It was dumb in the game too. The only characters who weren't out of character were Teddie, Yosuke and Naoto.
I love how it serves no purpose whatsoever. It's not even an amusing event, it's literally just for the pervier side of the fanbase.
As an aside, I didn't hate all of the new content in Golden. I liked the first bike scene, January and the epilogue. Most of the new stuff was just nothing to me. Just there.
There are only a handful of things I actively dislike.
If that bath scene had a point, I may have not hated it as much, but it is just there to scream at me, "EVERYONE WHO ENJOYS PERSONA 4 SURELY LOVES (BARELY) NAKED HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS! HR HR HR HR!"
Also, fuck that boss fight. Everything about
Marie's
I am excited to see the epilogue, only one more dungeon!
My mind is falling apart from putting in near 60 hours within a week span.
You got the bad ending.
...oh. Nice.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
So I have been spending a lot of time at the
Also are there certain dates in the game I should keep saves in order to go back to that have a big impact on the ending?
hospital with Sayoko cause I just can't help myself. If I pursue that social link for to long it won't have a negative impact on my Yukiko S.Link will it?
Also are there certain dates in the game I should keep saves in order to go back to that have a big impact on the ending?
WrenchNinja
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BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Hehe thanks guys. I appreciate the date as well I'll keep a save there.
Also I love Kanji. He is so well written, dude cracks me up constantly.
Also I love Kanji. He is so well written, dude cracks me up constantly.
There's a lot of stuff that 'serves no purpose', but in reality it's mostly group bonding stuff meant to endear the rest of the cast together and make it so it seems like the cast has some good chemistry. The King's Game is also supposed to serve to let Naoto get to know the group a little better, and to contrast his attitude about the case against everybody's 'WOOHOO WE'RE DONE' attitude at the time (even if the player knows, because the game is continuing, that they're not)
Personally the scene would have been improved if they had just gotten wasted and weren't 'drunk off the atmosphere', but they're 15 or 16 or whatever so that sucks I guess?
I think you're a little harsh on the King's Game event, Dantis. You say the scene serves no purpose, but it very much does.
This is at a point where the current investigation team had gone through a lot and achieved the ultimate level of comfort between friends; they're essentially family. It's on display and Nao sits outside of it. Up until that point you get hints or the impression (or at least the team does) that she's just stuck up and full of herself, but the King's Game shines a light on how very socially awkward and misplaced she really is.
The scene is brilliant. It's one of my favorites in the game.
This is at a point where the current investigation team had gone through a lot and achieved the ultimate level of comfort between friends; they're essentially family. It's on display and Nao sits outside of it. Up until that point you get hints or the impression (or at least the team does) that she's just stuck up and full of herself, but the King's Game shines a light on how very socially awkward and misplaced she really is.
The scene is brilliant. It's one of my favorites in the game.
I thought for the longest time that Persona was a very clumsy, obvious game, especially in relation to character's internal problems and their shadows, but it took me a while to realise that for a lot of characters the Shadows are only the beginning of them learning to accept themselves for who they are. In the same vein, a lot of the 'cheese' events that serve no purpose aren't just pure fanservice, but are part of the bonding process between party members, paced to either cause a lull in tension before some major event or to chill out after a rescue. Unfortunately, some of the Golden Content is badly placed for this purpose, probably most notably the band event, and some of it goes overboard, the second bathhouse scene in particular.
I agree. I think there's definitely fan service in the game, but there's mostly just character building. Games rarely, rarely spend this much time developing their characters, having them get to know each other and in turn allowing the player to do the same.
And I love those "no pressure" lulls. You need those. The number one reason I love the game's tone so much is because by creating the highest of highs, the lows are that much lower. The darker scenes in P4 I don't think would be as palpable in a game that was always and consistently dreary. It establishes a comfort zone for the player. Every time I was pulled out of that, I felt it.
And I love those "no pressure" lulls. You need those. The number one reason I love the game's tone so much is because by creating the highest of highs, the lows are that much lower. The darker scenes in P4 I don't think would be as palpable in a game that was always and consistently dreary. It establishes a comfort zone for the player. Every time I was pulled out of that, I felt it.
I don't agree with any of that, but to each his own, I suppose.
Perfect Cha0s
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One of the things I was actually talking with a friend about the other day was how fan service-y the game feels; Golden more so, but the original as well. It's odd, because you typically expect fan service to be found in spin-offs or other derivative works, whereas Persona 4 packs that feeling into the original product itself.
The game, simply by virtue of its length, manages to develop not only the main cast as a group, but also each member and their relationship with the protagonist. We both sort of agreed that it's unfair to label what P4 does as fan-service, and that it only feels that way because it develops the cast of characters far more than most, if not all, other games out today. P4 gets its fan-service feel by nature of not falling in line with the status quo. It's rare in videos games that you feel like all of the characters you interact with have a personality and story that extends beyond the core plot of the game.
In tying up those loose ends (Compendium, skill cards, etc), I have found myself severely over-levelled.
Enough is enough, especially as my team of Persona to take on the Pokemon League final boss are verging on the ridiculous. Pretty much decked them out for a NG+, so there is:
I have a wealth of skill cards, so I may just mess around with them a little more.
Enough is enough, especially as my team of Persona to take on the
- A physical
- An elemental (this one is a spoiler)
- A healer
- And the light/dark caster
I have a wealth of skill cards, so I may just mess around with them a little more.
I think you and your friend nailed it, yeah. It's very foreign to video games, the care Atlus has taken in these characters; the detail that's gone into them. I think it's easy to immediately judge a lot of it as fan-service, because as an audience, that's what we're so typically served. So much so, we've grown to expect it.
It feels fanservice-y because those events there to let you know that, somewhere behind the endless, cynical number-punching of social links there's still a group and within that group are people who are supposed to be friends with each other.
But as with a lot of things in the game, it feels overdone at times; those scenes aren't there for development, they exist as confirmations of whatever prior dynamics they achieved before.
It's why the best scenes are still those where they're just at school, or eating ramen, or even the incidental banter when you meet them in dungeons or near school.
mah gawd
I think having both debilitate and heat riser on a single persona is a waste, though, but otherwise, gg. And for your hamamudo spammer you should consider leveling up an Alice for Die for Me.
But as with a lot of things in the game, it feels overdone at times; those scenes aren't there for development, they exist as confirmations of whatever prior dynamics they achieved before.
It's why the best scenes are still those where they're just at school, or eating ramen, or even the incidental banter when you meet them in dungeons or near school.
mah gawd
I think having both debilitate and heat riser on a single persona is a waste, though, but otherwise, gg. And for your hamamudo spammer you should consider leveling up an Alice for Die for Me.
I DID IT! It only took me a week to complete Persona 4 Golden. I logged in 61 hours. I loved the epilogue, it make the game feel more complete than the original version. It was easily my favorite addition.
It feels a little weird that I completed Persona 4 Golden on my final break before I finish school. When the original came out, it was my very first winter break for my undergraduate. This was a good way to close out my last undergraduate winter break.
But the bathscene did serve NO purpose. No character development or plot development. It came out of nowhere. It literally served no purpose rather than pandering to a certain crowd. And hell, I love fanservice, and I was disgusted by it.
It feels a little weird that I completed Persona 4 Golden on my final break before I finish school. When the original came out, it was my very first winter break for my undergraduate. This was a good way to close out my last undergraduate winter break.
But the bathscene did serve NO purpose. No character development or plot development. It came out of nowhere. It literally served no purpose rather than pandering to a certain crowd. And hell, I love fanservice, and I was disgusted by it.
I'm only at Secret Base and sitting at 55 hours. ._. I blame V. Hard.
Congrats though!
The second one, absolutely agreed. It was a clumsy hamfisted attempt to get Marie even more 'in' with the group (in addition to the already clumsy, hamfisted attempts that was her entire s.link... even if some of it did kind of work... sub-buttle as it was not), but even that could have worked if they hadn't set it in a fucking bathhouse.
Fuck they should've just taken her skiing.
I had those on multiple Persona but I just wanted to consolidate my Persona slots for NG+. I rarely use heat riser anyway, it's just that I can't stand to throw away some of the 'best' skills. Izanagi actually has it as a card so there is always that fallback if I wish to revisit it.
Having the ultimate light/dark spells is a bit overblown, in my opinion. They are never really needed and the boosts mean the current spells hit about 95% of the time.
I go through JRPGs in a very quick manner.
Yeah, I'm referring to the second bath house scene, I was fine with the original one.
When everyone was saying goodbye to the MC, Naoto said someone was missing and I had no idea who she was referring to until Marie's name popped up.
True ending spoilers:
Oh yeah, Kanji, man. His new looks, I will never adjust to his new look.
Yeah, but so is hitting lvl99.All about min-maxing to the utmost.
That was just a nice pay-off after finishing the compendium, well as much as I can do in this playthrough (97%).
I might just go and destroy the Reaper now, but that just seems mean!
I did like collecting certain sets of skills together too. Much of my compendium is filled out this way, with certain Persona registered specifically for fusing, should I ever want to pass on a whole set.
Up-fusing through a specific arcana always make any Persona ridiculously versatile!
Every time I fuse a persona with a null X skill to make one that has it natively so I shouldn't pass it on, I die a little inside.
Actually, I was saying that the second bath house scene served no purpose. Not the King's Game.
Let's not give it too much credit though, the King's Game doesn't build anything. It's nonsensical and dumb, with characters acting completely opposed to themselves. I suppose the purpose it serves is to give context for Naoto to join the group. I think I wouldn't have minded as much if they were drinking alcohol. As it is, they weren't, so it was just weird.
EDIT: I quoted the wrong post. I can't be bothered to fix it. It's still directed at you.
Actually, I was saying that the second bath house scene served no purpose. Not the King's Game.
Let's not give it too much credit though, the King's Game doesn't build anything. It's nonsensical and dumb, with characters acting completely opposed to themselves. I suppose the purpose it serves is to give context for Naoto to join the group. I think I wouldn't have minded as much if they were drinking alcohol. As it is, they weren't, so it was just weird.
EDIT: I quoted the wrong post. I can't be bothered to fix it. It's still directed at you.
No worries! Also: I disagree entirely
They act pretty much exactly how I would expect them to act
On a side note, I read somewhere that Risette having her secret show cancelled a year or two back matches up with some blackout event in Persona 3, dat true?
if they actually were drunk, which they weren't... I just assume they got Risette the good stuff they hid away in the back
On a side note, I read somewhere that Risette having her secret show cancelled a year or two back matches up with some blackout event in Persona 3, dat true?
It is the full moon event from P3 she references, yes.
The one where you fight the shadow underneath the club, which causes the power to cut out. It's the same night she performs the concert.
Actually, I was saying that the second bath house scene served no purpose. Not the King's Game.
Let's not give it too much credit though, the King's Game doesn't build anything. It's nonsensical and dumb, with characters acting completely opposed to themselves. I suppose the purpose it serves is to give context for Naoto to join the group. I think I wouldn't have minded as much if they were drinking alcohol. As it is, they weren't, so it was just weird.
EDIT: I quoted the wrong post. I can't be bothered to fix it. It's still directed at you.
I blame the placebo effect on why some of the characters acted drunk. Though, it would have been better if alcohol was involved.
Splash Wave
Member
It's August and I haven't fished yet. Is that okay?
I've beaten the game three times between the two releases and I've never fished.
No worries! Also: I disagree entirely
THEN I SHALL FLY OVER TO AMERICA AND FIGHT YOU.
But seriously, you don't think it would be better if they were drunk? It breaks the context for me. Why would they act like that otherwise?
I guess. Doesn't really justify it though.
I fished once on my playthrough of vanilla P4, and that's it. It's a waste of time, really.