Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Jintor, I thought you're playing P3P?
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Persona 4 Golden |OT| Love is the only gold.
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I'd usually just keep going until I hit the "wall"--the floor above the last boss of that section of Tartarus. (Can't remember now how many floors that was...)
In between there's also the mid-boss of course. So after I beat them I just take the elevator, heal at the clock, then go back up and keep going.
My goal was to only go to Tartarus only if I had to and otherwise just spend the evening on an S. Link or doing an activity to boost stats.
I'd also return on nights if I had to find a quest item. You're nicely leveled at that point (if you've reached and beaten the boss) so the battles at the lower floors are easier and won't drain your SP that much.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Man, the atmosphere in P3 is so superior than P4 its not even funny.
I also find it so incredibly unfair that the final fate for P3's MC is left hanging like that while P4's is all fine and dandy :\
Damn it.
I also find it so incredibly unfair that the final fate for P3's MC is left hanging like that while P4's is all fine and dandy :\
Damn it.
I'm playing FES now. I got to about August in P3P and wasn't feeling it... if I had to explain it, it felt like watching P4 The Animation before playing P4.
Re: atmosphere, I think that's wrong - P4's atmosphere is entirely different and I like it a lot more. Mainly the thing is I don't feel the 'friendship group' thing as heavily in P3, they feel more like... workmates than anything else. The general vibe of the town is nice though.
Yup, good strategy. I only explore the whole floor if I'm looking for shadows that carry quest items.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Sorry but can't resist saying this: told you so
As for atmosphere, we'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. P3's atmosphere is pitch perfect for me; casual yet foreboding, relaxing at some point but oppressive in another; it really delivers the "end of the world" vibe much better and much stronger than P4.
And I hate to say this word, but it also gives off a much more "mature" feeling. The character's conflict in P4 is kind of laughable for me; I mean, the central problems that the main characters are having when they are facing their true self--compared what the characters in P3 are facing, they seem like child play. "Facing/Conquering your true self" is, ironically, much more poignant in P3 than it is in P4. The relationship between Yukari and Mitsuru, Mitsuru and Akihiko, Akihiko and Shinjiro and Ken, Junpei with the MC, Junpei with his love interest, Yukari and the MC... all of them touched me a lot more deeply than anything in P4.
I haven't finished FES yet, so I can't really say, but so far (November 6) it's not hitting the highs of P4.
Actually, I kind of feel that's almost surface-level thinking. P3's dilemmas so far seem more mature than P4's, but the way they're handled feels just as, if not moreso, clumsy as in P4. And I always thought the hyper-exaggerated 'true selves' of P4 was actually part of the statement in itself; a person's own personal problems are always most important and huge to them themselves. In essence, it doesn't matter that their problems are minor to outside onlookers; to themselves, every person has their own huge, looming problems. Obviously it's exaggerated by the Shadow World, but...
I dunno. P3 feels less personal to me.
You're right in that what they are is 'deeper' and 'more mature', I suppose, than P4's largely positive relationships, but it feels like surface-level appeal - it just sounds more mature, but it's not actually explored in a satisfactory way. It's like in the way a story about death is supposedly more mature than a story about high-school hijinks - it starts from a better position but that doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of delivery.
Actually, I kind of feel that's almost surface-level thinking. P3's dilemmas so far seem more mature than P4's, but the way they're handled feels just as, if not moreso, clumsy as in P4. And I always thought the hyper-exaggerated 'true selves' of P4 was actually part of the statement in itself; a person's own personal problems are always most important and huge to them themselves. In essence, it doesn't matter that their problems are minor to outside onlookers; to themselves, every person has their own huge, looming problems. Obviously it's exaggerated by the Shadow World, but...
I dunno. P3 feels less personal to me.
You're right in that what they are is 'deeper' and 'more mature', I suppose, than P4's largely positive relationships, but it feels like surface-level appeal - it just sounds more mature, but it's not actually explored in a satisfactory way. It's like in the way a story about death is supposedly more mature than a story about high-school hijinks - it starts from a better position but that doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of delivery.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Heh, we'll just have to agree to disagree I guess.
Not saying P3 is a better game, mind you, because mechanically P4 is definitely superior in almost every way. I just feel more connected to the story/characters of P3 than I was with P4; especially with the Answer.
My ideal game is P3 with P4 mechanics; that would be awesome.
Not saying P3 is a better game, mind you, because mechanically P4 is definitely superior in almost every way. I just feel more connected to the story/characters of P3 than I was with P4; especially with the Answer.
My ideal game is P3 with P4 mechanics; that would be awesome.
When it comes to anime (which I don't like) and Soejima (who I do like), yes.
And I can't tell what that is a picture of.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Me and you should be friends
P4 is the better game, but I liked the setting and atmosphere to P3 more due to how grim things get. I don't think P4 quite puts the characters through the motions as P3 does, which I really liked.
also more non-soejima styled arts to make Dantis cry
I am Thou
Thou are Thee
Literally
also more non-soejima styled arts to make Dantis cry
I am Thou
Thou are Thee
Literally
WrenchNinja
Member
P3 feels like its trying too hard to be grim and mature in the face of all the goofball shenaningans that happen prior to when the plot actually has some forward momentum. Maybe the same argument can be made for P4 trying too hard to be upbeat in the face of the murder mystery backdrop, but yknow, the pacing is a lot better.
Maybe I just like the small sleepy town setting more than the big city since Im already from the big city.
Maybe I just like the small sleepy town setting more than the big city since Im already from the big city.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
I just finally finished Persona 4 (On my perfect game that has been sitting at the Final Boss for 2 years) I'm going to start Golden now.
Is Persona 4 Arena canon? I haven't played it yet.
Without spoiling too much does Golden expand the true ending of Persona 4?
Is Persona 4 Arena canon? I haven't played it yet.
Without spoiling too much does Golden expand the true ending of Persona 4?
I saw a picture online when Golden first came out in Japan that showed the picture at the end of the game with an older investigation team.
Much to someone's chagrin, yes, it's canon.
P4G has an epilogue not found in P4. Saying anything more has a high risk of being a spoiler.
Yes, assuming that doesn't burn you out on Persona 3.
Arguably.
It probably doesn't matter honestly, though, as it doesn't have any influence over the other games as of yet and the story has about as much plot as one of the drama CDs.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Cool! Thanks. and thanks for the other answers, didn't see the edit until now.
I guess I'll play P4G while trying to keep Izanagi on my team the whole time and buffing him through the game.
When I went back to my P4 game after those 2 years I was like how the fuck do I get to the final dungeon again? Man I had everything done with that 1st playthrough. All the best equipment including the MC's best sword and several pieces of the best armors in the game, all the Social Links done in a 1st playthrough, Persona with All Resists, and Persona with all 4 elemental high level target all skills.
The last boss was pitifully easy. It was kind of weird that
Izanami felt happy for you (Humanity) at the end after trying to fuck you over
That ending *Tear*
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Question about January:
For the last few days, party members have approached me and if I spend time with them, their Persona is reborn again. Can I do this with all of them, or do I have to choose favourites? The characters ghat have approached me but I didn't spend time with haven't approached me again.
You don't have to wait for them to approach you. Just seek them out yourself. You should be able to get all of the ultimate Personas.
9 floors.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
buddha0991
Member
Nope. Definitely.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Holy shit. I had written Chie off as being the worst party member due to crappy abilities, but her
is one of the best abilities in the game.
Ultimate Persona Social Link Skill (Dragon Hustle)
Increases all party member's Attack, Defense, and Hit/Evasion? Hell yes; Chie just suddenly became an amazing support character!
buddha0991
Member
Its great if you can deal with the 150 sp cost.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Chie, you're worthless!
Haha, ah well, it's good for boss fights. Besides, it's not like she has anything else decent to spend SP on.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
It's really easy to break the game with the right builds.
This is the Persona my MC has been using for most of the game:
Decarabia
Current level: 90
Current stats:
Strength - 89
Magic - 99
Endurance - 60
Agility - 61
Luck - 60
Abilities:
Maragidyne (heavy fire damage to all foes)
Megidoloan (severe almighty damage to all foes)
Mabufula (medium ice damage to all foes)
Repel Physical
Null Fire
Evade Ice (triples evasion to ice magic)
Fire Amp (strengthens fire damage by 50%)
Victory Cry (recovers all HP and SP after battle)
Affinities (factoring in skills):
Physical: Repel
Fire: Null
Ice: Normal (but triple evasion rate)
Electric: Null
Wind: Strong
Light: Null
Dark: Normal
Everything is pretty much a cakewalk (I even beat the Reaper with no trouble), as I do crazy damage with fire and almighty magic, I can spam everything thanks to Victory Cry, and next to nothing can even damage me at all.
I also just fused a Yoshitsune with Debilitate that I'm also going to turn into another monster. That thing also breaks the game with the right skills.
Yeah, Yoshitsune really does. I don't think I've actually ever used him in a serious battle yet.
buddha0991
Member
Welcome to the polar opposite of P4. Do you see why sometimes those two fanbases clash?
This is the boss song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmqbhyS-BK8
Some people think the first words are:
This is the boss, you shall now die
OR
We'll sacrifice the son of Heaven
how the fuck do they manage that with each character having their own goddamn storyline
Ran into a wall in FES, Stasis giant that deal around 150-200 damage (most of my characters are 300hp) or, if you're unlucky, will use a multi-hit attack that deals 150 damage with each hit. Oh and they resist almost everything except electricity and have like 1500 hp
What's the fucking use of having a dedicated scanning member if you can't goddamn tell me what weaknesses a sub-boss has? Your goddamn persona evolved and everything but you're still USELESS FUUKA GOD DAMN
For the most part, the stories are all the same (Bar Labrys and Elizabeth). If you're expecting a Blazblue style interconnecting thingamabob, don't.
I've disagreed. But like I say, it really doesn't matter. For now, Arena is unconnected with the other games (Notably, P4G). If it affects P5, that will be significant, but we have a while to go until we find out.
They don't resist ice either.
You're gonna love it when they come back as regular enemies a few floors later btw.
buddha0991
Member
sadly
They don't resist ice either.
You're gonna love it when they come back as regular enemies a few floors later btw.
Yeah, unfortunately, because FES's fusing help is complete bollocks I appear to have accidentally made a party completely of Zio/Agidyne/Garu users. One guy on Bufula but it's shithouse. Gonna go grind me a Chernobog to make a slash immune Thor.
I really like the multiple types of phys damage in P3 though, I like it better than the straight up 'phys' class in P4
MiniBossBattle
Member
I am right at
. I'm not ready for this journey to end....
Adachi's level
P4G Epilogue Spoilers
Yosuke does mention the events of Persona 4 Arena in a single, vague line of dialogue in Persona 4 Golden.
But yeah, nothing else has acknowledged P4A, which is normal because there's basically been nothing else. Atlus did write the story and they did state that it was cannon, so I guess we'll see.
After this, you've still got at least ten or so hours to go.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I'm currently on January 20th. Do I even have enough time to start a new Social Link, or shall I just spend that time doing other things?
There's no reason for them to clash. Strange Journey's soundtrack was amazing and nothing like Persona's.