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SecretBonusPoint
Banned
In the December Dungeon now, confusing madness! As expected, after the slow game warm-up, its back to being digital crack for me. S-Links, fusion, grinding, Quests. God damn, this is the definitive jRPG for me now.
One thing has become apparent though after Persona 3 and FES slipped into my music playlist this past week, is that Persona 4's soundtrack doesn't hold a candle to it, which is disappointing. The music is all a bit too boring and over-used. Especially the "panic" bgm.
The actual dungeon music is obviously far better due to it not being Tartarus.03, .04, etc, but everything else seems lacking. The battle themes in P3 kicked so much ass, FES remixes especially (i'm a freelancer, do for benjamins but I'm not a gangsta), I wish long RPG games would give you a choice of some bgm's you know youre gonna be hearing for a while/over and over.
One thing has become apparent though after Persona 3 and FES slipped into my music playlist this past week, is that Persona 4's soundtrack doesn't hold a candle to it, which is disappointing. The music is all a bit too boring and over-used. Especially the "panic" bgm.
The actual dungeon music is obviously far better due to it not being Tartarus.03, .04, etc, but everything else seems lacking. The battle themes in P3 kicked so much ass, FES remixes especially (i'm a freelancer, do for benjamins but I'm not a gangsta), I wish long RPG games would give you a choice of some bgm's you know youre gonna be hearing for a while/over and over.
Hmm... Guess it's to your taste, but I thought P4's music was waaay better. It's good music on the level of, well, non-game music.
Pursuing My True Self > Kimi no Kioku
the garage rock battle theme > Mass Destruction
I'll Face Myself > whatever somber music was in P3
Heartbeat, Heartbreak > Changing Seasons (whatever the French language track was in P3)
P3 doesn't have equivalents to "The Almighty," or "Mist" which are basically the best boss themes in video game history. Also, P3 has Lotus Juice. blecch
Pursuing My True Self > Kimi no Kioku
the garage rock battle theme > Mass Destruction
I'll Face Myself > whatever somber music was in P3
Heartbeat, Heartbreak > Changing Seasons (whatever the French language track was in P3)
P3 doesn't have equivalents to "The Almighty," or "Mist" which are basically the best boss themes in video game history. Also, P3 has Lotus Juice. blecch
TurboLibre
Member
noi5e said:
I agree with this statement. Those songs were pretty amazing.
TurboLibre
Member
zoku88 said:
First form of the last boss.
KibblesBits
Member
noi5e said:
remember this is all of noi5e's opinion.
Only managed to play 45 min. of this during the week because of laziness and tiredness. I vow to get some more time in this weekend and at least try to beat the
boss(es). Any tips to make the boss fights easier? I'm lvl 58 right now and haven't beat the sub boss or main yet.
heaven
Star Ocean 2 PSP has also contributed to me not playing it this week.
Unknown Soldier
Member
noi5e said:
WAT
Well, I'm not a fan of pimping things, but this is all neogaf anyway, so I guess it can't hurt.
If anyone's interested, several Gaffers have created fake Persona 4 magazine ads (for fun) starting here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349539&page=9 (or post 413). There's uh, instructions in the original post if anyone feels like joining in themselves. Flek's made wallpaper out of one of his too.
If anyone's interested, several Gaffers have created fake Persona 4 magazine ads (for fun) starting here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=349539&page=9 (or post 413). There's uh, instructions in the original post if anyone feels like joining in themselves. Flek's made wallpaper out of one of his too.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Just cleared November dungeon. That boss took a lot of work, but I managed to win after stocking up on healing items.
Nanako-chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, get better dammit
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
Damn. Just wrapped things up with the True Ending. Ending anime got me eyes liquidy. MC is such a souless douchebag though!
Watched the other endings on Youtube. Normal Ending and True Ending weren't different at all really, which is a bit lame, but obviously you had all the extra stuff in between.
I found some of the links to P3 very interesting, especially
. Still feels like theres some stuff they want to do with that.
Now the wait begins for another Persona I guess! I'm sure we'll get one since isnt it like Atlus' highest seller? Amazing game series, has become my go-to jRPG.
Watched the other endings on Youtube. Normal Ending and True Ending weren't different at all really, which is a bit lame, but obviously you had all the extra stuff in between.
I found some of the links to P3 very interesting, especially
Margret talking about how Elizabeth left to save P3's MC
Now the wait begins for another Persona I guess! I'm sure we'll get one since isnt it like Atlus' highest seller? Amazing game series, has become my go-to jRPG.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
SecretBonusPoint said:
I agree, they needed him to break convention and say SOMETHING in that final scene.It was laughable that he would just grunt and walk away from all his friends and get on a train without saying a freaking word.
It kinda pissed me off.
WHOAguitarninja
Member
Okay, playing through this now, pretty near the beggining
As of now the game is feeling kindof silly/repetitive, but there is alot of promise in the premise it seems. Does it get better?
Just rescued Yukiko
As of now the game is feeling kindof silly/repetitive, but there is alot of promise in the premise it seems. Does it get better?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
12/3
Nanak-chan, nooooooooooooooooo. Why did she have to die? Whyyyyyy?
This story is just...so engaging.
Edit:
She came back. It's amazing how much emotional response this gamee can give. But I'm glad. I didn't want her to be dead.SON OF A BITCH. Bad Ending.
Time to go back through that last segment again.
Having a rough time with the
boss. When he uses that "Quad Change" skill, and he uses that attack on everybody, it does like 400 dmg to everybody. Is there a period where I'm supposed to have the pt guard? I'm like lvl 59 do I need to grind?
I kind of wish I would've played this on Beginner.
Heaven
I kind of wish I would've played this on Beginner.
2DMention said:
Joule said:
When the atmosphere changes whatever element he uses will have x4 its usual effectiveness so just hit him back with the element he's using.
If he does a Ma-Dyne spell on your party and they all have Makarakarn on, the reflected damage will do around 2000~ damage on him. Of course if you don't have enough Magic Mirrors to do that then yeah the members of the party that are weak to the element he's chosen should guard. It helps to have a Persona that has null/repels/absorbs when he first goes into that mode so you'll know what to hit him with. Buff/debuff as usual. It also helps to have Mediarahan for the next phase of his pattern.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
2DMention said:
You might need to level up a little bit, but it probably depends.
Try and get at least one Persona in your party that has repel, null or drain for each of the elements. Repel is ideal, but the others still work.
Riskbreaker23
Member
Quick question about the christmas eve scene, do you have beat the december dungeon before the 22nd (21st last day to beat) or can you beat it on the 22nd to get the scene?
Femmeworth
Banned
You have to beat it on the 22nd, at the most.Riskbreaker23 said:
charlequin
Banned
FUCK YES. After stressing over whether it was going to be possible for hours of playtime, I maxed my last S-Link (Ai, with benefits) on 12/21.
Is it terrible that I'm less excited to play the
now than I was to use the power of math to squeeze in that last little bit of socialization into my packed schedule?
Is it terrible that I'm less excited to play the
last two dungeons straight in a row
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
charlequin said:
:lol yeah that's what Persona 3/4 do to you.
Red Scarlet
Member
She shouldn't be too bad until I get Parvati or Gabriel (they both get the 'more powerful healing' abil, iirc?) I guess. At least she has revive+heal and some kind of attack.
RocketDarkness
Member
I really like Alraune, she served me well for quite a while.Red Scarlet said:She shouldn't be too bad until I get Parvati or Gabriel (they both get the 'more powerful healing' abil, iirc?) I guess. At least she has revive+heal and some kind of attack.
Red Scarlet
Member
I probably spent about 4 hours trying to get her. I had one earlier that had Growth 2 + Dekunda + Null Wind + Me Patra, and that seemed kind of an okay defensive one, but the combination I had could've gotten me Null Wind + Growth 1 or 2 + Megido + Samarecarm, and I decided I wanted Null Wind + Growth 1 or 2 + Megido or Samarecarm, or Null Wind + Megido + Samarecarm and no Growth, but I wasn't getting Null Wind for crap, so I remade Matador with Null Wind and not Media just to fuse Alraune.
But then I saw I could remake Matador with Null Fire and if I did that I'd overwrite the regular one I had, which had Dekaja and Dekunda, so I figured I might want that Alraune with Dekunda since if I *did* remake Matador with Null Fire, he'd only get Dekaja. But I have some goat guy (the one I gave Alraune Megido and Samarecarm) with Dekunda anyway, so I said screw it and made the Alraune up there.
Now I just need about 46,000¥ to buy the two Personas to make a new Matador, then rebuy some other ones I made for Fusion. Hopefully she'll last me a bit and the new Matador works out. Going by memory, I think Makarakarn is the only ability Alraune is going to learn that is worth a crap..I know I don't need Green Wall. Is "Old One" worth a crap? I usually overwrite the Enervation causing/curing abilities (but I'll keep Energy Shower since it cures the party of it).
These games take me too long to do simple things.
But then I saw I could remake Matador with Null Fire and if I did that I'd overwrite the regular one I had, which had Dekaja and Dekunda, so I figured I might want that Alraune with Dekunda since if I *did* remake Matador with Null Fire, he'd only get Dekaja. But I have some goat guy (the one I gave Alraune Megido and Samarecarm) with Dekunda anyway, so I said screw it and made the Alraune up there.
Now I just need about 46,000¥ to buy the two Personas to make a new Matador, then rebuy some other ones I made for Fusion. Hopefully she'll last me a bit and the new Matador works out. Going by memory, I think Makarakarn is the only ability Alraune is going to learn that is worth a crap..I know I don't need Green Wall. Is "Old One" worth a crap? I usually overwrite the Enervation causing/curing abilities (but I'll keep Energy Shower since it cures the party of it).
These games take me too long to do simple things.
Red Scarlet
Member
Yeah, I've never used them either. Now I think I'm going to try to remake Kaiwan to have Resist Phys, unless my King Frost already has it..don't remember. aksdfaslkdard
TouchMyBox
Member
So, Sexy-Man detective
is actually a woman, right?
RocketDarkness
Member
Really? Enervation always seemed like one of the more useful status effects. Halving all stats can go a long way in making some battles go way faster. And enemies with no weaknesses tend to be particularly susceptible to status effects.Tamanon said:
Red Scarlet
Member
I know Rangda gets Repel Physical, not Rakshasa (or is there a Rakshata?) though. I know how to make a Decarabia->Gabriel with Repel Physical, but that's later on.
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
(Triple Element and Mudoon) Black Frost served me all the way up to the final boss. What a bad-ass brain pokemon!
My life sort of feels empty without a Persona game to be playing through now. I should get back to Yakuza 2 but I feel like playing through FES again now :/
Beat it. Just under 60 hours. Got the bad ending, which I'm surprisingly happy with. Watched the Good ending on youtube and have no idea what led up to it.
Closing thoughts:
-Game of the year. Everything is so well done, from the pacing, to gameplay, to characterizations.
-Loved the shortcut menus and ability to individually control all characters.
-This game didn't drag on toward the end, like P3 did. By the time I got to the 40 hour mark in P3, I was sick of it and wanted it to end. This game wasn't that way.
-I liked all the extra options for stuff to do outside of dungeon romping and S-Links
-I was kind of disappointed in some of the S.Links, especially Tower and Hermit. They were much better in P3, IMO.
-Difficult game, probably one of the toughest RPGs I've played in the 20+ years I've played games, but it's still manageable as long as you're leveled and prepared. (Then again, this is my 2nd SMT game).
-Voice acting was top notch, especially for
-The tone of the game is very low-key. You're not overwhelmed by anime cliches like P3 or other RPGs.
-The pacing was great. You never get bored, you don't max stats and S-Links too fast like in P3. The game has as many dramatic moments as it does humor and tension.
-The morals of this game are dead on perfect for its audience: friendship. Most of the hardcore nerds who could appreciate and understand this game probably need to level their social skills more.
-It's sad that the general public won't play or appreciate this game, because it truly stands out.
Time to play more SO2.
WTF? Nanako lived? How did that happen? Before you get the decision tree for the good/bad ending, she dies anyway, right?! And why do all the endings on youtube do the drama girl instead of the band girl?! IS there a separate cinema for the Band girl?
Closing thoughts:
-Game of the year. Everything is so well done, from the pacing, to gameplay, to characterizations.
-Loved the shortcut menus and ability to individually control all characters.
-This game didn't drag on toward the end, like P3 did. By the time I got to the 40 hour mark in P3, I was sick of it and wanted it to end. This game wasn't that way.
-I liked all the extra options for stuff to do outside of dungeon romping and S-Links
-I was kind of disappointed in some of the S.Links, especially Tower and Hermit. They were much better in P3, IMO.
-Difficult game, probably one of the toughest RPGs I've played in the 20+ years I've played games, but it's still manageable as long as you're leveled and prepared. (Then again, this is my 2nd SMT game).
-Voice acting was top notch, especially for
Chie
-The pacing was great. You never get bored, you don't max stats and S-Links too fast like in P3. The game has as many dramatic moments as it does humor and tension.
-The morals of this game are dead on perfect for its audience: friendship. Most of the hardcore nerds who could appreciate and understand this game probably need to level their social skills more.
-It's sad that the general public won't play or appreciate this game, because it truly stands out.
Time to play more SO2.
SecretBonusPoint said:
I always loved that image. The Jack Frosts look so happy to be squashed.
I only used my Black Frost up to about level 45 or so, but I grabbed him first thing for my New Game + playthrough. I figured he would be good enough to plow through the early game without being ridiculous (like if I had grabbed Satan or Trumpeter).
Of course, even with him, I still got one-shotted by Contrarian King (and my Black Frost has Resist Phys).
Prime crotch
Banned
Fuck this game, I'm beating it for the second time, I'm probably gonna max all the S Links except for one, and I still can't get the good/true ending choices right at the first time.
She can stay dead for all I care, fucking 30 mins long cutscenes with no saving between.
She can live even if you get the bad ending, it depends on if you do it or not.2DMention said:
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Prime crotch said:
I wasn't even aware there was a difference. I got the bad ending yesterday, but went back to my previous save, but I didn't do it.