sackboy2197
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Persona 5 |Import OT| You Are Slave. Want Emancipation? Coming Winter 2014.
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Going by Japanese youtube streams, yeah they're all blocked.
Megabyte117
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I'd agree with this response as well. Also living and working in Japan, and a bit above N3 level for kanji and vocabulary, and I'm finding it manageable. Personally, I think if you're dedicated to studying Japanese and your kanji level is decent or above that, I'd recommend it as a way to kinda force yourself to study since you'd be motivated in knowing what's happening in the game without having played an English version first.
I thought I'd answer this question - even though no one's really asked it.
I think i am somewhere between N5 and N4. my listening comprehension is terrible and probably below what is needed for N4, but my kanji, vocab and grammar are mostly there.
the tl;dr version of what it's like to play P5: no issues with the mechanics. no issues with quest instructions (like "meet Ryuji on the roof" or "transfer to the Ginza line"). but my vocabulary just isn't there to understand the story in most areas. sure, parts are easy ("who is that?" "are you a student?" "let's run") but motivations, complex issues, and the like are not.
this is fine for me and what i expected going in. i like playing RPGs for the mechanics of them and enjoy just chilling and playing the game aspects. i also wanted to challenge myself. there are nice tools here, since the log is amazing and you can replay dialogue (very nice because you not only learn the vocabulary, but you can hear it spoken as well to understand the intonation, which can be hard at this level). i am not approaching the game as a "learning tool" though - that would get miserable pretty quick and i really just want to enjoy the game to wind down. i do keep a notebook nearby to write down new words so that i can learn them later. (i'm at the stage where as a scarred Heisig veteran i'm trying to add readings to all these kanji through vocabulary, so when i see a kanji that i "know" but have no readings for, into the notebook it goes.)
there will be areas of the game that i'll be hopeless at without a guide, like the classroom answers and tests, but, the thing is, i'm awful at that in the english translations of P3 and P4 too (since i skim all that classroom text where the answers would be, and never remember it).
i would say though that if you have absolutely no japanese ability or are just starting out, the game could get very frustrating, very quickly, because you do need to be able to see kanji in the quest instructions, and then locate them in the game world.
encephalon
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In general for games like this, being at least N3 is probably best. N3 should be considered to be the most level basic of Japanese comprehension.
Initial impressions:
1. I really like the flow of the plot as explaining what happened to you.
2. The supernatural phenomena in an urban setting seems to be some of the best since 2.
3. The use of Japan as a setting is at the series' best. Transferring to the Ginza line ... lol. The blue train in part of the opening looks like one I take (or used to).
4. Most of the stylistic elements are really impressive, but I find the kaleidoscope overlay to be very distracting. My eyes want to focus on the overlay rather than what's happening on the screen. I wish there was a way to turn it off. Hopefully I can get used to it ...
5. I wanted the Persona appearance to be met with "Per-sooo-naaaaaaaa!" but that was muted and I was a little disappointed.
I have a feeling this will be my favorite since 2 IS.
Initial impressions:
1. I really like the flow of the plot as explaining what happened to you.
2. The supernatural phenomena in an urban setting seems to be some of the best since 2.
3. The use of Japan as a setting is at the series' best. Transferring to the Ginza line ... lol. The blue train in part of the opening looks like one I take (or used to).
4. Most of the stylistic elements are really impressive, but I find the kaleidoscope overlay to be very distracting. My eyes want to focus on the overlay rather than what's happening on the screen. I wish there was a way to turn it off. Hopefully I can get used to it ...
5. I wanted the Persona appearance to be met with "Per-sooo-naaaaaaaa!" but that was muted and I was a little disappointed.
I have a feeling this will be my favorite since 2 IS.
yep, and it's amazing because there's no background noise or music to interfere, either.
sadly it's not available for the canned anime cutscenes.
Hmm I guess I will wait then. If I have to look up too much, I can't really enjoy the game as a game. Got so many stuff to play at the moment anyway and Monster Hunter Stories is coming out next month, which should be no problem language-wise
ranmafan
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Pretty much, it's classified as being able to understand everyday conversations and to understand the main meanings of writings and some parts of newspapers articles and such. So yeah for RPGs like these I would say it's the lowest one could probably go into and try to play. but even that will be tough for those that may only just rely on Jlpt studying and such. The Japanese abilities you learn which aren't focused on the test, like actual conversation, may help those with the voiced scenes. But since not all scenes are voiced, those jumping in need at least this level to enjoy the story.
I will say to those trying to play as a study guide to Japanese, good luck! Hope it helps y'all learn more.
Of course, being able to follow what happens and what is being said requires more than just raw kanji knowledge -- it also requires comprehensive reading skills. I myself have looked up about 10-15 words myself during the first 15 hours, but there's plenty more I didn't know and learnt through the context of the phrase. Like, if you played the previous Persona games -- which you undoubtedly have -- you know what Igor is talking about (Social Links/Fusions/Compendium) even if he is harder to follow.
SprachBrooks
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Apparently those mythical things known as reviews are an exclusive Famitsu comodity in Japan.
It's reviewing pretty well in Amazon JP for whatever that's worth.
Wait for real? There are no review publications other than Famitsu? That's so bizarre; but I'll invariably go with the reviews on user sites anyway. Just a curious difference to the West I guess.
Coolbgdog12
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My reading is ahead of my listening. Like Igors rant wasn't too hard to follow after reading it and checking for a few words.
The Japanese subs and replay log makes catching up easy. I've been able to follow the story somewhat. the lady in the beginning in that room is a mouthful though
The Japanese subs and replay log makes catching up easy. I've been able to follow the story somewhat. the lady in the beginning in that room is a mouthful though
I'm probably below N3? I don't study for the tests, but I'm lacking in vocab and kanji. I'm getting the game though, there's plenty of tools for me to easily and quickly look up vocab/kanji. I'm not as worried about grammar, but I know I will run into issues from time to time.
I'm going into it knowing it's a gamble. I'm not looking at this as a way to study, but I'm not going to half ass my translations, so I'm sure I'll take some things away from it. I think I will have fun translating, it will take time but I don't think it will hurt my experience, but I'll find out soon enough. Maybe I'm in over my head, that's fine too because I'll still study as I have been, and if this game is just sitting on my shelf that will motivate me further.
I'm going into it knowing it's a gamble. I'm not looking at this as a way to study, but I'm not going to half ass my translations, so I'm sure I'll take some things away from it. I think I will have fun translating, it will take time but I don't think it will hurt my experience, but I'll find out soon enough. Maybe I'm in over my head, that's fine too because I'll still study as I have been, and if this game is just sitting on my shelf that will motivate me further.
ranmafan
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Well Dengeki PlayStation, which is another big publication in Japan, did have a longer than usual written review for the game in this weeks issue. But it wasn't part of their usual four people scored reviews, which give scores up to 100 and short written reviews. It reviewed well by the reviewer who wrote quite a bit about it.
Yu Narukami via P4Arena.
_Final_Phoenix_
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Is it okay to ask for specific a specific possible spoiler answer here, in the form of a simple yes-or-no context-less answer? Something's racking my brain, but I dunno if it's a party foul in import OTs.
Yu Narukami
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Yu something.
InternHertz
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I'm currently 21h in, and farming items in the
dungeon after fulfilling the second request.
Only done with the first palace so far. It was an awesome one.
There's a f-ck ton of side activities and I'm sure there a lot more to uncover, too bad I won't be able to max all of it. I suppose they've included a new game plus option like the other ones, and I hope we're able to keep almost everything to make the second playthrough the one we can max all of it in.
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Only done with the first palace so far. It was an awesome one.
There's a f-ck ton of side activities and I'm sure there a lot more to uncover, too bad I won't be able to max all of it. I suppose they've included a new game plus option like the other ones, and I hope we're able to keep almost everything to make the second playthrough the one we can max all of it in.
Just reloaded my save a couple times to get perfect answers on the second round of exams, so might as well just post my findings here and hopefully help you guys out.
Second round of exams starts
and lasts until
. I'll organize the answers by date and will say which textbox is the right one counted from top to bottom.
No idea which rank of intelligence is needed, but I had rank 3 and it looks like I didn't ace.
Second round of exams starts
7/13
7/16
7/13 = 3,2,2,1
7/14 = 3,3
7/15 = 2,3
Currently sitting at 22hours, but I skipped all cutscenes and fast forwarded all dialogue, as I am playing through the game twice anyways.
Shouta
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Only the first dungeon is like that because it has to do a lot of setup. The 2nd dungeon only has one point where you're required to leave to get something done to proceed and there's a story specific reason instead of being setup for the team.
You'll also get access to something later if you're really into dungeon crawling.
hiphoptherobot
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I'm pretty much in the same boat.There is still a ton of kanji that I don't know. But I'm still (slowly) working my way through the game and having fun. I also have the benefit of having a japanese wife who I can bother whenever I get really stuck.
Iva Demilcol
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I restarted the game yesterday at night because I "changed" my character's name -___-
I reached the point where I was yesterday so I lost one day of progress. Not a big deal though.
Is Atlus still taking down streams? I wonder what would they do if I upload P5 footage through Xbox live. =D
I reached the point where I was yesterday so I lost one day of progress. Not a big deal though.
Is Atlus still taking down streams? I wonder what would they do if I upload P5 footage through Xbox live. =D
RyougaSaotome
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I know some folks that got shut down, but they were on Nico Douga.
I've been streaming under the game tag "Crazy Taxi," so. >.>
Gonna stream in a lil bit actually. twitch.tv/elliotryo
I started up P4G yesterday and named it after myself, although I wished I had used the official name. I always prefer an official name than doing my own.
In P4 it would feel weird to see my name in there with honorifics and it just feels out of place. Without an official name it's just name it after another anime character or come up with a random japanese name.
Megawarrior
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It's out for delivery now so it was actually in the US I think. Is yours? I can't focus on house cleaning today at all.
Not sure what you mean by true ending, but I got the real/epilogue final dungeon/boss of p4 on my first & only playthrough. These games are so long I can't imagine ever replaying them again. Hopefully the real ending isn't hidden behind a new game+ requirement here.
I just assumed he was talking about max social link playthroughs.
Blackquill
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So I know it's too early to get a review on the whole game but what are people impressions so far ? I also want to know if loadings are decent this time and if PS3 version runs smoothly, thanks !
Speaking of which, what do you guys think of the side content so far? Like, I remember seeing some mini-games in one of the trailers, how are those?
Did any of you bump into a sidequest like (DayBreakers anime special spoilers)
the Daybreakers depicted, with sort of a "mystery" to solve, a little bit of plot involved and an optional boss and stuff, or is it still just random menial tasks like "go find these weirdly specific items that drop from demons for no reason"?
Also, concerning the city, is it bigger than in previous games or is it still just as segmented and relatively small? Is there a lot to do and explore?
Shouta
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If it's the one I'm thinking of then it's
then you're supposed to climb the walls into the other areas to hit buttons to let your friends out. If it's the Laser walls in the garden area, then you need to exit the dungeon so you can do a story sequence that brings the laser walls down.
orthodoxy1095
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Using my Western name would look goofy as shit. So the only options are to use an official name, or to use some made up Japanese name (sometimes I use my Japanese grandpa's name).
Morning Star
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Mine arrived in the US a couple hours after that post and it's actually not that far away from me now according to tracking but...
Iva Demilcol
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That would fit more Persona 4 because of the velvet room, but I suppose that works to avoid the ninjas that are taking down streams.
His official name is Akira?
I named him Hikaru... Which has a similar meaning :0
The world slowly opens up. Areas are the same size as the previous games, but the shopping street is crammed with stores, like real-life Shibuya.
Kazuma Kaneko. I named my band of thieves 真・聖杯騎士団 ("Order of the True Grail Knights").
Just arrived at the second dungeon after
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