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Persona 5 |OT| Lupin The Fifth. Label spoilers properly! (see post #4621)

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Holundrian

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i super like how awkward he is, but the best part is femC plays him like a fiddle.

I don't really mind given it's kind of teenager like behavior in a way.
But if we're riding the hate on characters train there's no denying that the Slink has quite sexist undertones that do not really fit with given the type of character the feMC kind of seems to be(Being like 20 times more competent than Junpei at everything). There's a lot of "I gotta protect you cause you're grill and I'm going to be really goddamn stupid about it".

Lots of weirdness and head scratching for me.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Palace 6 mid point question (need help)
So is it not possible to buy all the items I in the casino?

I basically bought the soma and the other item in the member floor and then I won the games and had enough to go to high stakes area. I the progressed through and obtained 100,000 on top of the 1,080 extra coins I had from before. But if I buy the items in the high stakes counter then my total drops to 99,000 and there doesn't really seem to be a way to win 1000 coins except for the dice games which give tiny rewards.

I really want that despair gun and I am about 920 coins short.
 

Zafir

Member
Palace 6 mid point question (need help)
So is it not possible to buy all the items I in the casino?

I basically bought the soma and the other item in the member floor and then I won the games and had enough to go to high stakes area. I the progressed through and obtained 100,000 on top of the 1,080 extra coins I had from before. But if I buy the items in the high stakes counter then my total drops to 99,000 and there doesn't really seem to be a way to win 1000 coins except for the dice games which give tiny rewards.

Go open the bridge up first later in the dungeon, before buying the other items.
 

silva1991

Member
Palace 6 mid point question (need help)
So is it not possible to buy all the items I in the casino?

I basically bought the soma and the other item in the member floor and then I won the games and had enough to go to high stakes area. I the progressed through and obtained 100,000 on top of the 1,080 extra coins I had from before. But if I buy the items in the high stakes counter then my total drops to 99,000 and there doesn't really seem to be a way to win 1000 coins except for the dice games which give tiny rewards.

I did buy them all, so yeah it's possible.

grinding for money in the hacked game is a must I think or else the rest of the games will run out of money after few tries. I don't know if they will be available in a different day though
 

Audioboxer

Member
It's under a spoiler tag
Is it not hiding or something because it looks ok on my end

spoiled pictures doesn't work on mobile

Most people don't know that, it's going to keep happening.

If you're on mobile and don't want to risk getting spoiled by images just go to settings and make it so images are hidden unless you tap on em.

Well ain't that some shit

That should be added to the op

Sorry that is my fault I didn't know that either!
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Starting Palace 3.

It freaking sucks that the insta-kill when sneaking thing even happens if you don't have Ryuji in your party :-/

The music though... god damn it's so awesome.
 
Starting Palace 3.

It freaking sucks that the insta-kill when sneaking thing even happens if you don't have Ryuji in your party :-/

The music though... god damn it's so awesome.

I am not even in the third palace, I just beat
Madarame
but before that I farmed exp and money. I had Ryuji's instant kill ability unlocked and I farmed for like 4 hours and only made ambush. And I NEVER got the instant kill. Maybe it is because I play on MERCILESS?
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I am not even in the third palace, I just beat
Madarame
but before that I farmed exp and money. I had Ryuji's instant kill ability unlocked and I farmed for like 4 hours and only made ambush. And I NEVER got the instant kill. Maybe it is because I play on MERCILESS?

Most likely. Are you even getting any blue enemies if you scan them with the thief-vision ? I guess it's a lot more prone to insta-kill if it's lesser leveled blue enemies.
 

Lusankya

Member
Starting Palace 3.

It freaking sucks that the insta-kill when sneaking thing even happens if you don't have Ryuji in your party :-/

The music though... god damn it's so awesome.

You need to be overleveled a lot for that to happen though. Simply being two or three levels above won't trigger it.
E.g. currently it happens for me at level 40 when I encounter the level 29 enemies at palace 5, but not when I encounter the level 35 opponents.

Edit: I don't even know why there are level 29 enemies at palace 5 when the previous one had way stronger ones.
 

kagamin

Member
So, I'm at 12/22, how close am I to the end here? On a related note,
I was not expecting that whole thing with Akechi and Shido to play out like that at all, caught me of guard damn
.
 

nOoblet16

Member
Go open the bridge up first later in the dungeon, before buying the other items.
Lol that was easy.

I did buy them all, so yeah it's possible.

grinding for money in the hacked game is a must I think or else the rest of the games will run out of money after few tries. I don't know if they will be available in a different day though
Check above
if you go the the bridge you end up getting more money
..I guess your grinding went to waste :p
 

Chaos17

Member
You guys aren't kidding. Palace number 5 really is long.

I've sunk more than 3 hours but apparently I'm still at around the middle of it.

Long and boring, gameplay and story wise.

Ryuji thinks we're the Avengers when we're supposed to be the Bat family...
That's my problem too with him, specialy during Hawaii trip, I diecided to spend my free time with him instead with a chick, worst choice EVER.
Thank god he calmed down in chapter 5 for no reason but I'm okay with that.
 
Most likely. Are you even getting any blue enemies if you scan them with the thief-vision ? I guess it's a lot more prone to insta-kill if it's lesser leveled blue enemies.

Yes. I get blue enemies. It just depends on how high your level is.

I found out a very good way to farm money on the second palace:

First I spent 100.000 for SP3 accessory.

Then I used the the thief-vision in the first area of the second palace to look after golden enemies, which were ALWAYS 2 APSARAS.

I killed the first, then attacked the second (but the MC on guard) with every other character until it wants to talk, then I ask for money and keep asking for money (Toro Rank 2) until it calls for backup and keep doing the same thing over and over. I was able to get over 40.000 in one battle session. Right now, I have like 400.000 and 4x SP3 rings.
 

Sorian

Banned
Yes. I get blue enemies. It just depends on how high your level is.

I found out a very good way to farm money on the second palace:

First I spent 100.000 for SP3 accessory.

Then I used the the thief-vision in the first area of the second palace to look after golden enemies, which were ALWAYS 2 APSARAS.

I killed the first, then attacked the second (but the MC on guard) with every other character until it wants to talk, then I ask for money and keep asking for money (Toro Rank 2) until it calls for backup and keep doing the same thing over and over. I was able to get over 40.000 in one battle session. Right now, I have like 400.000 and 4x SP3 rings.

You lost me at spending 100k on the accessory.
 

Sölf

Member
You need to be overleveled a lot for that to happen though. Simply being two or three levels above won't trigger it.
E.g. currently it happens for me at level 40 when I encounter the level 29 enemies at palace 5, but not when I encounter the level 35 opponents.

Edit: I don't even know why there are level 29 enemies at palace 5 when the previous one had way stronger ones.

Hm, reading this, how often does this trigger? Because I am still missing a few low level Personas which I could probably recruit in Mementos, but those are quite a few levels below me most of the time.
 

Lusankya

Member
Sölf;233785105 said:
Hm, reading this, how often does this trigger? Because I am still missing a few low level Personas which I could probably recruit in Mementos, but those are quite a few levels below me most of the time.

Imho it triggers always when they're seriously below you. But don't worry you will gain the Persona (the mask) automatically in that case.

Thank god he calmed down in chapter 5 for no reason but I'm okay with that.

I don't think it's for no reason.
Even though he probably isn't going to admit it, but he also was happy that Morgana returned to them and he knew he was a big reason for why Morgana left in the first place. Of course imho Ryuji never meant any harm when he said "you're useless", but he doesn't know Morgana as well as the MC does.
 

gweemz

Member
So I am eadly in this game, should the firsr dungeon be kicking my ass even on Easy? I ran out of sp and then really couldn't progress. The guide says I should be able to reach the treasure in one day, so what am I doing wrong?
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The insta-kill ability is horrible, make it stop.

I know :(

For something like that there should have been a toggle. Or at the very least if you're getting 'lucky' and killing enemies instantly, at least give the fucking EXP for it.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
fuck me that was close, I was completely drained securing the route of palace 2. I really need those sp regen things you guys keep talking about :/
 

Owensboro

Member
I'm so sick of screwing up negotiations with Shadows. I have that chart that shows what answers each type of enemy likes/hates and I still keep screwing up. "Is that one more vague, or more jokey? That seems like a nice thing to say....nope, it was apparently serious? What....two funny answers in this set? I'll chose A...ohgoddammit..." I just lost 5 negotiations in a row (only getting an item) in the 4th palace and am |--| this close to just starting a master list of what each type of answer is (I'm starting to see repeat questions).
I know :(

For something like that there should have been a toggle. Or at the very least if you're getting 'lucky' and killing enemies instantly, at least give the fucking EXP for it.
Whoah, wait, what? Instant Kill doesn't give you XP...what about items/money? Holy hell, I'm glad I put off that specific S.Link step then. I assume there's also no way to recruit shadows if you Instant Kill them?
 

Chaos17

Member
Why I can't take Hufumi to more hangout places :(

I don't think it's for no reason.
Even though he probably isn't going to admit it, but he also was happy that Morgana returned to them and he knew he was a big reason for why Morgana left in the first place. Of course imho Ryuji never meant any harm when he said "you're useless", but he doesn't know Morgana as well as the MC does.

I was talking in general during the chapter 5 not just that moment. The Ryugi I've now is the Ryugi in his S-link for me which is what I wanted from a long time ago.
 

Raybunny

Member
So, I'm at 12/22, how close am I to the end here? On a related note,
I was not expecting that whole thing with Akechi and Shido to play out like that at all, caught me of guard damn
.

Very close.

After 95+ hours I finished the game. What an experience. What a game. As my first persona game I am happy.
 
I'm so sick of screwing up negotiations with Shadows. I have that chart that shows what answers each type of enemy likes/hates and I still keep screwing up. "Is that one more vague, or more jokey? That seems like a nice thing to say....nope, it was apparently serious? What....two funny answers in this set? I'll chose A...ohgoddammit..." I just lost 5 negotiations in a row (only getting an item) in the 4th palace and am |--| this close to just starting a master list of what each type of answer is (I'm starting to see repeat questions).

Yeah the personality guidelines seem almost useless. I've had much better luck just winging it based on what the demon seems like than trying to figure out which cryptic option constitutes "serious" or "vague."
 

FelipeMGM

Member
Im 40h into and have no clue what Morgana will turn out to be, but I hope its a Dog

Just let me watch a godamn movie before sleep you freaking cat!
 

Zesh

Member
I'm so sick of screwing up negotiations with Shadows. I have that chart that shows what answers each type of enemy likes/hates and I still keep screwing up. "Is that one more vague, or more jokey? That seems like a nice thing to say....nope, it was apparently serious? What....two funny answers in this set? I'll chose A...ohgoddammit..." I just lost 5 negotiations in a row (only getting an item) in the 4th palace and am |--| this close to just starting a master list of what each type of answer is (I'm starting to see repeat questions).

Whoah, wait, what? Instant Kill doesn't give you XP...what about items/money? Holy hell, I'm glad I put off that specific S.Link step then. I assume there's also no way to recruit shadows if you Instant Kill them?

I have the same issues. I see people say they never fail negotiations, and I just feel like I'm missing something. It's often not clear to me which answer is serious/jokey/vague, as they're often quite similar.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm so sick of screwing up negotiations with Shadows. I have that chart that shows what answers each type of enemy likes/hates and I still keep screwing up. "Is that one more vague, or more jokey? That seems like a nice thing to say....nope, it was apparently serious? What....two funny answers in this set? I'll chose A...ohgoddammit..." I just lost 5 negotiations in a row (only getting an item) in the 4th palace and am |--| this close to just starting a master list of what each type of answer is (I'm starting to see repeat questions).

Whoah, wait, what? Instant Kill doesn't give you XP...what about items/money? Holy hell, I'm glad I put off that specific S.Link step then. I assume there's also no way to recruit shadows if you Instant Kill them?

you don't get money or EXP but it *does* give you a Persona. It just says XXXX persona obtained, something like that.
 

Owensboro

Member
Im 40h into and have no clue what Morgana will turn out to be, but I hope its a Dog

Just let me watch a godamn movie before sleep you freaking cat!
Definitely a cat. A dog would let you watch the movie, make coffee, do laundry, make infiltration tools, and then crash and burn the next day at school from sleep deprivation.
 
Yeah the personality guidelines seem almost useless. I've had much better luck just winging it based on what the demon seems like than trying to figure out which cryptic option constitutes "serious" or "vague."

The only one that really throws me is Irritable-type shadows. There's so many ways to take "serious" answers, and what I think is correct never is. Those shadows are basically inscrutable to me every time I encounter them... I'd be better off rolling a die to determine answers.

And it sucks 'cause I thought I knew how it worked. I even made a post about it some pages back, but heck, I dunno.
 
The only one that really throws me is Irritable-type shadows. There's so many ways to take "serious" answers, and what I think is correct never is. Those shadows are basically inscrutable to me every time I encounter them... I'd be better off rolling a die to determine answers.

And it sucks 'cause I thought I knew how it worked. I even made a post about it some pages back, but heck, I dunno.

Irritable has probably been my biggest problem too - D3 Yaksini and Orthras were giving me fits. Maybe "irritable" is a mis-translation of "inscrutable."
 

Plum

Member
Downloading the Japanese Audio track now.

Really not sure whether to switch to it. On one hand P3 and 4 both having English dubs would make it feel 'weird' to me, that and I'm already 2 and a half hours in. On the other hand I'm not 100% with the English dub for this.
 

Holundrian

Unconfirmed Member
Why repeat yourself why not make the mascot something more interesting like a penguin or a lizard or hawk? There are a lot more awesome animals out there outside of cat and dogs.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Downloading the Japanese Audio track now.

Really not sure whether to switch to it. On one hand P3 and 4 both having English dubs would make it feel 'weird' to me, that and I'm already 2 and a half hours in. On the other hand I'm not 100% with the English dub for this.

The english dub is great, the first two-three hours really don't give the full impression.

Save JP for the NG+ run, i'd say.
 

Ydelnae

Member
Everytime I come to the Mementos you do the same fucking song. Lock it up, come with something new. Do something different for gods sake.
 
Spoilers for July
Lol, Futaba has been "asleep" for like two weeks but according to Sojiro, that's just a thing she does sometimes! Yeah, it's called a coma...
Some of the writing in this game is the best I've seen in a Persona game but certain elements are... problematic. It's really uneven.
 
Why repeat yourself why not make the mascot something more interesting like a penguin or a lizard or hawk? There are a lot more awesome animals out there outside of cat and dogs.
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Thud

Member
Why repeat yourself why not make the mascot something more interesting like a penguin or a lizard or hawk? There are a lot more awesome animals out there outside of cat and dogs.

I want Persona 6 to have a green or purple theme with either an elephant or a dolphin.

Even a dinosaur could work. Besides we already had a dog in Persona 3.
 

Plum

Member
The english dub is great, the first two-three hours really don't give the full impression.

Save JP for the NG+ run, i'd say.

Yeah, it's mainly Morgana I'm not a fan of really. Ryuji, the Gym Teacher and other smaller characters are all serviceable to good so far. I'll keep to it then switch to JP next year when I do my second playthrough.

In other news, really enjoying it so far, though of course I'm not too far in. Playing on easy though, I love Persona but I've never been one to love JRPGs enough to "git gud" in them.
 
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