Is this why I'm having a hard time upping his S-link? Seems like every time he's available I can't get him past the third stage.
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Is this why I'm having a hard time upping his S-link? Seems like every time he's available I can't get him past the third stage.
I made multiple saves so I could see both. I genuinely enjoy both of them. Went with platonic myself.
klabautermann
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Yeah, I've failed like 2 negotiations in my 35 hours. They rarely ever ask for money or items and you only have to get one good reaction and scared reaction at worst to obtain them? It's a cake walk.
Well, okay, guess that flew right over my head.
That said, continued sexual abuse can be a big of a reason for attempts at suicide as much as rape, so I find that reasoning a little bit odd.
I'll correct myself and say Ryuji was the second biggest victim after Shiho, then. Either way, no mention of Ryuji still bothers the shit out of me.
BrightLightLava
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That's a trend that unfortunately continues.
Here it is: PALACE 4 SPOILERS.
That's a screen grab from Atlus' sizzle trailer, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrEsWifd13M
2/11
Did I just discovered a new S-link ?
Nooooooooooooooo
Did I just discovered a new S-link ?
Nooooooooooooooo
He is really slow to upgrade but after 4, he is locked behind story (chapter 4).
Are there other social links that tie in with other characters? The thing I hate the most about social link type systems is that they're too isolated from the rest of the game.
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Kamoshida literally says that
because Ann wouldn't sleep with him, he had Shiho take her place. It fucks Shiho up so much that she tries to kill herself the day after it happens.
a broken leg and a few spoiled friendships
Seriously, I mean, what did you want him to say?
"Yeah, I raped Shiho and held her future hostage to try to get Ann to sleep with me, and I totally grabbed a bunch of other puss Donald Trump style, but the person I REALLY need to apologize to is Ryuji for that time I broke his leg. Sorry man, that really was my low point."
change schools
the track team
BrightLightLava
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Beautiful, thanks.
Marmaladefire
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Well the whole framing device of you being interrogated by the
sister
Makoto
Thanks, I appreciate your time in making this post!
I'll take your advice and just enjoy myself my first time through. I feel if I use a guide to micro-manage all of the side-stuff, I'll probably end up liking the game less than if I just played it blind. I'm sure I'll want to replay it again anyway, so I'll use that time to gather all of the stuff I skipped over in my initial play-through.
I guess there's nothing else to do but jump in! It's been a long time coming and, from what I've read so far, the game more than measures up. Can't wait.
Iva Demilcol
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Don't bother with Sojiro's SL until you get that character. You could use that time to raise your stats because other SLs require level 4 charm and what not.
Chrono Helix
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Don't know about a sequel, but I wouldn't mind revisiting the game in an expanded edition like in FES. So many possible additions: new confidants, new personas, new dungeons, rebalanced confidant rewards and requirements (there's been a few complaints in this thread about how social links for
new party members open up only after the dungeon you recuit them, which means you can't use them for Baton Pass
You make it sound like I want him to just handwave off what he did to Shiho. I'm saying that Ryuji should've been mentioned AS well, not just ignored entirely. He's part of the main cast, for fuck's sake. This is more of a problem with the writing than anything else.
And I corrected myself with the Ryuji being the biggest victim if you hadn't seen the post already, so calm down.
I don't know yet because I just began Futaba. It's just both interact with each other and deepen each other character back story.
I advice anyone who want to do them to max your kindness because both ask you that stat to pursue them.
Kain-Nosgoth
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didn't see these meme, can you post them or link them? thanks!
Yeah, but the "special abuse" on that day seemed to have been her breaking point. That may even tie into that whole "You're not diserable if you're no longer a virgin" angle that's especially prevalent in Japan. Shiho was always an outsider and that probably cemented for her that her status would never change. There are some characters in the game that make a lot more sense when you consider the setting, Kaneshiro is another big offender.
I don't know what I'd do if I was Sae and had to listen to around 70 hours of teenage hijinks in Tokyo.
Thanks, I appreciate your time in making this post!
I'll take your advice and just enjoy myself my first time through. I feel if I use a guide to micro-manage all of the side-stuff, I'll probably end up liking the game less than if I just played it blind. I'm sure I'll want to replay it again anyway, so I'll use that time to gather all of the stuff I skipped over in my initial play-through.
I guess there's nothing else to do but jump in! It's been a long time coming and, from what I've read so far, the game more than measures up. Can't wait.
No problem.
And yeah, if you think you'll be down for a second playthrough then absolutely don't bother with a guide for your first run. Just do your own thing and have fun, all the serious guide following can take place in the second run.
Feel free to ask questions, people are always in here answering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWQFnC2zqU
Literally spent like 10K there last night when I found it lol
I ain't gonna be posting P5 memes here, but:
Bad example:
Good example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWQFnC2zqU&feature=youtu.be
Marmaladefire
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The best part is that they specifically say that she isn't allowed to interrogate him for long in the first 10 minutes of the game. That must be a meta joke, right?
Will do!
My second run probably won't happen right away (too any games in my backlog right now, I STILL haven't touched Breath of the Wild :/), but eventually? Oh yes, I definitely will.
Where is it? Had no idea this was a thing.
Either that or the protagonist speaks really, really, really fast.
In Akihabara.
Well shoot, my kindness stat is the lowest right now.
Makes sense why she would
move
To the flower shop!
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Yeah, maybe don't tell me to calm down there, boss.
What I'm saying is that elevating
a physical beating
sexual assault
Frankly put, Ryuji just didn't deserve a place in that apology. Not saying he never should have gotten one -- there very well could have been a separate scene where Kamoshida apologized to both Ryuji and Mishima (and hell the entire volleyball and track team) -- but thematically it's just not important.
TetraGenesis
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I really want to know if Neil Druckmann is playing Persona for some reason.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the reprehensible nature of what
Kamoshida did to Shiho
His life was pretty much ruined. Sure, he wasn't sexually assaulted but he was still emotionally and physically abused, with his mom, the person he really cares about, losing faith in him after what Kamoshida provoked him into doing. Sports were all he had, since he is not very smart in a society that greatly values test scores and intelligence, so his future was robbed as well. Kamoshida's reaction to Ryuji's violence was very over the top, too, much more than it needed to be
Shiho
Kamoshida ruined both of their lives
TetraGenesis
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God, if Iwai and Takemi were members of your party, this game would have been perfect.
Kain-Nosgoth
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this is amazing! Do you have others or a site/forum where i can find them? Thanks again!
It just hit me that Yusuke totally comes off as autistic. I doubt it was the writers' intention but that's still pretty awesome, I love him.
Yeah I don't think those are comparable, but there's no denying Ryuji had it rough. His only sort of escapism was taken away from him, was injured, humiliated, branded as a criminal in the eyes of everyone in his school including teachers and has nearly no chance to ever rebuild his life. And even after the asshole who made all that happened has been called out, his situation doesn't change.
Yeah I don't think those are comparable, but there's no denying Ryuji had it rough. His only sort of escapism was taken away from him, was injured, humiliated, branded as a criminal in the eyes of everyone in his school including teachers and has nearly no chance to ever rebuild his life. And even after the asshole who made all that happened has been called out, his situation doesn't change.
Kain-Nosgoth
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just be an asshole, date them all, you already stole their hearts.... but choosing? eh, too much work! let's keep thing simple, haha
If it was persona 2, they definitely would be! that would be great yeah!
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I still need Adultsona 5: Adventures of Sae, Iwai and Takemi. I will pine for it until the day I die
or at least for a few years
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I'm only downplaying it because I don't know how his story ends yet. I'm only at the third palace and I think rank 4 or 5 in his S Link, so I don't know if
the track team gets back together or something. The thing with Ryuji is that, with Kamoshida now disgraced, Ryuji's life is easily fixable. He could conceivably join a new team and rebuild those relationships. His leg is healed and he's plenty competent in the Metaverse; he has options open to him. Shiho can't un-rape herself.
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time to button mash.
Marmaladefire
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There are..Valid..Reasons to want her in party. Just not that many. The main one being a dedicated healer who doesn't mind you staying up at night
Does he? I didn't read it that way, but it's cool if people are getting that from him. I also went to art school though, so I definitely know his type, and love him for it. I really enjoy that he's a "soft boy" type without any conjuncture or over pronunciation of it or constant speculation of his sexuality. He's just not about that toxic masculinity. He's also really kooky and randomly is your best damage dealer.
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