Radical Edward
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Yeah, they've all been pretty weak, tbh. Much better than P4 but that's not saying much.
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Persona 5 |OT2| Someone must have been helping you go to bed early. Talk!
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Son Of Sparda
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9/27
I'm basically forcing myself through the game right now. The game had a huge drop in quality after the 4th palace.
I'm basically forcing myself through the game right now. The game had a huge drop in quality after the 4th palace.
Wait until Palace 7. Though 7 has better music/atmosphere
I'm struggling to think of a modern console RPG with better dungeon design. That's not me being a hardcore fanboy btw, it's just the recent stuff I've played (Berseria, Cold Steel, etc) has been super simplistic.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
This game has some of the most unique dungeons I've ever seen in games tbh. They are not Dark Souls type but that's a different type of game. Nor are they like FFXV's dungeons, FFXV actually has a masterclass of a dungeon in level design in the form of Pitioss dungeon, but again those are very different types and the things that makes those great are different than what a Persona 5 dungeon offers. What you get in Persona doesn't really feel or look like dungeons but rather giant levels with interesting themes, music, presentations and bosses.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
I mean, I get that for right after persona but please don't cancel that plan for good!
Question for people who have maxed the Tower confidant:
I've been focusing on party member links as I get near the end so I can get all their skills, but realised by neglecting Tower I may have screwed myself out of the ability to fuse Yoshitsune who I'm assuming is the final Tower persona? Does Tower have any Mementos quests or stat requirements that will block progress? I'm on 11/23, Tower is at rank 3. I have max charm, knowledge and proficiency, the other 2 at rank 4.
You need Strength 5 for that persona. Maxing tower simply gives you extra exp during fusion.
Don't worry,
Yoshitsune isn't locked behind the Tower arcana. You gain access to him after ranking up the Strength arcana to at least 5
There's more free DLC then? Which are they?
The Swimsuit (lol) DLC, the Butler/Maid set and the Christmas set.
That's what I'm wondering. Especially long running series, like I enjoy Tales games but they phone in the dungeon/field areas like crazy.
Persona 5 dungeons are incredibly refreshing in comparison, both in theme and general plot tie in to some of the stuff you actually do. Some run a bit too long but all in all I've enjoyed all of them a ton. Boss fights have been great as well.
Radical Edward
Member
Simplistic is fine. In P5 the dungeon aesthetics are quite poor and seem like a lot of copy and paste. The is almost no exploration and detective vision makes looting a joke. Maybe they get much better after 4, i'm not there yet. I just find them boring to traverse and having contextual jump/climb buttons dont help. I recently played Divinity, FFXV and Nioh and i'm not saying they are better or worse games but I had a lot more fun in their dungeons
Mister_Ruck
Member
You don't. I've never once used anything besides lockpicks and I've just about finished the game.
I was wondering too.
Dragon1893
Member
People are never happy, it's actually fascinating.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Nope.
The 5th one was literally the worst dungeon that I've seen in this game thus far.
Not saying people are wronh in saying there are better ones, because there's lots of RPG series I don't play, but personally Persona 5 has the best dungeon I've seen in an (non first person dungeon crawler) RPG period.
I'm not counting stuff like Souls games either tho.
Palace 6 is great tho.
I'm not counting stuff like Souls games either tho.
Palace 6 is great tho.
Radical Edward
Member
Not everyone has to love the same stuff as you. There are people in here that defend the game's camera and stealth mechanics. I don't find it fun to traverse and explore the dungeons, there's not much more to it.
Random palace 7 thing:
How did they do the "calling card" this time? In the video everyone is in their P-thief getup, so this must be shot from the metaverse but wasn't it said in palace 1 that cameras don't work in there? Not that important obviously, as it was still a cool scene.
ShaggsMagoo
Member
I finally got the Bookworm trophy! The final book I found and read:
. Goddamnit.
Speed Reading
If I had to guess, I'd say Futaba had something to do with that be it with her Persona or tech skills.
Palace 6 is the shit. Loved everything about it aside from
blue/red hacking part for Futaba
psynergylover
Member
dodging that chalk like a boss!!!
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
There's not a skip puzzle function lol I'm dying and crying internally.
This airlock stuff
Radical Edward
Member
Why shouldnt we count soulsborne games though? Their dungeons would be just as great with turnbased enemies running around.
I don't know. I thought
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was pretty damn fun & cool.
Haven't had a dungeon yet that made me go "this looks kind of lame." Only complaint is the length sometimes, but I always get this wonderful feeling whenever I'm tired & ready to quit exploring, only to hit the next story bits or safe rooms. Good times.
fighting in a castle, jumping from chandelier to chandelier
hopping tombs inside a pyramid
Haven't had a dungeon yet that made me go "this looks kind of lame." Only complaint is the length sometimes, but I always get this wonderful feeling whenever I'm tired & ready to quit exploring, only to hit the next story bits or safe rooms. Good times.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
There is nothing to FFXVs dungeons though, they are just hallway mazes that look pretty. I havent played Nioh, if its anything like Bloodborne I would expect good things.
P5's are definitely some of the best in the genre. They are varied in design, thematic, and littered with simple puzzles to keep things fresh. The only issue is that sections can drag a bit.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Hearing people say that is literally the only reason that I've kept playing for the past dozens of hours.
It's so crazy to say that, cause I was insanely into Persona 4, but now the past 20-30 hours of Persona 5 have been literally awful. I'm even reluctant and forcing myself to do S-links and build my stats, and those were the things that I really loved in Persona 4.
This is so disappointing.
BassForever
Member
Yusuke is the best dude makes me laugh my ass off
So I take it you prefer the randomly generated hallways of P4?
The controls in general feel awful. I love the game so far for the same reasons I've always loved P3 and P4 but the fact that the controls and animation still feel like a PS2 game is a bummer.
Tell me about it. Been trying to rank up my Charm for forever already.
I'm closer to how you feel although not as dramatic about it. I definitely don't like this as much as Persona 4 - there's no warmth to it, or I don't feel like over-looking the repetitive/poor writing this time around.
I still like it though, overall. Just started dungeon 5, seems fine. Music is crap, but I keep it low in dungeons anyway cos even if it's a good song, it gets annoying eventually.
The story feels like it is going nowhere, although I am still hoping they pick it up towards the end.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
the only controls that feel off are the stealth controls, especially with how the camera spins when you exit cover.
Post Palace 7 spoilers.
So, I am in Mementos Depths now. It sounds like we are going to erase Mementos. Does that mean after finishing this dungeon, I can no longer do Mementos requests, therefore I am stuck on various Confidants?
Also, the Palace 7 boss required both my Somas. Am I fucked?
Also, the Palace 7 boss required both my Somas. Am I fucked?
Radical Edward
Member
I am finding P5 to be hallway mazes that dont look pretty, though. To me they were more fun in ffxv because there were lots of hidden areas to explore and traversal wasnt contextual and the secret dungeon is on a whole other level.
I'm not saying P5 is worst in genre but I was expecting more from a game in 2017. Maybe when they drop ps3 support they will go all out on dungeon design.