Why would you be angry?
Anyway, when it is announced, I can't wait for the coinciding thread to be locked due to shitposting.
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Why would you be angry?
Anyway, when it is announced, I can't wait for the coinciding thread to be locked due to shitposting.
Half of me thinks there's no way P5 will disappoint me.
The other half recalls Arena and Golden.
No way they dump social links. Revamp them? Sure. I can't see them removing the one thing that really made P3/P4 stand out from most modern RPGs.
SatelliteOfLove
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I'm getting the PS3 one and representing #TeamDorf. The only question is will I have the time during the early weeks. SMT4, ToX, and Steam Sales have left me tight on time. :O
The AI is a problem as you can never rely on it. You are always being fought by it. Yukari and Mitsuru can never be good main healers as their infamous Ice/Wind Break and Marin Karin are also on Heal/Support tactic, wasting turns and mana. Don't even get me started on topping off the MC who's at 2/3 health while 2 are near dead against an enemy fond of party-wide attacks...
Just don't go into it wanting to hate it and you should be good.
Unless it's on Wii U, in that case fuck that noise.
You're going to be disappointed if you don't expect them to continue the
Nyarlathotep
No matter what platform P5 is on, people will be upset:
- The rabid lunatics who shit up every Persona thread will be pissed off if it's not on a Nintendo system, because apparently at this point it's destined to be because of reasons. But no big loss; they weren't going to play the game anyway.
- If it's on a Nintendo system then a lot of Europe will be annoyed due to the region lock.
-- If it's 3DS, an even larger group of people will be upset because they want to see a graphical improvement on P4, which you won't get on 3DS.
-- If it's on Wii U, the butthurt will die down in America once they see the game and it looks awesome; just gotta suck it up and buy the console.
- If it's on a handheld, people will be upset because it's not on a console.
- If it's on PS3, people will be disappointed it isn't on PS4.
- If it's on PS4, people will be disappointed it isn't on PS3.
- PC gamers will be port begging if it's not on PC.
- If it's exclusively on mobile, Xbox 360, or Xbox One, everyone will be mad.
I think I've covered pretty much all bases there. The only way people aren't going to get mad is if the game is on every platform.
Just don't go into it wanting to hate it and you should be good.
Unless it's on Wii U, in that case fuck that noise.
You didn't see me when Arena and Golden were announced. I was hyped as all fuck.
And just look at me now.
I think they'll continue that aspect, but only that aspect. No Shadow Workers, Investigation Team etc.
And I'm fine with that. More than that in fact, because it might lead to an actually decent narrative.
Considering that you even love True Story, I'm inclined to agree, haha.
buddha0991
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They should work on not having them hamper the pace, disrupting the narrative and existing in a bubble though
Shadow Operatives are totally in, I think. But that doesn't mean the P3 cast has to be. Investigation Team is out for sure. There's just nowhere to go with them after Persona 4, and Persona 4 Arena proved that.
I disagree that they hamper the pace or disrupt the narrative for the most part, but yeah it would be nice if they stopped existing in a bubble. Incorporate them into the story a bit more, like how Persona 4 Golden handled Adachi's social link in the later ranks. And absolutely NO more social links like Marie's....
Social links developments that are actually brought up in the main storyline would be awesome. It's probably out of Atlus' reach though.
How so, I thought the game ended
with them "officially" getting back together
Blick Winkel
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I wouldn't mind the plot line made by Arena be continued in like a P5 arena while P5 does its own thing, but it will probably just be the main thing in P5, then again that would require the cast of Arena to return seeing as this is now their new mission
They made Catherine, then they built an engine, then they probably spent another year in pre-production, and then Aeana said Index' financial drama has pushed the reveal back on multiple occasions.
So all that is why it's taken so long. The actual design of the game very likely has nothing to do with it.
If Shadow Operatives are in I'm going to be mega sadface.
Yeah that happened, but it was pretty lousy. Outside of Yu and Naoto, there just wasn't much of a purpose for being there even in Persona 4 Arena itself. It's a side-effect of Persona 4's story mode being very self-contained in contrast to the previous games.
Count on it. It'd be extremely poor writing to introduce the Shadow Operatives and then have them drop off the face of the planet.
What else is there to do?
The Rock, Sailor Moon, be The People's Kawaii Champion.
That is exactly the kind of cameo roles I expect actually.
Can that work the same way? A detective agency is completely inconspicuous; A "Shadow Operative" is something one would need to inquire about.
Still waiting for that one big moment where the Shadow Operatives and the IT sit down at a place and discuss things with the cast from the earlier games, if they do indeed follow through with the Arena setup.
I like to consider this a best case scenario. I'd settle for some cameos from either cast if 5 deals with the Arena story with a whole new cast.
3 featured a group that knew exactly what personas were, and eventually found out what shadows were. 4 reversed this really, where they knew what shadows were earlier, but didn't really understand the idea of personas. I wonder which direction 5 with a new cast would move in? Not to mention if they're going to change Igor all things considered.
As the makers of ME3 decided, SPECULATION IS FUN!
Nah.
They're hidden. In the shadows, like.
If P5 is all Shadow Operatives then the narrative already has me somewhat uninterested. Not that that would ruin the game of course, because P3's narrative is pretty awful and I still love the game. But I'd rather it had a P2 level narrative.
I'm sure they could play it off in a similar way "Oh you guys have Personas. So do we, here let us help you".
If anything Naoto shows up as a mysterious detective
on her robot bike
They had the Nanjo Group in P2 on top of extensive P1 characters, so it's not unreasonable to have the Shadow Operatives in P5.
You can do cameos and such without destroying or taking over the narrative.
I can understand respecting the original voice actor, but Igor has already been through 2 voice actors. I could see them replacing him.
This is a fair point.
Blick Winkel
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We should all know by now that Persona 5 will be renamed Persona All-Stars Battle Royale and will star the cast of P1-4 with one new character
They had the Nanjo Group in P2 on top of extensive P1 characters, so it's not unreasonable to have the Shadow Operatives in P5.
You can do cameos and such without destroying or taking over the narrative.
I agree. I'm guess I'm just curious how they play that as a minimal element of the story (assuming it is indeed minimal) considering, you know, what they are.
buddha0991
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Most of the character development in p4 happened in those links and in scenes outside of the s links they would revert back to their slink rank 1 selves, it was a step back from 3 in that regard.
That seems like a stretch. I'm not the exact same person when I'm with a friend, or a group of friends, or my parents.
I mean I'm behaving differently in a different setting. That's human.
I thought I was the only one who felt this way. It's one of the things I didn't like about P4 compared to P3. Other than facing their shadows, none of the main characters have any character development outside their social links.
Please tell me you have gone to the doctor.
Ew. Have you tried using poisma on it?
Blick Winkel
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Anyone think well get another Antishadow Weapon or anything else nonhuman like Teddie.
We'll get another Koromaru, except this time it'll be a cat.
Please, no more toasters. Aigis was cool, Labrys was pushing it, and the Robot bicycle was the nail in the coffin.
tintin1029
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Highly doubt we won't. We all need some awkward comic relief in our lives
Yes.
Motorcycle-lad isn't canon.
But Aigis and Labby can't actually make toast. They're useless!
tintin1029
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Yeah the Lolis of P5 will find them worthless
Yeah, anything from that Naoto story/manga whatever the hell it is, is non-canon dreck.
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