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Persona Community Thread |OT3| Your thread title sucks, Yukiko.
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P1's art was Kaneko. It's his older style.
Red The Hunter
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Soejima did the ingame character portraits.
But Kaneko is the one who drew the character designs.
Not for Persona 1 iirc.
Think of all the garbage fan art I wouldn't have drawn!
Yeah, Soejima didn't do the portraits for the P1 cast. He did, however, draw some of the NPCs.
Anyway, there's a huge leap in quality between the IS and the EP cast which has probably to do with the fact that Soejima got better and that they tasked Doi with coloring the portraits.
Anyway, there's a huge leap in quality between the IS and the EP cast which has probably to do with the fact that Soejima got better and that they tasked Doi with coloring the portraits.
What. The. Frack.
Really?
I really like many of those
This look like prototype of current Atlus go-to artist style (Soejima and the SMT4 guy) than Kaneko
Btw found this while googling pic lol
There's some damn good looking SMT art out there.
Oh, wait, character designs. Le damn.
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The way that Microsoft Sam voice say's "Waifu" is killing me.
No one's got more Punkitude than PersonaGAF.
I like Kaneko and Soejima equally, but for very different reasons. (the short version is unique and creepy awesome vs. pretty, sleek and stylish)
cj_iwakura
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I think it's his evolution from SMT1's art style to the dollish style he became known for around P2/the PS1 remakes of SMT.
These never fail to amaze.
buddha0991
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I was in this latest one!
Btw found this while googling pic lol
Minako was a way better character than Minato.
Shame she's not canon.
PS SMT1 redesign was sexy as hell..
I think Kaneko's best work is Digital Devil Saga playable cast, they all looked so frigging cool.. varied in personality, yet so futuristic and unique and stand identifiable as his style without looking overpowering (like his persona 2 work).. Incredible.
Yessssssss.
She's always canon in our heart.
Best blank state Persona's MC.
I miss your Serph's avy.
Shame Kaneko's Strange Journey works looks like massive stepback.
On the one hand, you're right.
On the other hand, this is like a knife to Iwakura's heart.
Yeah I think Kaneko's art style was perfect for DDS since the setting complements the character designs very nicely and the characters have a fair bit of expression going on despite the doll like quality of the art.
Really, I think Kaneko's artstyle just works for all the Megaten titles except for Persona. The setting and the characters there are just too expressive and clash too much with the more traditional art style he has going on.
Really, I think Kaneko's artstyle just works for all the Megaten titles except for Persona. The setting and the characters there are just too expressive and clash too much with the more traditional art style he has going on.
Well. His Strange Journey stuff was pretty uninspiring, even if there's nothing bad about it. His post-artstyle change stuff (Read: Persona 2) tends to be wacky and lacking in the fashion department.
Anything prior to his artstyle change (such as the classic SMT trilogy) is firmly drenched in late 80s esque anime tropes. That being good or bad depends entirely on how you feel about the style from the late 80s/early 90s.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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The Demonica armor from strange journey looks amazing.
The helm was hella crap IMO
Maybe its not supposed to being cool, mecha style.. but still its looked uninspiring for me, I see better helmet at Chronicle of Riddick.
Red The Hunter
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Yeah, to be honest I thought he was at his best with Nocturne and DDS. Where I felt his art was able to express itself and look cool and stylish to boot without it coming off as creepy and souless.
And I will say this....
I think Kaneko is the only person in the world who can frolic through flowers and still look awesome while doing it.
And I will say this....
I think Kaneko is the only person in the world who can frolic through flowers and still look awesome while doing it.
I think it's a testament to how good Nocturne's art style is that people still remember it fondly. Which is unusual given it's poor performance initially in Japan.
That said, having grew up on sci-fi that directly inspired the late 80s/90s anime art, I have a preference for the older games (and SMT IV)
That said, having grew up on sci-fi that directly inspired the late 80s/90s anime art, I have a preference for the older games (and SMT IV)
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I liied the helmet
I think Nocturne is his best work (raidou is no slouch either ). I'd like to his art again but in something totally new. A new devil summoner or SMT V would be nice but I'd like to see his art in more non megaten ganes. Or at least a radically different megaten game that doesn't use his older art style at all(aka all new demon designs instead of reusing old shit).
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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How much was Atlus expecting it to do? Looking at the sales #s now, the only Atlus game that did signficantly more than OG nocturne throughout the entire PS2 gen is P4.
I think they expected P4 numbers, actually. I'm not entirely certain on this tho.
I do recall Aeana mentioning how seamless the additions from Maniax were to the game.
Poetic.Injustice
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Cel shaded games tend to hold up pretty well long after their release.
She's always canon in our heart.
Best blank state Persona's MC.
I miss your Serph's avy.
Shame Kaneko's Strange Journey works looks like massive stepback.
In my heart Minato never existed.
Too far?
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Well SMT used to go toe to toe with FF and DQ iirc. So maybe they were hoping for big numbers, I doubt they lost money or anything like that though. I wonder why SMT lost popularity during the PS1 era. I'm assuming that Square demolished them with FF7 and they just couldn't compete. But even Chrono trigger was above anything Atlus was putting out at the time.
I'm trying to picture Nocturne without the Matador or the Labyrinth...and I just can't. They fit in so well.
Regarding PS2 era cel-shaded games, does anyone remember Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter? I haven't played it in awhile but I've warmed up to it over the years and for some reason I get a similar vibe from the art that I do from SMT's. I dunno, maybe it's just me?
I think not having an actual mainline game for the PSX hurt a lot of the momentum they had going off the Super Famicom games. They were never going to hit Squeenix levels, but they still could have been serious contenders.
You monster.
It's your choice to be as delusional as you want!
cj_iwakura
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Pretty much. I regard his work in Nocturne as his best, and the handful of art he did in SJ far more inspired than the plethora of designs in Devil Survivor.
Now that's how a lady dresses.
And that static image conveys more than the countless shifting expressions a Devil Survivor character goes through.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Just took a look at the megaten wiki and god damn I thought KH was bad with all these fucking spinoffs. Yeah that had to hurt them big time. Not localizing games probably hurt them too but I'm not sure if something like SMT would have been able to come over during the 90's.
So that guy who just draws really good (And often somewhat suggestive) pictures of Naoto has drawn one of how I guess he thinks she'll look in Dancing All Night. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was pretty much right. It seems accurate to me.
The Devil Survivor art is properly shit, to be fair.
Oh god
Hey, at least all the Megaten spinoffs are in different continuities and completely irrelevant to one another!
I think they could have exported them, but considering what Atlus USA did to the first Persona, I'm not sure if SMT would have survived translation back then.
And Yasuda's stuff looks okay-to-decent when someone can reign him in on the character designs (The DeSu1 protag has one of my favorite Megaten designs.)
SMT is basically a series made entirely of spin-offs.
cj_iwakura
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I don't totally hate it. I like the normal looking characters(Io to an extent, Jungo, Gin, Airi), but the ridiculous ones totally throw me off.
Funny, none of his Durarara characters look that outlandish.
cj_iwakura
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Well, they are all devil summoners, I guess at least one of their demons is a chiropractor.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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