BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Oh, I was wondering what happened. I just assumed it was still coming but the info in it was mainly useless.
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Persona Community Thread |OT3| Your thread title sucks, Yukiko.
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Did the other gameplay videos show the Burst gauge? Did I just somehow completely miss seeing that each time I watched the preview? Anyway, I wonder if All Out Attack will be a Burst skills (for those who haven't played EO, the Burst gauge fills up as you fight kinda like a fighting game to let you do special attacks).
Ah, shit. That's awesome!
It's not only you. The Mitsuru/Yosuke trailers were the first time that I noticed the Burst Gauge as well. I don't pay attention to details that much, but the thing just kind of jumped out at me.
buddha0991
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Meanwhile in Arena, the nurses
I was wondering what people would think of this idea...
What if Persona 5 had a PvP multiplayer system? In the same idea as Pokemon.
A person could control a party (of characters from the game or older Persona game) or just the main character with their custom Personas for the main character. Another idea would be to have groups of four different people for each party and have them face another group of four.
It certainly isn't on the top of my list of wants for P5, but I think it could be done well enough to be good.
What if Persona 5 had a PvP multiplayer system? In the same idea as Pokemon.
A person could control a party (of characters from the game or older Persona game) or just the main character with their custom Personas for the main character. Another idea would be to have groups of four different people for each party and have them face another group of four.
It certainly isn't on the top of my list of wants for P5, but I think it could be done well enough to be good.
I'd love to see Persona have at least some multiplayer elements, co-op or multiplayer I'd like to see it.
Maybe a character in a party of 4 against another party of 4, not sure how well a turn based battle system would work online though.
Haha, I know right? And here I was, all worried that they would butcher character characterizations. Yosuke got some fantastic treatment (at the moment anyway).
Today's forecast: rain with a chance of pain!
A competitive PvP game mode for Persona is one of my pipe dreams. I don't expect them to do it, but if they were to pull it off it could be amazing.
Yeah, my biggest concern would be the battle system design. Its largely optimized towards PvE, and may have trouble working PvP without something significant.
I would rather this happen in mainline SMT or, more preferably, its own spinoff than in Persona. It really doesn't fit with Persona's themes, and they'd have to re-balance a good deal of skills and mechanics if they wanted it to be taken seriously.
The Persona 3 Alpha videos showed they were originally thinking of having a real time battle system weren't they? Maybe the limitations of PS2 changed their minds, now that they're working on PS3 they're considering the real time battle system again.
There was a time when I was for the idea of competitive multiplayer in a Persona 5, but now I don't think I would want that. The dev team would have to take their time balancing the game and adding the required online elements, which would take time away from other things they could be spending their time on towards the single player experience of the game.
If balance wasn't an issue they would concern themselves with, then it would become a throwaway mode that people would play for a bit and stop because of how broken or crazy it became (which would probably be endearing at first, but annoying later). Plus, a mode with little polish would only reflect badly on the game.
I'm fine with the idea outside of the context of development resources; a good, competitive multiplayer element to the game with good online, ranking systems and all of that stuff in addition to a fantastic single player would be great. It's just that the multiplayer would have to be good, and not just forced multiplayer because they can.
Its still a huge matter of balance. The matter of how abilities work and the general combat design are all very geared towards PvE. To change up things and balance it to both is no easy feat. Even real time would have to be balanced very carefully, maybe even moreso since you have another unknown to deal with.
Makoto Yuki
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I dunno about PvP, but I would love to see some kind of optional Demon/Dark Souls online component in P5. Imagine running through a dungeon, and seeing hints left around by other players like "Shadows weak against Ice" or other uninspired, but hopefully useful, commentary. Not really needed though.
buddha0991
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This would make much more sense in an SMT game with fully customizable parties and such, but everyone would just have demons that null/absorb/reflect almost everyting and almost for sure it would devolve into Megidolaon/Antichthon spam.
And I'd imagine a lot of people would be turned off if they suddenly changed how half the game works. I doubt they have enough experience with multiplayer anyways.
That's pretty much what P4G did with its Vox Populi system, except for the elements outside of the dungeons. Hints for actual dungeons would mostly be useless unless the dungeon structure was massively overhauled.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I think you would need to look towards smt for multiplayer IMO. If it happens I think it'll be there first. I just don't see them taking out the time to put multiplayer in a turn based console RPG. A persona Pokémon clone could work but one again that would be SMTs thing. A non suckish mmo could work.
Well obviously it would have to be balanced around that concept
I think the prototype was still turn based. It was more like a seamless transition between dungeon roaming and the battle system. Nevertheless it look extremely fluid imo.
Personally I'd like personas to have their old signature attacks in this installment. Like Matador should have Red Capote, Kumbhanda gets Gorge, Hell Biker gets Hell Exhaust/Hell Burner etc. Maybe some of them can be exclusive and others can get passed down.
Also it would be cool if there was a strength/magic split with elemental attacks, kind of like pokemon. What I'm thinking of is Hell Burner could be a Fire based attack that runs off the strength stat/can crit/gets boosted with Power Charge instead of Mind Charge. Maybe there could be various attacks like that.
Also it would be cool if there was a strength/magic split with elemental attacks, kind of like pokemon. What I'm thinking of is Hell Burner could be a Fire based attack that runs off the strength stat/can crit/gets boosted with Power Charge instead of Mind Charge. Maybe there could be various attacks like that.
Makoto Yuki
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Here I am with a sealed copy of P4G without a Vita. What did that do exactly? Sounds like something I killed in Bioshock.
Optional dungeon hints would be appreciated, if just to know what kind of rare items are on certain floors, and what kinda of spells/persona to bring to certain bosses. But we don't know much about P5, so anything is a possibility. What I was trying to get at is if there are online components in P5 I hope they are subtle, possibly community based. PvP sounds awesome, but balance would be an issue.
buddha0991
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Social features of P4G:
When I speak of dungeon hints, I think about how they were in P3 and P4 and since floors were randomized, those hints wouldn't work. I think the Vox Populi system's method of conveying a general idea of what other people are fusing is good enough for bosses; it wouldn't make sense to straight up have the answer to win any boss fight via hints since the battles were turn-based in the past.
But yeah, we don't know how Persona 5 will be so an in-dungeon hint system could work, if the dungeons were designed to accommodate them.
Beast Eye/Dragon Eye obviously shouldn't be allowed for the players
buddha0991
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Finally giving it to players in SMTIV in the form of Guardian's Eye but puting it behind a dlc paywall with the super ultimate boss which is almost, if not impossible to kill without skills you can only have access to with some of the previous dlc super bosses is hilarious.
That remix of "Like a Dream Come True" in Yosuke's trailer is pretty awesome. It starts out fairly simple with just an odd synth, but once the guitar starts up, it's one of the best remixes I've heard of it yet.
Also, Yosuke is awesome in that trailer. He's such a bro. I still to this day can't understand why people don't see the good in his character.
Also, Yosuke is awesome in that trailer. He's such a bro. I still to this day can't understand why people don't see the good in his character.
I can see it and still hate him!
Because jokes or over-the-top behavior and teenage male insecurity makes you a homophobe, dont'cha know.
Damn straight that's the point. Even if I had stuck to my guns over the chibi, platform rage, and so on, the music would have had me changing tune real quick. Because the stuff they're putting out for this is amazing.
buddha0991
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I don't think I actively hate any Persona main character. I like Yuka Ayase, I like Reiji Kido, I might not love Ken Amada but I think he can be redeemed, Marie's slink and bonus thing were mediocre to crap, but I think Marie herself is an ok character, and Labrys is pretty damn cool. Sho'Nuff look stupid but his moveset looks ace.
Hate is probably too strong of a word, he has some good lines here and there. He is a dumb jerk with a stupid face though and he always will be.
This is how I feel about it. I'm not doing backflips over how much I love Chie or anything, but she's still a great character.
buddha0991
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I even find redeeming things in Kashiwagi and Hanako, namely their friendship.
Well their friendship is just hilarious.
What about Nozomi from P3? I think his slink is kind of crazy but also he sucks the most major ass.
What about Ms. Ideal.
buddha0991
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in IS she actually believed in everything and wanted to prevent it all. She too, is just a victim of the Crawling Chaos' manipulation. In EP she manages to stay out of it
The only characters that I actually factually dislike are Marie and probably Sho.
Everyone else ranges from 'fine' to 'amazing'.
The only truly hated character in the Persona franchise.
MOVIE INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!
cj_iwakura
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Yep. Never forget.
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