cj_iwakura
Member
At least it's an adorable abomination.You have to admit it's kind of charming in its wackiness.
I should know, I'm replaying it.
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Persona Community Thread |OT4| The Golden Number
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I should know, I'm replaying it.
Well. This is going to take awhile, I guess.
Also, I may have been wrong about Kenji. He's still sorta insensitive and an idiot, but if what Clara (My FeMC name) says is true, sounds like he's being taken advantage of in this relationship he has going on with Ms. Inoue.
Of course, why he needs to date a teacher when he attends a Private School of beautiful girls who are not Hanako I don't know.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
At least it's an adorable abomination.
Shit is racist, why does the black guy have to dance.
But I suppose there is something charming about the audacity the localization team had trying to make it palatable to the west.
Man, I feel for you. Must be maddening.
I really wish they put out the PSP version of EP just for the sake of consistency. Too bad the PSP was dead in the west by the time it was announced.
Edit: Wait, I'm confused. Which is your favorite version of Persona? The PS1 localization or PSP version.
SloaneRisette
Member
I'm making a note here, mild success.
Shit is racist, why does the black guy have to dance.
But I suppose there is something charming about the audacity the localization team had trying to make it palatable to the west.
This is like the third time I've posted this, buuuuuut
Yeah, Mark being made black was probably the most obvious and weirdest change. But yeah, I just find it sort of cute exactly how bizarrely mangled the whole thing came out, and since we have a proper translation now I can kind of appreciate it as an artifact.
buddha0991
Member
Shit is racist, why does the black guy have to dance.
But I suppose there is something charming about the audacity the localization team had trying to make it palatable to the west.
Man, I feel for you. Must be maddening.
I really wish they put out the PSP version of EP just for the sake of consistency. Too bad the PSP was dead in the west by the time it was announced.
Just Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, but the PSP version is the perfect version of it, and I would say, the best Persona portable port except for P4G IMO, unlike P1, P2IS and P3P, they got everything right, they didn't fuck with the original's balance or anything and the stuff they added is all just awesome..... ;_;
Makoto Yuki
Banned
This is like the third time I've posted this, buuuuuut
Yeah, Mark being made black was probably the most obvious and weirdest change. But yeah, I just find it sort of cute exactly how bizarrely mangled the whole thing came out, and since we have a proper translation now I can kind of appreciate it as an artifact.
You're right, it makes for an interesting... ahem... mark on the Persona franchises' history. So I'll give it that. Though I prefer games to be as close to the source material as possible.
That only make's it more tragic. I mean they put out dumb Final Fantasy III on the PSP digital download only. Why not put out the PSP version of P2EP as download only at the very least.
snow in jamaica
Member
it's kind of great that reiji already had those american flag gloves
Well yeah. The situation would be different if we didn't have a proper translation of the PSP port, definitely.
buddha0991
Member
Happy birthday Swedesu!
Makoto Yuki
Banned
Yup. There is something cool about how the localization team tried to "westernize" Revelations: Persona. Only for Persona to be released again years later properly. I guess it shows that the Western audience doesn't really care for overt localization, they want authenticity.
Yep! Complete with stupid hat!
snow in jamaica
Member
if p5 doesn't give me slime mara after a mara fusion accident i'll turn into a shadow
Final boss in P1P beat me. Remembered I'd have to go through that whole trap room again and decided to turn off my Vita and try again tomorrow. That dungeon took forever to get through.
It was weird, I lost when I still had two people left but they both had status ailments. I guess it's a fail state if none of your party members can make an action, even if they're still alive.
It was weird, I lost when I still had two people left but they both had status ailments. I guess it's a fail state if none of your party members can make an action, even if they're still alive.
This is like the third time I've posted this, buuuuuut
Yeah, Mark being made black was probably the most obvious and weirdest change. But yeah, I just find it sort of cute exactly how bizarrely mangled the whole thing came out, and since we have a proper translation now I can kind of appreciate it as an artifact.
I will never not find this funny. Saying it out loud makes me laugh even harder.
Ouch, tough break. Did you lose to the
Magical form? That version's a lot harder, i'd say.
Yeah, it was the
second form. I was plugging away at her pretty good but then she cast that fucking Butterfly spell at a bad time for me and that was it.
My MC is 52 right now. I think I can beat the boss without any other adjustments, just need a little luck and some tighter management of my dudes. Really don't want to grind 10 more levels :lol. At this point I'm ready to be done with the combat on this game.
Haha fair enough
You're right, you should be able to take
her
she's blue, pound her with magic. if she's purple, physical attacks (guns!) are the way to go.
And how about that final boss's appearance. It's certainly something, haha.
Yeah, figured that out after healing her a bunch with magic and flipping out :lol. Guns were my main source of damage too. never was actually able to hit her with more than a couple magic attacks because she either switched back quickly or cast that "lol idiot, you can't hit me with anything" spell.
Oh, dude, yeah. Yeah D:
legit thought that the boss was Mara with Maki's face in for a second :lol
Maki is one fucked up girl.
Maki is one fucked up girl.
The Japanese government to my understanding is really wanting to ramp up the number of English teachers and whatnot in Japan in preparation for the Olympics in 2020 so they can have native guides able to help tourists and whatnot, so I personally suspect this will be one of the easier years for people to get into JET.
I'm guessing you applied as an ALT? I was interviewed for a CIR position last week myself and found the interview process to be pleasantly smooth, which I'm hearing was also the case with a lot of other applicants I know as well. Fun times!
I'm guessing you applied as an ALT? I was interviewed for a CIR position last week myself and found the interview process to be pleasantly smooth, which I'm hearing was also the case with a lot of other applicants I know as well. Fun times!
Ready ready ready for the take off ♪
Let's rise heading to the unknown world ♪
So don't let go of that hand, buddy ♪
Ready ready ready for the take off ♪
Grab this connection you have a hold of ♪
To the place where the dream is the goal ♪
idk either, lol. but congrats all the same!
Yeah, it's like nails on a chalkboard.
ALL YOOOOURS! PURSEOWNAH! (the meme made real)
And I might be in the minority here, but I think Naoto VA is terrible. At least, in comparison to her original VA and anime dub voice. It's really lacking.
Wait. Is Golden's VA different? I didn't notice, guess I don't remember her original voice. >.> I don't think it's terrible. It's not one of the outstanding voices, but it's fine. It's there. Except the battles. Then it's terrible.
Wait. Is Golden's VA different? I didn't notice, guess I don't remember her original voice. >.> I don't think it's terrible. It's not one of the outstanding voices, but it's fine. It's there. Except the battles. Then it's terrible.
No it's the same actress, I just meant in comparison to her original JP VA.
Oh, gotcha. I haven't hear the original JP voice. I feel like Naoto's voice in both the game and anime are lacking a bit. Kind of a shame, probably contributes to people generally finding her somewhat unmemorable when the rest of the cast is so good.
That and you just don't get as much time with her as you do with everyone else. Plus her whole reason for being there just seems to be for repeating information you already know :lol
I dunno, I feel like the actress herself just isn't very good
To start, she doesn't even try to put on a masculine voice nor does she try to sound young. Any line that involves any sort of heavy emotions from Naoto just falls flat on its face because the VA sucks at inflections.
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn does a much better job at portraying Naoto. She isn't perfect, but she gets the very basic component of sounding androgynous down, and she's way better at emotion.
To start, she doesn't even try to put on a masculine voice nor does she try to sound young. Any line that involves any sort of heavy emotions from Naoto just falls flat on its face because the VA sucks at inflections.
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn does a much better job at portraying Naoto. She isn't perfect, but she gets the very basic component of sounding androgynous down, and she's way better at emotion.
Red The Hunter
Member
Sorry if I'm a little late on this, but I wanted to speak my mind about it. I'll say that PS1 Eternal Punishment localization is not bad, and kinda of enjoyable in a so bad, it's good kind of way. But yeah the localization does show some awkwardness. Mostly through some of choices they made with using some of the Revelations: Persona continuity like using Lunarville, which sounds silly next to Sumaru City and when they are in Japan. Along with keeping Nate and Ellen's first names but changing their last names to their cannon ones.
Along with the sometimes the voiced dialogue would come off as more unintentionally hilarious with Nate and Ellen being the worst offenders, and Tatsuya taking the cake with one his lines that make him sound so doofy and like a dork. I would say the rest are fine with Baofu, Katsuya, and Ulala being the better acted. Maya is eh...alright, she a silent protagonist in the game, and while she does a have lines in the form of battle quotes. They're alright, nothing great, but nothing atrocious.
If I had to compared it to something ATLUS did (I'm just making a point here alright), is that the localization is like Tail Concerto. Another game they localized a couple years before Eternal Punishment, where it's actually decent in terms of localization, but has some awkwardness to the script that just can't go unnoticed. While there is few of the actors like in EP that actually pretty decent at the roles their given, you do have a few roles that either sounded very bored sounding, or over the top. Funny thing is that both Tail Concerto and EP were done by the same voice production company that did Persona 3 & 4 (PCB Productions), and actually they both share a few of the same actors.
Maya Amano (Lani Minella) shares the same voice with Waffle Ryebread (Seriously that's his name)
And Ulala Serizawa (Amanda Winn Lee) shares the same voice with Alicia Priss
I would say that this was major turning point for ATLUS localization, along with Nocturne. Where it showed that they knew it was better to be faithful to the material, then try to do with what they did in Revelations: Persona, and try to take any semblance of what made the material so special in the first place, and change it into something it's not. Why do you think that ATLUS is respected by so many people now. It's that they have respect for the material, and only know when to change something to make it flow better in English when need be.
I would say you should play EP at some point, because it's enjoyable if you go into it with the mindset of being an older game, and enjoying it for what it's worth. Because I enjoyed the characters and story, which made up for the so-so gameplay. Which I'll have to admit, is kinda not always great.
Along with the sometimes the voiced dialogue would come off as more unintentionally hilarious with Nate and Ellen being the worst offenders, and Tatsuya taking the cake with one his lines that make him sound so doofy and like a dork. I would say the rest are fine with Baofu, Katsuya, and Ulala being the better acted. Maya is eh...alright, she a silent protagonist in the game, and while she does a have lines in the form of battle quotes. They're alright, nothing great, but nothing atrocious.
If I had to compared it to something ATLUS did (I'm just making a point here alright), is that the localization is like Tail Concerto. Another game they localized a couple years before Eternal Punishment, where it's actually decent in terms of localization, but has some awkwardness to the script that just can't go unnoticed. While there is few of the actors like in EP that actually pretty decent at the roles their given, you do have a few roles that either sounded very bored sounding, or over the top. Funny thing is that both Tail Concerto and EP were done by the same voice production company that did Persona 3 & 4 (PCB Productions), and actually they both share a few of the same actors.
Maya Amano (Lani Minella) shares the same voice with Waffle Ryebread (Seriously that's his name)
And Ulala Serizawa (Amanda Winn Lee) shares the same voice with Alicia Priss
I would say that this was major turning point for ATLUS localization, along with Nocturne. Where it showed that they knew it was better to be faithful to the material, then try to do with what they did in Revelations: Persona, and try to take any semblance of what made the material so special in the first place, and change it into something it's not. Why do you think that ATLUS is respected by so many people now. It's that they have respect for the material, and only know when to change something to make it flow better in English when need be.
I would say you should play EP at some point, because it's enjoyable if you go into it with the mindset of being an older game, and enjoying it for what it's worth. Because I enjoyed the characters and story, which made up for the so-so gameplay. Which I'll have to admit, is kinda not always great.
Lollipop Dave
Member
I just want to say that Waffle Ryebread is one of the greatest character names I've ever came across!
Just want to put it out there that I didn't realize that Naoto's a
until I got to the
part of the anime, because of Romi Park.
Romi Park (Naoto's JP VA) got a knack of
, so it was a pleasant surprise for me.
Now whenever I watch Kill La Kill and see
, can't help but imagine that Naoto is doing that instead.
female
secret lab
Romi Park (Naoto's JP VA) got a knack of
voicing male characters e.g Edward Elric (Full Metal Alchemist), Touma (Shining Force Exa), Komatsu (Toriko) and lots more
Now whenever I watch Kill La Kill and see
Kiruyin Ragyo wrecking shit, with that signature Romi Park yell
All of the scooter attacks are completely terrible.
Kanji laying the smack down with his bicycle was funny though.
Do you guys think they will keep those post-all out attack finishers e.g Twin Dragons, Beauty & the Beast etc for P5 and beyond?
If they do, I hope they look better than the P4G ones.
All the new stuff they added to battles in P4G was really bad, in my opinion. The scooter attacks, all the new Rise stuff (Particularly the pink skull cloud in AOAs), the character team up moves... It was all random chance stuff, that when activated made the game way too easy. It all looked really awful too.
Red The Hunter
Member
Actually that's his bicycle, since he younger than Rise and Naoto. He doesn't have a scooter license, but still funny that he smacks down the enemies with his bike.
Whoops. Slipped my mind for a moment there. Thanks for the correction.
I'm personally hoping for P3FES's Fusion spells to make a comeback.
Young Magus
Junior Member
Enjoy the Persona concert in my absence!
Just make em like they were in DDS. Combining different skills to make a new one, seems to me like that wouldn't be to hard to implement.
I mean Agi+Garu= A flame tornado, this stuff writes itself.
Good! As much as I love Japan, my main gripe (wanting more sociable/less working hours) shouldn't be an issue for those on the JET program.
...Just don't bet on big city lights!
Were you not successful in your application?
cj_iwakura
Member
The commonly accepted theory, which the GBA Temp thread backs up, is that the coding was hell, and AtlusJP were unable to help due to being on other project.
Yeah, Butterfly Swarm is a b. If she doesn't do that, you're golden. It comes down to luck, more often than not. Every time I've beaten her, she never cast it.
Lollipop Dave
Member
I forgot about this, it's pretty good and one of my favourite things about some old rpgs. Fusing spells in Tales of Symphonia was pretty fun, iirc. For some reason the mechanic of fusing spells though seems so 90's to me though.
Who needs more sociable hours when you've got games! I always thought you were on the JET program.
LelouchViBritannia
Member
My Neogaf account has finally been activated.
Hey guys, I'm a long time follower of the various Persona threads on neogaf.
i'm so glad that i'm able to finally contribute to this awesome community.
Nice to meet you all.
Hey guys, I'm a long time follower of the various Persona threads on neogaf.
i'm so glad that i'm able to finally contribute to this awesome community.
Nice to meet you all.