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Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair! [NO PQ OR P4U SPOILERS!]
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What kind of dating convention is that...?
Well, thanks for clearing that up. Glad to know that that's actually this Thursday's issue, so what will be within will be known sooner. Though, I'm oddly disappointed since I was slightly hoping it could finally contain some P5 stuff, but that ain't happening.
Wonder if we'll know more about P4D in it...? I kinda doubt that, too, 'cause there would have had to be something about P4D in the tease, if not for a leak. It'll most likely just be about P4U2, PQ and P3M#2, as advertised.
This is the image:
This is the link.
I know Famitsu isn't the only magazine to do a skewed dating convention like that because I've totally seen Western magazines do it, too, but your guess is as good as mine as to the logic. Might be a sell-by date for newsstands? Never seen a place that doesn't stock new issues as they come out, but I'm lost on other ideas.
And yeah, that link confirms it:
And yeah, that link confirms it:
Roger that. Good to know.
Based on the tease there:
- 4 pages dedicated to "SECRET!!" (i.e. new P4AU character)
- 10 pages dedicated to Persona Q
So that leaves at least 6 pages for other stuff, including P3M #2. There's the Megumi Ogata interview to account for, which would at least be 2 pages. It sounds doable, with big illustrations padding some pages out.
Which basically means P4D totally won't be in it.
Gotta hastily rewrite all those press releases they got from Atlus on all of those things one more time!
Seriously, it's ridiculous. Be glad you don't read Japanese. The majority of that last Persona Q special they ran like a month and a half ago was a rehash of all of the existing PR for the game that had been released, often using the exact same wording. Ten pages of content and I think I got like four slim paragraphs at most of information on my writeup. Will be genuinely surprised if I go much more beyond that this time around.
Seriously, it's ridiculous. Be glad you don't read Japanese. The majority of that last Persona Q special they ran like a month and a half ago was a rehash of all of the existing PR for the game that had been released, often using the exact same wording. Ten pages of content and I think I got like four slim paragraphs at most of information on my writeup. Will be genuinely surprised if I go much more beyond that this time around.
Rise/Yuna combo is great.
Oh my god oh my god oh my god
The idea of an English build excites me for some reason
Willsmith1991
Neo Member
Well, i think Yukari and Aigis are equally involved with P3MC. Still i think Aigis's love is far more romantic then Yukari's. The Answer showed us that both Yukari and Aigis loved MC but even Yukari herself said the Aigis suffered more then her over his loss so...
Disagree.
Personally, even on her S Link, I didn't think that Aigis' feelings were romantic.
Let's be honest, all of the titles are supremely lame. None are remotely clever or descriptive of the characters to any extent.
Lollipop Dave
Member
Ha, I said something similar in IRC,
Adachi
Maybe it has more relevance in Japan? I don't know the differences between the original and the localised versions well enough.
RedGraveXIII
Neo Member
I prefer the Yukari pairing myself. It's not a knock against Aigis(best P3 "girl") by any means, it's just that summing them up as "being in love" kind of cheapens their relationship imo. What they have is beyond love I think, like they were destined to meet each other or something
I also really dig Elizabeth's relationship with Makoto, seems to be similar to Aigis's what with "The Meaning of Life 101" and all. So I thought Elizabeth's story arc in Arena was awesome.
I still need to watch the P4 anime to see what the cabbage thing is all about. I bet it's as disappointingly simple as him having a scene where he buys some lol.
Also that supposed final character slot has me super intrigued. All I'm going to say is that I hope it's who I think it is, regardless of whatever asspull Atlus has to do to get said character in the game.
I'M SORRY I'VE FAILED IN MY DUTIES AS A TRANSLATOR TO CONVEY WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THOSE TITLES TO YOU, DANTIS! FORGIVE ME I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU HATE MY WORK!
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Real talk, like I mentioned before, they have a lot of charm in Japanese. Obviously my opinion, I'm sure there are a lot of people on 2chan or somewhere who'd agree with you, but personally they've elicited a lot of chuckles out of me and, again, a lot of it has to do with Japanese wordplay that just doesn't play well at all if you go super literal. They're clever in ways that you can only really be clever about that stuff in Japanese to a degree. Given the TV world setting of the first game, I personally prefer to view them as kind of an extension of that relationship between how characters' Shadows manifest themselves and how the outside world tends to view said characters; they're less ostensibly a reflection on the characters themselves and more a riff of how they might be stereotypically viewed from an ignorant outsider's perspective, or at least one with only a superficial knowledge of what they have going for them. Naturally your mileage will vary in terms of how much their specific semantics of the titles appeal to you and not even I would argue that they're all home runs, but I was at least never under the impression that they're supposed to be deep pieces of commentary on the characters themselves. They're unfounded disses and especially given how much textual space they have to work with, you can only go into so much depth, especially when spatial real estate for text is at a real premium in English.
PS: Atlus just threw up a 720p version of the PQ intro~
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Real talk, like I mentioned before, they have a lot of charm in Japanese. Obviously my opinion, I'm sure there are a lot of people on 2chan or somewhere who'd agree with you, but personally they've elicited a lot of chuckles out of me and, again, a lot of it has to do with Japanese wordplay that just doesn't play well at all if you go super literal. They're clever in ways that you can only really be clever about that stuff in Japanese to a degree. Given the TV world setting of the first game, I personally prefer to view them as kind of an extension of that relationship between how characters' Shadows manifest themselves and how the outside world tends to view said characters; they're less ostensibly a reflection on the characters themselves and more a riff of how they might be stereotypically viewed from an ignorant outsider's perspective, or at least one with only a superficial knowledge of what they have going for them. Naturally your mileage will vary in terms of how much their specific semantics of the titles appeal to you and not even I would argue that they're all home runs, but I was at least never under the impression that they're supposed to be deep pieces of commentary on the characters themselves. They're unfounded disses and especially given how much textual space they have to work with, you can only go into so much depth, especially when spatial real estate for text is at a real premium in English.
PS: Atlus just threw up a 720p version of the PQ intro~
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm going to have to disagree. Agis is awesome but personally I never thought the relationship as romantic. More like two friends that will be together for the rest of their lives.
speaking of romance, with Elizabeths' new quest to bring Minato back and after the antics they had on their dates, I wonder if she is continuing this quest due to her love for him.
Lollipop Dave
Member
I would say so, that's the one piece of romance that I actually believe from P3/P4.
PM'd Aeana about the Ultimax character thing. She basically says that if there's a disagreement, call it to a vote and state the outcome in the OP for new members. I wonder if maybe the solution is what Inorigo said: not mark it for Ultimax but not explicitly link it to Persona 4.
Thoughts?
Maybe it is just something that's lost in translation, which I'd never considered. It makes a lot more sense than them just being there because they're there.
Thoughts?
Well, I don't know about that, but with the English ones, it seemed like something that was meant to be funny and just... wasn't? All I kept thinking about them was 'why are these there at all?'. If they're not funny, clever or relevant, why even bother including them?
Maybe it is just something that's lost in translation, which I'd never considered. It makes a lot more sense than them just being there because they're there.
Lollipop Dave
Member
I think as long as you don't mention
his Persona's name, or hint towards his role in P4
Well, I'd actually consider the fact that
Adachi has a Persona
him
Lollipop Dave
Member
Sure, but a huge hint for what?
Hinting that he will be a party member? Knowing that he has a persona doesn't spoil the story of Persona 4.
You knew
Naoto was female
I know the Adachi situation is a bit more extreme, but if you start picking and choosing it get's a bit complicated.
Assuming that the majority of new players who would get spoiled are playing Golden,
Adachi
murderer spoiler
This is the problem in a nutshell. There's no dancing around this, honestly, and it would cause more of a headache than referring to a character like Naoto in a certain way.
I'm still standing by "If *blank*'s character trailer comes out, all bets are off." I hate spoilers, and I hate spoiling things for people. I also know how many new peeps come here who are playing P4 for the first time. We've had a remake of the game come out, as well as one sequel to it already. This is the game's SECOND sequel, where they're going to be flat out spoiling a major plot point of the original(also needs to be added that they purposely avoided doling this in the game's first sequel). We've also had an anime come out that covered all of the events of the game, and a remake of this anime is coming out before the second sequel hits any shores at home. How long exactly are we going to keep it going?
Lollipop Dave
Member
I still think the best way is to put a warning in the title of the thread. That way new-people are aware from the get go if they might get spoiled, or if they are allowed to post spoilers.
Lollipop Dave
Member
At this point I've lost all interest in what this thread becomes.
As long as it is made perfectly clear what type of thread it is to everyone so events like a few days ago can be prevented.
RockderBanja
Member
If
character trailer does indeed come out Thursday, how will that be handled? I know the name is being marked as spoiler so I'm just wondering.
Adachi's

To deviate from the topic at hand for a second, it looks like Atlus is having a Persona signing session at E3, and from the corner of the poster that Destructoid posted, it looks like it's with someone from Arena.
Any idea who it could be? Just going to go ahead and say that if, by some small miracle, it turned out to be Soejima, I would flip my shit.
EDIT: Wait, they had Doi there last year? Oh man. If it's Soejima. Oh man.
Any idea who it could be? Just going to go ahead and say that if, by some small miracle, it turned out to be Soejima, I would flip my shit.
EDIT: Wait, they had Doi there last year? Oh man. If it's Soejima. Oh man.
I don't really see how, so long as we have it clearly labeled in the title. The onus is on the viewer at that point.
I was thinking in terms of future games, not past ones.
Lollipop Dave
Member
No idea, it could be Atsushi Kitajoh or some key Arcsys staff.
I hope they do a P4D t-shirt, would love another to go with my P4A e3 one.
it's an issue that would become larger with persona 5 looming the horizon. We probably should make the next OT title just a warning about spoilers at that point(past games ok to spoil, P5 = NO) or something.
SPOILER thread status would probably mean the week persona 5 is out, you'd have people marathoning it and coming in and just blowing the thread up. I can understand the concern.
Exactly.
Kitajoh would be cool.
Meguro would be cooler.
Soejima would be coolest.
There will likely be a dedicated spoiler thread for P5 on gaming side, same as there is for any anticipated story driven game.
Regardless, like I said, that doesn't change anything. If you don't want spoilers, then don't read a clearly labeled spoiler thread.
Lollipop Dave
Member
Not to that extreme, but if someone doesn't want to be spoiled I would avoid this thread and the irc completely, it won't happen intentionally but they will still happen.
Clearly labeling the thread as a No Spoiler topic or as a No P5 Spoilers etc is the best way to go.
The rest is down to the incomprehension of the users
Essentially, if this thread is tagged with a spoiler warning, there will be Persona Q, Persona 4 Dancing, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax and Persona 5 spoilers posted without reservation as those games are released in Japan. I imagine that would reduce the participation rate in this thread for those who have no desire to spoil themselves on those games before they get to play it.
Not everyone cares about spoilers the same amount.
Edit: To clarify, I'm with Dave in that I don't really care which way we go with it in terms of being open/tagged spoilers. I just think we should clearly label the thread, then stick to that, with no picking and choosing.
I'd kill for an autograph from Soejima.
names2hard4you
Member
I mentioned this a few pages back, yes. Idk about you guys but I like hanging out around here without the fear of a spoiler ruining things for me. For us, people that have already beaten the games that are out now, it might be a little annoying having to spoil tag everything, but there are so many Persona titles coming in the next few months... Wouldn't you rather make a spoiler thread, and have this one be a hangout/non-spoiler one?
we.are.the.armada
Member
Name: Persona GAF RPG
Engine: Rpgmaker XP/VX
Consoles: PC and Ngage
Release date: TBC
Apologies in advance for the long post
The following images are an example of what a potential PGAF RPG would look like using the RPGMAKER engine.
The portrait pictures used below would be replaced with artwork from all of us in the final game. Backgrounds, items, etc can be implemented extremely quickly as there are already preexisting BG tiles available for almost everything.
Music could be original pieces, or remixes of persona music made by fans.
A friendly reminder that the following screenshots could be done by any one of you within 20-30 minutes using Rpgmaker. The engine really is that easy to use.
PGAF RPG CONCEPT IMAGES
Dantis As The Velvet Room Assistant
Street Background Area
Ridely Informing MC About The Dark Hour
School Area
Each NPC character can be programmed with social link properties, potential sides quests and more. Ideally, each student would represent one of us.
Sophia Shouting At MC
MC Social LInk With NPC
Potential Shadow Battles During The Darkhour
Cutscene images could be original artwork from all of us and look like the following
http://static.zerochan.net/Persona.4%3A.The.Ultimate.In.Mayonaka.Arena.full.1221007.jpg
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/3/33880/2274153-p4a_screens_storymode_02.jpg
If you guys are still up for it, I encourage all of you to purchase the rpgmaker engine using the following link. Its $1 until tomorrow, then the price will shoot back up to $30+
https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly?rpgmaker_weekly&utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=Humble%20Weekly%20Bundle%20RPG%20Maker
Enjoy
This is awesome
Those FFIV:CC sprites are amazing!
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Would love to do some original portraits, but is difficult without not knowing how people want to be, or maybe using avatars, but there are avatars that dont lend much to be rpg characters lol
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY? lol
This is completly amazing.
This is amazing. I should participate in this Persona art week.
Willsmith1991
Neo Member
I prefer the Yukari pairing myself. It's not a knock against Aigis(best P3 "girl") by any means, it's just that summing them up as "being in love" kind of cheapens their relationship imo. What they have is beyond love I think, like they were destined to meet each other or something
I also really dig Elizabeth's relationship with Makoto, seems to be similar to Aigis's what with "The Meaning of Life 101" and all. So I thought Elizabeth's story arc in Arena was awesome.
I still need to watch the P4 anime to see what the cabbage thing is all about. I bet it's as disappointingly simple as him having a scene where he buys some lol.
Also that supposed final character slot has me super intrigued. All I'm going to say is that I hope it's who I think it is, regardless of whatever asspull Atlus has to do to get said character in the game.
Oh.. i stand alone then =(
Yeah, i know Yukari loved MC but i never sensed a good connection between them unlike with Aigis and MC.
I'll have to completely disagree with the motion the Aigis's love isn't romantic...i can't even begin to understand that argument, especially with the Answer, Aigis's P4A arcade quotes and story mode. No disrespect to you ofc
I'll have to completely disagree with the motion the Aigis's love isn't romantic...i can't even begin to understand that argument, especially with the Answer, Aigis's P4A arcade quotes and story mode. No disrespect to you ofc
EDIT: BTW won't be able to repond for a few hours, just on lunch break at work =(
LelouchViBritannia
Member
This is awesome
Those FFIV:CC sprites are amazing!
Thanks man. We want you on the team of artists Amarda. Would you like to join?
Ha, yeah, i think the samething about the avatars.
Once all the teams are set up, we can arrange for everyone to describe their ingame character. If anyone wants to do so now, go for it.
You still staying out of the rpg project Dantis?
Ljrivarola
Banned
I think this shouldn't be a thread open to spoilers. Of course, this is a hard situation since he is a character in a fighting game, but that alone doesn't necessary implies anything else. Spoilers are
, but that shouldn't be mentioned without spoiler tags. Then again, if someone wants to ask about some of his moves in P4AU, I guess we should have to talk about that with spoiler tags?
Like Flux said, there will be spoilers for the other games if we get rid of the spoiler tags, and I don't want to get away from PGAF but at the same time I don't want to be spoiled :/
Now, that being said, there are new scans on Twitter! His versus portrait looks... weird lol
his Persona and his role in the murders
Like Flux said, there will be spoilers for the other games if we get rid of the spoiler tags, and I don't want to get away from PGAF but at the same time I don't want to be spoiled :/
Now, that being said, there are new scans on Twitter! His versus portrait looks... weird lol
I am very against making this a full spoiler thread. Simply because I don't want to be spoiled on any of the future games, even things like PQ and Dancing All Night.
I am. Sorry!
I can't find them. I'll have to look harder.
I am. Sorry!
I can't find them. I'll have to look harder.
Green Mamba
Member
Concerning Aigis and the protagonist in P3,
I'm pretty sure her feelings were romantic, or as close to romantic as she could muster, because I don't think close friends get sexually frustrated.
Lollipop Dave
Member
There was this one time when me and 2 friends went camping....
AHHHH. YOU'RE THE ONE MAKING MY PHONE GO TWEET CRAZY!
Thanks for that btw, looks like your retweet is the thing that set that particular ball rolling. Still rolling btw.
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